SRT-4???? Did i just get my behind handed to me?

**first01SS** · 12-18-2008, 10:35 AM

I think, for me, as it's been said many times: I just need to learn how to drive my car better, and invest in some basic bolt ons. I'm going to spray with this weekend with the few degrees of timing pulled to see how it does on a dyno. Hopefully, once it's tuned, I'll dominate.

**JHayesLS1** · 12-18-2008, 10:58 AM

My old WS6 had LT's, Y-pipe, cat back, 4.10's, lid, and a tune. Even with bolt ons and a tune you will hand him his ass, adding the N20 will make him look like a bitch...post a video when it happens

**Superluminal** · 12-20-2008, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

My old WS6 had LT's, Y-pipe, cat back, 4.10's, lid, and a tune. Even with bolt ons and a tune you will hand him his ass, adding the N20 will make him look like a bitch...post a video when it happens

Like everyone else has stated, now days... a bolt ons LS1 is going to be really fighting for that win against the turbo 4 cylinders. I basic dry shot with bolt ons will definitely get you the win on stock turbo 4 cylinders. The ones with the upgraded turbos and goodies you may have to bring the heads and cam along or go the forced induction route. Remember, you got a nasty motor under that hood, but you're driving a tank.

**Durango** · 12-20-2008, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by squee

Its already been said by someone, but its probably the worst range for a A4, especially a stock one, where as its perfect for him. Try something like from 20 if you have to go from a role.

Mine launches like crazy at 45mph. I'll be honest thought I just bought the car and I don't know if it's stock but I tell you she kicks me back like crazy and goes and she shifts a 6100rpm. At 60 mph it doesn't kick down at all worse speed to launch.

**Superluminal** · 12-21-2008, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Durango

Mine launches like crazy at 45mph. I'll be honest thought I just bought the car and I don't know if it's stock but I tell you she kicks me back like crazy and goes and she shifts a 6100rpm. At 60 mph it doesn't kick down at all worse speed to launch.

Take it to the track and see if it's stock.

**Cronex** · 12-25-2008, 05:58 PM

Definitely start the race from a dig, and that crap about spinning 1 - 3 is probably bullshit. I have a stock A4 Trans Am - with the exception of the cat-back if you really want to call that a big performance mod, my buddy has a modded SRT-4. We've played this game a few times. From a roll sometimes he will take you with all the extra weight you have compared to his car being lighter. From a dig you should smoke him. I'll post up a vid or two of me and him racing later.
...another thing, if your using nitrous this time on him then go from a roll then. It wont matter, you'll kill him. That would be all you'd need.

**Crimson Sin** · 12-27-2008, 02:38 PM

Stall Speed Convertor and External Cooler.
Dyno Tune (and get your shift points and pressures re-worked)
Lid.
Cat-back.
and No more Roll Racing at 60 in an A4.

**Stone** · 12-28-2008, 09:40 AM

I had a pretty reputable Srt-4 before my GTO. I had every bolt on posible and still had the stock turbo and made 291WHP....un-tuned. Tuned i may have picked up 20ish. Thats about as much as you can go on a stock turbo with no Nitrous. My car ran a 13.2@111 on 225/45 KDWs. With some DRs it would have gone mid 12s im sure. Stock motors are good for about 500. The DS Tuner was a pretty good tuner. Alot of people went with them or Apexi. And yea most drivers from a dig would suck. Its all about suspension setup and DRIVER. I was very good from a dig in my Srt-4 on the street. But i learned how to drive it before i went and picked a dig race i couldnt compete with

**67CamaroRSSS** · 12-28-2008, 01:28 PM

How loud can I say this: HIGH STALL TC!

Something around 3400 or more + associated tranny work (cooler, shift kit and reprogramming) will take a min 1/2 sec off your 1/4 mile time and will allow you to smoke the tires from a 30 (faster?) roll.

**first01SS** · 12-28-2008, 01:58 PM

I just text'd this dude again, he claims now he's added a new turbo to his car.. Since he works in retail, and i know this guy fairly well, i know he won't have any further supporting mods. What do you guys think? Before i get embarrassed (again), should i go ahead and invest in something more than a 125 wet shot?

**Stone** · 12-28-2008, 03:34 PM

If hes got a bigger turbo he can be running anuwhere from high 300s to high 400s to the wheels. Most likely running high 300s to low 400s. That would put him trapping low 120 to high teens. Put a 125 wet shot on a stock ls1 that would put you around the same. I say put the shot on it and run him. Because i got a feeling hes either bluffing
9because if hes got a bigger turbo he should have pulled you by alot more than 1 car from a 60 roll...no offense bud) or most likely cant drive it from a 40 roll on street tires making the power he should be making with a bigger turbo

**first01SS** · 12-28-2008, 05:13 PM

He claims it's being installed as we speak. I haven't run him since our last encounter.

**Stone** · 12-28-2008, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by first01SS

He claims it's being installed as we speak. I haven't run him since our last encounter.

If hes buying a kit hes looking at about $4k+.

**wooddaniel** · 12-28-2008, 08:41 PM

Do the 125 shot with a 3500 stall. You will win if you can drive. Unless he sprays as well. Or has some other mods that are crazy. DRs too.

**wooddaniel** · 12-28-2008, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Durango

Mine launches like crazy at 45mph. I'll be honest thought I just bought the car and I don't know if it's stock but I tell you she kicks me back like crazy and goes and she shifts a 6100rpm. At 60 mph it doesn't kick down at all worse speed to launch.

If it does not kick down to second at 60 you probably have 373 gears. Stockers will usually kick to second @ up to 70.

**first01SS** · 12-29-2008, 01:29 AM

he claims to have spent $1400

**Stone** · 12-29-2008, 02:24 AM

He can buy a turbo for $1400 but he would have to buy a header and fuel system to support it. Unless he got his stock one ported. Then he still would only be making about 350ish to the wheels. Sounds to me like hes bluffing

**first01SS** · 12-29-2008, 06:35 AM

Well, that makes me feel leaps and bounds better. I was starting to feel sad about that lovely LS1 sound that i have become so attached to.

Before this guy, i never had any respect for stock 4 cylinder engines. This one makes me wanna do as many bolt-on mods as the ole' pocket book will allow.... I'm also ordering a lid, and an MSD timing twister today so that i can adjust the retard automatically when i use the 125 shot.. I spent the better part of last night completing the wiring for that nitrous kit. I've actually been very surprised that it has taken me so long. There are quite a few connections that have to be made on a progressive controller. How low (RPM) can i start spraying? (and at what %)

**Superluminal** · 12-30-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by first01SS

Well, that makes me feel leaps and bounds better. I was starting to feel sad about that lovely LS1 sound that i have become so attached to.

Before this guy, i never had any respect for stock 4 cylinder engines. This one makes me wanna do as many bolt-on mods as the ole' pocket book will allow.... I'm also ordering a lid, and an MSD timing twister today so that i can adjust the retard automatically when i use the 125 shot.. I spent the better part of last night completing the wiring for that nitrous kit. I've actually been very surprised that it has taken me so long. There are quite a few connections that have to be made on a progressive controller. How low (RPM) can i start spraying? (and at what %)

Really? You must have not of been around. There are many many 4 cylinder turbo street cars running in the 12s or better. Hell, my 240SX with a 4 cylinder turbo runs 10s and traps in the 130s, and yes I drive it on the street along with my LS1 240SX. There are many new cars that would give you a run for your money too. But yeah, start modding your car, some of the best races you will have could be some of those 4 cylinder turbo cars running around, just avoid the normal 4 cylinder cars... as most are a joke.... but not all.

**first01SS** · 12-31-2008, 06:07 AM

Lid ordered today; SLP.. decent? Also, since i'm now running nitrous, any suggestions on a tuner shop in Dallas? i think i want to invest in a good tune so that i can be absolutely safe..

In my little brain, logic doesn't dictate 4 small cylinders making more power than my large, nasty 8... seems like i have a lot to learn!!