I'm a Oil Junkie

**Sarge** · 03-19-2011, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

Ok Sarge, I saw this Rotella T5 Synthetic Oil made by Shell for 16 bucks for 5 qts.

Know anything about this stuff?

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...t5_detail.html

Sure....lots of detergents...good oil no doubt.

**Sarge** · 03-19-2011, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by bryceslu

Whats wrong with the 'E' version? from what I can tell it has an anti drain back and the original doesnt.

Spend 5 minutes of your life and read the links provided.

**bryceslu** · 03-19-2011, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Spend 5 minutes of your life and read the links provided.

Lol I have been now...reading through the 'latest oil filter comparison' thread. and Thank god!

I will be returning the pf61e garbage i bought yesterday and going with something along the lines of a XG depending on what I can find.

**allbaugh_04** · 03-19-2011, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Sure....lots of detergents...good oil no doubt.

How does it compare to mobil 5000 and other synthetics?

**Sarge** · 03-19-2011, 02:13 PM

Well it is SM rated....lets look under the microscope on this Rotella T5 miracle lube

2234 PPM of calcium....calcium is a cleaner/detergent...
23 PPM Boron for your seals......
Phosphorus 995 PPM Anti-Wear
Zinc 1197 PPM Anti Wear

To compare here is Royal Purple 10-30 stuff......
Calcium 1736 PPM
Boron 0
Phosphorus 788 PPM
Zinc 982

Now with all the marketing bullshit put aside and just the lab numbers.....which one looks best?

**Sarge** · 03-19-2011, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by bryceslu

Lol I have been now...reading through the 'latest oil filter comparison' thread. and Thank god!

I will be returning the pf61e garbage i bought yesterday and going with something along the lines of a XG depending on what I can find.

Hell it will be OK for 3K miles friend. Dont throw it away.

**bryceslu** · 03-21-2011, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Hell it will be OK for 3K miles friend. Dont throw it away.

I already returned it and got the XG! only about $6 more so definitly worth it!

**allbaugh_04** · 03-21-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Well it is SM rated....lets look under the microscope on this Rotella T5 miracle lube

2234 PPM of calcium....calcium is a cleaner/detergent...
23 PPM Boron for your seals......
Phosphorus 995 PPM Anti-Wear
Zinc 1197 PPM Anti Wear

To compare here is Royal Purple 10-30 stuff......
Calcium 1736 PPM
Boron 0
Phosphorus 788 PPM
Zinc 982

Now with all the marketing bullshit put aside and just the lab numbers.....which one looks best?

If the higher number is better than the T5 looks better.

Compare it to Amsoil, Mobil 1, and Mobil 5000?

**Sarge** · 03-22-2011, 05:48 AM

I'll save all of us some time here....
These numbers do not necesseraly result in lower wear metals as many additives/base stocks do not show up in VOA's. Only use a VOA as a "starting point" to an oils general conditions.
But to answer you question....
Some of the stoutest VOA's are
Mobil1 High Mileage
Amsoil SSO or XL lines

**korndawg** · 04-06-2011, 07:02 AM

Hey Sarge, since I trust ur opinion on oil more than anyone else's can u make me a recommendation?

My 2001 Camaro SS has 16k miles on it. Only mods done are Lid, ORY, LT and catback. Basically a 'summer only' toy. Right now, its only had Mobil 1 10-30 in it and changed at 3000 miles.

My 2002 Grand Am GT is my daily driver and gets driven alot. I put approx 400 miles on it a week. I've been running Pennzoil Platinum 5-30 in it for the last 25k miles and I use AC Delco filters. I change the oil approx every 5k miles. Car now has 130k miles on it.

Do u think I should swich anything up? Thanks!

**Bearcat** · 04-13-2011, 06:38 AM

I ran across this Google eBook sample... Tribochemistry of lubricating oils, Volume 45

Just thought I would share for those who care.

Hopefully this link will work.
http://books.google.com/books?id=i5n...lation&f=false

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**zmg00camaross** · 04-14-2011, 06:59 PM

Sarge you think me running sso 0w30 is good for alot of heavy abuse? The car now has 80,000 miles and is a street/strip car, m6 launch on slicks at 6k+, see beating on the street regular when its out. Dont drive it often but when I do I am racing. You think there be a better choice at a cheaper cost? Thinking about going with some schaffers in my DD and see how it does with a UOA.

**Firebirdformula99** · 04-15-2011, 08:21 AM

Amsoil

**Bearcat** · 04-16-2011, 06:51 PM

Here's a very informative post from Compsyn.

It explains what goes into making our motor oils.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102152

Like everything in life I need to know the reasons why.

I doesn't matter if it's politics or oil.

**02transamce** · 04-17-2011, 08:35 AM

so,I was in walmart yesterday to get some Mobil clean 5000 and a filter for the Monte Carlo,and they didn't have any,they only had Mobil Super 5w30 premium conventional,has Mobil replaced the clean 5000 with the Super?
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**Bearcat** · 04-17-2011, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by 02transamce

so,I was in walmart yesterday to get some Mobil clean 5000 and a filter for the Monte Carlo,and they didn't have any,they only had Mobil Super 5w30 premium conventional,has Mobil replaced the clean 5000 with the Super?
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Yes it looks that way.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...000_5W-30.aspx

**02transamce** · 04-17-2011, 12:27 PM

thank you for the link,I see they have a new marketing strategy for their conventional oils.btw at walmart last night I noticed a old ass bottle of Quaker State sitting on the shelf next to the Mobil,it still had the old logo and was rated SJ...some fool is going to buy some old oil,lol.
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**Bearcat** · 04-17-2011, 01:07 PM

One thing I've learned about the oil world is that things change fairly fast.

The api started with SA and are now up to SN. What will they call the S ratings when they get passed SZ ?

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