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[Sassy Cassie]

I'm lost. what are you talking about?

CAMP LEJEUNE, N.C. - The Marine Corps formally entered the world of military special operations Friday by establishing a separate command devoted to small-unit tactics and stealthy reconnaissance.

It's work they've done as far back as World War II, but never before as part of the U.S. Special Operations Command. The change means battalions of Marines will be focused on special ops work just as Navy SEALs and Army Green Berets and Rangers are.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made the change official after arriving at Camp Lejeune aboard an Osprey tiltrotor aircraft. He said special ops Marines will help "seek new and innovative ways to take the fight to the enemy."

Demand for highly trained special operations forces has increased as the U.S. war against terrorists continues.

"We face a ruthless enemy that lurks in shadows," Rumsfeld said. "It has become vital the Department of Defense and armed forces arrange ourselves in new and unconventional ways to succeed in meeting the peril of our age."

The Marines plan to establish their first special operations company in May and have the command fully staffed with about 2,500 troops by 2010. The command will recruit corporals, sergeants and officers with reconnaissance experience and language training.

As part of the change, the Marine anti-terrorism brigade headquartered at Lejeune will go out of business and shift some of its troops to the special operations command. The command will have combat battalions on both U.S. coasts, along with support units and schools to teach special operations skills to U.S. and foreign troops.

Units to train foreign military officers will deploy within months, Marine Commandant Gen. Michael Hagee said. A special operations company will deploy with an expeditionary unit aboard ships by the end of the year, other military officials said.

The Tampa, Fla.-based U.S. Special Operations Command will control the Marines' special forces.

Special operations will give the Marines "a role they otherwise would not be able to get, to do counterterrorism," said military analyst John Pike of Washington-based Globalsecurity.org.

"The struggle against evil doers is a growth industry and the Marines want a piece of that," Pike said. "The special operations community is getting a lot larger and they need more people."

[1fastcamarosss11]

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[ZAPFOOL!!]

I meant on all your mods not just that one.

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[MadSeason]

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[MadSeason]

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[1fastcamarosss11]

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[Sassy Cassie]

Elite Marine Unit to Help Fight Terrorism
Force to Be Part of Special Operations

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 2, 2005; A14



Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld yesterday announced creation of a force of about 2,600 highly specialized Marines intended to address a shortage of elite troops available for counterterrorist operations and other missions requiring exceptional skills.

But in a marked departure for the fiercely self-reliant Corps, the new contingent will report not to the Marine leadership but to the multi-service command responsible for other Special Operations troops.

The move follows months of difficult negotiations between the Marines and Special Operations community. For years, the Marine Corps has resisted joining the Army, Navy and Air Force in ceding permanent control of a segment of its forces to Special Operations Command, known as Socom.

Rumsfeld has pushed the Marines to set aside their traditional sense of separateness and help Socom expand the number of troops under its direct management. After rejecting previous proposals that fell short of a full integration of the Marines into Socom, Rumsfeld approved the new structure at a meeting Friday that included Marine Corps Commandant Michael W. Hagee and Army Gen. Bryan D. Brown, the head of Socom.

A senior Marine officer, in an interview yesterday, attributed his service's change of mind to a recognition that the new arrangement could afford a larger role for Marines in U.S. counterterrorism efforts.

"We finally came to the realization that unless we were a full partner in U.S. Special Operations Command, we probably weren't making maximum use of the Marine Corps's capability," said Lt. Gen. Jan C. Huly, deputy Marine commandant for plans, policies and operations. He added that Rumsfeld's interest in the issue "has certainly brought us along."

Under the agreement, the new Marine component will consist of three elements.

The largest element, made up of two battalions and a regimental headquarters, will serve as the operational force. A second element of about 400 Marines will be responsible for support functions and will include intelligence analysts, logistics specialists, dog handlers, interrogators and interpreters. A third element, also about 400 strong, will provide small teams for training foreign militaries.

The bulk of the new force will be based at Camp Lejeune, N.C., and one battalion will be located at Camp Pendleton, Calif. The force will be led initially by Marine Brig. Gen. Dennis J. Hejlik.

Socom was established in 1986 to end the practice of creating and using Special Forces on an ad hoc basis. The command today oversees the organizing, training and equipping of such highly skilled troops as the Army Rangers and Green Berets, the Navy SEALs and the Air Force AC-130 gunship fleet.

By contrast, the Marines have tended to see themselves as a general-purpose force. But they have developed some capacity to conduct special operations, ranging from the emergency evacuation of noncombatants to the stealthy capture of enemy fighters. Teams with these capabilities have typically been included in the Marine Expeditionary Units, or MEUs, that regularly deploy around the world.

The new agreement calls for such teams to be provided in the future by Socom. The Marines will supply Socom with forces that are trained to "Marine standards," and Socom will provide additional training and equipment relevant to special operations.

After a MEU deployment ends, the Marine Special Operations teams will return to Socom, rather than dispersing across the rest of the Marine Corps, which has been the practice. That means many Marines assigned to the new teams will end up spending much of their military careers there.

"We're not going to put individuals into these units and then move them out quickly," Huly said. "We need to get a return on the investment that an individual is going to receive."

Yesterday's announcement represented the most significant breakthrough in a relationship between the Marines and Socom that began changing shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. In November 2001, the Corps agreed to boost liaison officers at Socom. A year later, the Marines lent Socom an 86-man unit known as Detachment 1 that deployed to Iraq in late 2003 and early 2004, working with other Special Operations forces.

Entering talks with Socom last fall about expanding such missions, the Corps had hoped not to give up permanent control of its specialized units and offered instead to continue lending them on an as-needed basis. But Socom pressed for direct management.

Even with the addition of the Marine contingent, Socom says more Special Operations forces will be needed. It received earlier authorization to increase its ranks another 2,300 troops over four years, to 52,000.

"These 2,600 Marines will not answer the total growth requirement of Special Operations Command over the next several years," said Vice Adm. Eric T. Olson, Socom's deputy commander. "But they're an immediate boost that will be employable in the near- and mid-term in important ways."

Rumsfeld has made no secret of his frustration at how long it has taken to negotiate the entry of the Marines into Socom. After a visit to Socom headquarters on Oct. 11, he said the talks had gone "painfully" slowly. "Forever, it's taken," he told troops at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa. "I will be 85 before it's finished, I'm afraid."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110102069.html

[BIG D's SS]

That makes sense now Cassie. How much more money is it? Not being nosey but it is about time they do something.

[BIG D's SS]

SO does that mean that ya'll will be moving or will ya'll stay there in NC?

[Sassy Cassie]

That makes sense now Cassie. How much more money is it? Not being nosey but it is about time they do something.

An extra $300 a month plus multiple of four bonuses.

[Sassy Cassie]

SO does that mean that ya'll will be moving or will ya'll stay there in NC?

The new headquarters is to be based here in NC so I'd say its pretty likely that we'll be here for a while.

[BIG D's SS]

What can I tell ya, the bug bit, now I am addicted

I was like that. I bought a lid and LCA's and then it was on with the mods.

[Sassy Cassie]

We're suppose to get that money back dated to January '06 but I'm not holding my breath.

[gettin sideways]

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[ZAPFOOL!!]

I was like that. I bought a lid and LCA's and then it was on with the mods.

Once I move back to Oklahoma and pick up a daily driver, Im going to send the blower and plenum out for porting

[gettin sideways]

ill have to ask him tomorrow

[BIG D's SS]

An extra $300 a month plus multiple of four bonuses.

That is badass. Multiple 4 bonuses for a E-6 is pretty damn good. How long has Packy Been in? What is he Recon or Force Recon?

[BIG D's SS]

We're suppose to get that money back dated to January '06 but I'm not holding my breath.

It will be nioce if it ever hits, but yeah don't hold your breathe.

[BIG D's SS]

The new headquarters is to be based here in NC so I'd say its pretty likely that we'll be here for a while.

I didn't know if it was gonna be there or FLorida. If that is the case of it being there in NC you will be there till he gets out.

[BIG D's SS]

Once I move back to Oklahoma and pick up a daily driver, Im going to send the blower and plenum out for porting

Just go with a Kenne.