I'm a Oil Junkie

**RedSmokey** · 04-22-2009, 07:22 AM

Hey Sarge, what oil do you think i should run, 5-30 or 10-30? And what brand works best (synthetic)? My car is 2000 z28, has about 85k on the clock, i bought it from the original owner who has said he has always run mobile1. I thought i read somewhere on here (from you) that there is something better than mobile1. Also, i dont know if it matters but i live in sacramento, CA. We can get a little over 100* in the summer, we have been in the 90s this week. The car isnt my daily driver, and will see the track once in a while and the usual weekend driving. Also how often (miles) do you recommend changing the oil?

**Dr.Crash** · 04-22-2009, 07:51 AM

Penzoil Platnum is better than Mobile 1 and i think costs alittle less. Amsoil which i would say is the best, makes a great product, and the prices are very close (prefered customer prices).

**RedSmokey** · 04-22-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

Penzoil Platnum is better than Mobile 1 and i think costs alittle less. Amsoil which i would say is the best, makes a great product, and the prices are very close (prefered customer prices).

Pm me if you want... but where would one find prefered customer prices? And iv never been a huge fan of penzoil, i would definitly rather use amsoil than penzoil. I have also heard good things about schafers i think?

**Dr.Crash** · 04-22-2009, 01:28 PM

pm sent

**RedSmokey** · 04-22-2009, 01:38 PM

Your PM box is full! Clear some out...

**Dr.Crash** · 04-22-2009, 01:41 PM

done

**Sarge** · 04-22-2009, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by lonewolf37

I was not impressed either, but I am glad I heard it from you. Do you think this oil is shearing?

Absolutely as I compared it to recent VOA.

**Sarge** · 04-22-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by nillam1

OK i've been reading here since the beginning for a couple hours now! My head is spinning. Last oil change I used Royal Purple 5W30 with K&N oil filter and added ZMAX! My engine has about 80K, I thought I was doing the best thing until I started reading this thread. What should I be using? I have used ZMAX a couple of times now is this bad or just a waste of money? Before every oil change I flush the engine with 5 L of cheapest oil before I change the filter, is this a good idea? Just wanna do whats best for my baby! 2002 Camaro Z28 Bolt ons Flowmaster catback, Superchips tuned, SLP cold air intake w/filter, ZEX powertune plugs, Taylor wires, 160 T-STAT w/fan control. Thanks!

Use a quality SM rated oil. Synthetic or Conventional reasonable oil change intervals and quality oil/air filter and your motor will last.
If you used Royal Purple and Zmax did you buy them "make my weeiner bigger pills" also?

Just fucking with you man.....LOL....
Off the shelf you will be hard pressed to get better results than with Pennzoil Platinum 10-30 and a AC Delco filter(s). Boutique oils that justify expense is Shaeffers and Amsoil.
By the way Royal Purple didn't make the SM cut so they are not API SM certified.

**Sarge** · 04-22-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by RedSmokey

Hey Sarge, what oil do you think i should run, 5-30 or 10-30? And what brand works best (synthetic)? My car is 2000 z28, has about 85k on the clock, i bought it from the original owner who has said he has always run mobile1. I thought i read somewhere on here (from you) that there is something better than mobile1. Also, i dont know if it matters but i live in sacramento, CA. We can get a little over 100* in the summer, we have been in the 90s this week. The car isnt my daily driver, and will see the track once in a while and the usual weekend driving. Also how often (miles) do you recommend changing the oil?

I know where Sacramento is. You guys got all the homo socialist bitches there....LOL......It is Mobil1 ...Mobile is a town in Alabama....Now that I am finished screwing around.....
Pennzoil Platinum 10-30 will give you better protection and results than Mobil1. The only way to know if your changing your oil at proper intervals is a UOA......get a free kit then pay the $25 bucks and lets have a look.
http://www.blackstone-labs.com/gas_engines.html

**RedSmokey** · 04-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Ahh, thanks Sarge. I will go with a 10-30 Amsoil then. I will get a analysis done after the next oil change or two also.

LOL and thanks for the geography/brand lesson. Yes, sacramento blows asshole, i hate it and this state. Want to go to kentucky or texas. But for now im stuck here.

**Sarge** · 04-22-2009, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by RedSmokey

Ahh, thanks Sarge. I will go with a 10-30 Amsoil then. I will get a analysis done after the next oil change or two also.

LOL and thanks for the geography/brand lesson. Yes, sacramento blows asshole, i hate it and this state. Want to go to kentucky or texas. But for now im stuck here.

I hear ya man. I lived in Cali from 74-77 then from 98-00.....miss In and out Burger though

Yup Amsoil 10-30 is a great choice. Your good to go.

**Dr.Crash** · 04-22-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

I hear ya man. I lived in Cali from 74-77 then from 98-00.....miss In and out Burger though

Yup Amsoil 10-30 is a great choice. Your good to go.

The only reason i still live here

**teamgotoil** · 04-22-2009, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge

Short answer...no Royal Purple is not "better" oil than Mobil 1. However it depends on your viewpoint here...RP uses heavy doses of Phospherous as a additive.....this is good for cleaning etc. Mobil 1 5-30 thins out to a 20 weight after less than 500 miles.....the friction modifiers are superior in Mobil 1 but the add packs are superior in RP (rust/oxidation/engine cleaning agents etc)...so if you look at Used Oil Analysis you see Mobil 1 has better wear results after 5000-/+ Oil Change Intervals but RP provides better long term protection on engine tear down and ring wear......Me...I use Amsoil 0-30 and KN Filters....love you long time baby

I agree Sarge! AMSOIL in my cars...and AMSOIL EA Oil Filters. But, I am an AMSOIL Dealer. I guess I am biased.

**Sarge** · 04-23-2009, 05:49 AM

That's OK. The purpose of all these years of communicating/discussing oil is to educate people in their oil selection and get them to base that decision on facts and not bullshit marketing garbage. Amsoil is a great company and make outstanding products. I have no agenda with any particular brand. I do love Shaeffers Oil.....but am not biased by it when discussing oils. I don't care for a biased opinion but prefer a facts based opinion. I'll drag you into a comparison discussion and we will exercise your oil knowledge.....and mine

**teamgotoil** · 04-23-2009, 05:57 AM

I'll try. I am still alittle new to the business and am still learning about the specs and everything. I am, however, extremely impressed with the results in my vehicle. The customers I have sold to and installed AMSOIL in their vehicles all have given excellent feedback. One customer even noted a 20 degree drop in his water temp immediately after switching. That wasx in a 1960 Ford truck with a modified engine. Anyway, as I said, I am still learning. I started reading this post from the beginning and have already picked up a lot of knowledge from you and the rest of the posts.

**Sarge** · 04-23-2009, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by teamgotoil

I'll try. I am still alittle new to the business and am still learning about the specs and everything. I am, however, extremely impressed with the results in my vehicle. The customers I have sold to and installed AMSOIL in their vehicles all have given excellent feedback. One customer even noted a 20 degree drop in his water temp immediately after switching. That wasx in a 1960 Ford truck with a modified engine. Anyway, as I said, I am still learning. I started reading this post from the beginning and have already picked up a lot of knowledge from you and the rest of the posts.

Hey walk us through the Amsoil oil analysis program. Cost and what all it covers. Is the lab ASO 9000 certified etc. Lay it upon us.

**teamgotoil** · 04-23-2009, 06:22 AM

I will find that info out and get it posted as soon as I can.

**RedSmokey** · 04-23-2009, 07:51 AM

Oh, and sarge, so youve found schaeffers is also up their with amsoil? I found out i know somone who is a dealer and i might be able to get a good deal on that. I was debating between the two before, but wanted to make sure from your analysis that either or both are safe. Thanks for the help. OH, and In N Out is one of the few good things about this foresaken place

**Sarge** · 04-23-2009, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by teamgotoil

I will find that info out and get it posted as soon as I can.

Thanks man. I know the oil analysis is a great tool for determining not only the oil status but the oil change intervals and is a great early warning system for everything from air/fuel trims/tunes to air filtration etc.

**Sarge** · 04-23-2009, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by RedSmokey

Oh, and sarge, so youve found schaeffers is also up their with amsoil? I found out i know somone who is a dealer and i might be able to get a good deal on that. I was debating between the two before, but wanted to make sure from your analysis that either or both are safe. Thanks for the help. OH, and In N Out is one of the few good things about this foresaken place

Hell yes. Shaeffers is (IMHO) the top dog on the block. I pay $4.65 per quart to my door. Mebbe we can work a swap. Burgers for Shaeffers