factory freak bolt on dyno!

**joezee** · 12-24-2006, 06:32 AM

ok, enough patting on the back.....EXPLAIN ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN......please......no really.....pretty please ......DON'T start a thread like this and not expect to explain....come on, i mean 116 for crying out loud is................BBUULLSSH...i couldnt resist, sorry....

**EE1983** · 12-24-2006, 09:28 AM

I thought 370whp-ish on a DJ would be around 116mph traps?

**joezee** · 12-24-2006, 09:44 AM

yes , maybe.......but 116 bolt ons only........so headers and a tune and i'll add SEVEN mph !!!!!!

**joezee** · 12-24-2006, 09:45 AM

116 is like 11's or really low 12's..........explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!...........please.

**EE1983** · 12-24-2006, 09:53 AM

Well he is FULL bolt-on, not JUST headers, tune. I dunno, I think the trap seems legit. A little on the fast side for most but overall seems right. Although, my friends cammed TA went 117mph and he was full-bolt on with some weigh reduction.

**joezee** · 12-29-2006, 08:12 PM

still waiting...........not bashing , but 116......r u full weight?.......what....what have you done that would add SEVEN mph to MY 1/4.....

**s99ta** · 12-29-2006, 08:34 PM

I think your trap speed is BS my car dynoed 405rwhp with cam and bolt ons it is a m6 my trap speed is 116.8 and a 11.91 et. so what is your et

**juiced99ws6** · 12-30-2006, 07:00 PM

no offense bro, the dyno numbers seems legit and all but really you shouldnt have boasted the 116 trap.. thats an EASY 11 second time.

(im on left) this run was made with full bolt ons and spraying 100 shot from the 1/8 mile marker. So you can get a little taste of what a 116 trap would do

**juiced99ws6** · 12-30-2006, 07:02 PM

oh and for more comparison.. my car has never been dynoed but the car on the right is an 05 GTO that put down roughly 370rwhp on a dynojet. granted its heavier and has torque management out the ass but he still only trapped 100...

**Y2KPewterSS** · 12-30-2006, 07:55 PM

No electric water pump on the car from the original post?

**mrr23** · 12-30-2006, 08:04 PM

i went 12.13 @ 116 in my 86TA and dynoed 359 rwhp.

**joezee** · 12-31-2006, 11:11 AM

i don't think anyone doubts his dyno # , after all dynos are great for tuning but vary wildly from one to another...BUT 116 mph with his mods NEEDS more explaining......but he posted a couple times and doesn't say anything , so....I say he got the car with a cam or heads, or both.......
3500lb cars running 116 are making 425-450 factory rated hp......
his car came with 350hp....75-100hp with his mods.....BULL.

**juiced99ws6** · 12-31-2006, 02:40 PM

he just wont give an et... ET and Trap speeds are just as consistant as dynos. Different dynos yield different result and different tracks do as well so unless you are running all the same conditions then times/ dyno numbers cant really compare cars. Only way to compare is to line them up side by side. He could very well have pulled 116 trap but i wanna see his damned time!

**Raoul-Duke** · 01-02-2007, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by 12secSS

ibanez7, you are not alone.

I tuned this car with similar mods as your's, although with cats and on a DynaPack Dyno. If tuned right, some late production F-Bodies are putting down great numbers.

Just got my car tuned...

AAnd thats why i wish i had a ls1....awesome numbers man!

**BLKCLOUD** · 01-02-2007, 02:48 PM

I don't know the person involved, and cannot vouch one way or the other for what he/she is claiming. However...

Dyno's are for tuning. Nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't matter if it is a Mustang Dyno, Dynojet, or Dynosaur - they are a tuning tool. Also, you cannot make a blanket statement that a Mustang dyno reads xxxx HP higher/lower than a dynojet. It is a load-bearing dyno, and will read differently depending upon the inputs by the operator.

116 mph is possible with a bolt-on LS1. Not common, would probably need very good air/track, and some lightening of the car would probably be necessary, but it is not totally unheard of.

You cannot make a blanket statement that "xxx RWHP is needed to run xxx MPH in the 1/4 mile". There are too many other factors to consider, most importantly vehicle weight, and also things like gearing, track, weather, driver skill, etc.

**02blkws6** · 01-02-2007, 09:08 PM

Sorry, but your car is no freak.... Looks to be normal to me!

**whiteghoztt** · 01-12-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by breakparts

ok i will check------THE DYNO GRAPH SAYS FLYWHEEL HP-and i was hella confused.............but dude said thats how his program is setup------I WILL CHECK THE PAU AND POST IT!

It measures at the dyno flywheel. What you see is rwhp.

**99Firehawk** · 02-05-2007, 12:02 AM

Ive got, underdrive pully, ported TB, lid, bellows, predator tune, 3.54 rear, Fidanza alum flywheel, K&N, stock everything else and 2JL amps, 10"sub (+about 45lbs).

I do 111MPH in the 1/4 mile.
.680 ReT
2.28 60ft
13.67 ET

>Cant launch<

How much HP does that equate to?

-->honest post<--

**stevegrizzle** · 02-05-2007, 08:51 AM

Go buy some drag radials, jesus man.

**BLKCLOUD** · 02-05-2007, 01:13 PM

You can get a very general idea of what kind of power you are making based on your 1/4 mile MPH and vehicle weight. Be advised that there are many variables that can change this, including air quality, track condition, track elevation, driver skill, etc, etc. However, the formula below will give you a pretty good guestimate:

HP = (mph/234)^3 * Weight

I don't know your weight, but I'd guess around 3650 lbs with driver. Using that and 111 mph, you come up with the following:

111/234 = .474
.474 ^3 = .1065
.1065 * 3650 = 389 HP.

Note that this is flywheel HP. A typical T56 street car should lose ~50 HP going from the flywheel to the rear wheels, giving you ~339 RWHP.

Originally Posted by 99Firehawk

Ive got, underdrive pully, ported TB, lid, bellows, predator tune, 3.54 rear, Fidanza alum flywheel, K&N, stock everything else and 2JL amps, 10"sub (+about 45lbs).

I do 111MPH in the 1/4 mile.
.680 ReT
2.28 60ft
13.67 ET

>Cant launch<

How much HP does that equate to?

-->honest post<--