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Thread: 2011 GT 5.0....Finally raced one
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03-30-2011, 10:00 AM #41
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Man u guys need to do a little more reading on these cars lol. I'm not a nut swinger for them but I must give credit where it is due.... They ARE 11 sec cars with full bolt ons. The fastest one stock rolled off the showroom floor and clicked off a 12.3 at 112. Multiple people hit low 12's with just a tune and full bolt ons put them around 11.6 at 115-116 they are badass but not the world beaters everyone assumes them to be
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03-30-2011, 11:25 AM #42
Still a very respectable car tho. Cant even compare it to gts from previous years
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03-30-2011, 03:25 PM #43
What redbird is saying here is key. They do trap around 110 in stock form. That's really all you need to know. That trap speed can easily support a bottom 12 second run with enough bite and a good driver. You don't need bolt ons to do it.
That's not a car to take lightly. You'll need at least a lightly modded 4th gen to keep pace, if not more.
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03-30-2011, 08:04 PM #44
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Yes easily 11 sec cars.. this one doesnt even have headers yet just basic exhaust and tune...
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDATLHJtzWY[/ame]
Headers, intake, exhaust, stock suspension
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STOCK WITH DR'S
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Bolt ons eaily can put these things in the solid 11's they arent jokes lol that not to say an ls1 can replicate it but I havent seena stock internal ls1 replicate a 117 trap...
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03-30-2011, 09:32 PM #45
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03-30-2011, 10:27 PM #46
Nice kill, OP. There's no doubt in my mind that you would have kept pulling had you wet faster.
I pulled an auto 11' 5.0 with my lid/cat-back only A4 car on the highway.
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03-30-2011, 10:51 PM #47
F-Body with full bolt ons and stall will yield high 11's also. Some people don't consider a stall a bolt on and some do
Never said they were junk, I gave/give them respect
Before they hit mainstream people were hyping them up beyond belief, all I was saying is that they were hyped too far IMHO┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐
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03-31-2011, 06:16 AM #48
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I def agree they are a little overhyped because I've seen them get beat multiple times but an ls1 car that runs 11's with bolt ons and a stall (which can be considered a bolt on) will not bee trapping 115-118 like these cars do which is just evident of more power and a faster car. With that said I still loove the ls plartform and its cheaper to build.
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03-31-2011, 01:18 PM #49
You would have to do a cam with that combo too if you want to dip into the 11's,,,not exactly a bolt on car at that point in my opinion, once you open the motor up all bets are off.
All the bolt on auto Fbodies I see,,,with gears AND a converter,,,and NOT getting inside the motor at all, with a good tune,,,,generally hit 12.40's to 12.60's at 107-109 mph.
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03-31-2011, 01:19 PM #50
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03-31-2011, 03:55 PM #51
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03-31-2011, 09:00 PM #521993 Z28 M6: K&N Intake, 52mm TB, TB Bypass, No Cats, Exhaust Cutout, Flowmaster Muffler, 3.90 Gears, 160 Thermo, Tune, BMR Springs, Bilstein Shocks, 3 Point SFC,s & MGW Shifter.
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04-01-2011, 02:38 AM #53
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04-01-2011, 05:28 AM #54
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04-01-2011, 06:52 AM #55
We'd have to see what those people consider "bolt ons". I have personally never seen it.
Technically once you crack open the engine, (even the transmission is questionable) then the simple term "bolt on" no longer applies. Even sticking gears in the rearend wouldn't be considered a driveway simple bolt on that anyone can do ,,,which is what the term originally implied. But the term "bolt on" has gotten so blown out of proportion that I really don't put much stock in it anymore. So what ever those guys are doing over on tech probably doesn't fall into this catagory in my book.
Things like exhaust, underdrive pulley, all the free mods, air intake, throttle body, a tune, some drag style wheels, removing weight.....
That's about as far as it goes for the average joe that has a few simple hand tools. I'd like to see an F-body in the 11's with just that... I don't think it'll happen. Every one I've seen (including my own) are stuck in the mid 12's on a good day.
No way I'll dip into the 11's unless I want to dive into the motor for at least a cam minimal,,,then in my opinion it's no longer a bolt on car. Shucks I've even got a converter in it and I feel that's borderline as far as simple bolt ons.
It's not enough to hang with a new stang, that's for sure. It just doesn't MPH as high as the new stangs do,,,plain and simple.Last edited by Firebirdjones; 04-01-2011 at 10:42 AM.
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04-01-2011, 08:44 AM #56
Yea i agree fbj about the bolt on thing, i was reading a magazine for the new camaro and they were saying the best bolt ons... They were sayin heads and cam and alll this then even said a super or turbo charger was a bolt on.... thats rediculous, seriously the term bolt on shouldnt even be used with them anymore if thats what the consider bolt on becuase that means every car out there that has been modded no matter the extent of it is a bolt on car lol.
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04-01-2011, 08:59 AM #57
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04-01-2011, 10:40 AM #58
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04-01-2011, 01:20 PM #59
I've seen a "Full Bolt On" (Stall only thing questionable) with DR and tune run in the 11's
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04-01-2011, 04:38 PM #60
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so have i lol in fact it was 11.88 at 111mph and could be repeated at will with a yank 3600 stall and many autos do it with good tires and da. its not that uncommon here in fl where the da is good in the winter time. however 111 is no where near the 115-118 these things trap which is evidence of a faster car...
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