Played with a LS1 in my 5.0

**95camaroZNC** · 07-13-2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll

Really? Trying to start an argument? Please don't feed TransamWS6.

I have never even hinted the new 5.0 was a better engine then my LS1. But stock it is faster. And when I drove the big 3 (Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang) it was in a BIG way the better car.

Bolt on LS1 = Stock 5.0

No not trying to start a arguement... Just saying. Please dont get defensive over something so small and stupid.

**blackSS01** · 07-13-2010, 04:55 PM

Bye bye guys: Can't believe I'm liking whats coming out of Orion's mouth being a NO fan to my Colts

**0rion** · 07-13-2010, 04:58 PM

My only point is that I find it funny that the stang guys think it's a victory to beat a 12 year old car. I think it's also awesome that GM built a car 12 years ago that's still running with cars coming out today. Name another car maker that can make that claim? Not a lot out there. I'm not talking specialty cars....I'm talking showroom floor base model cars.

**95camaroZNC** · 07-13-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

The 99-01 Cobra was as well. According to the 1999 Road & Track Magazine I have on my desk, a fully loaded SS back in 99' was $27,466 vs. the Cobra's $28,190, fully loaded. Basically in the same price range.

And why the hell havent you traveled over to a mustang forum.........

**0rion** · 07-13-2010, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

Bye bye guys: Can't believe I'm liking whats coming out of Orion's mouth being a NO fan to my Colts

maybe you're wounds are finally starting to heal?? Fortunately you'll have until we meet again next Feb. before we re-open them again.

**flash** · 07-13-2010, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by 0rion

My only point is that I find it funny that the stang guys think it's a victory to beat a 12 year old car. I think it's also awesome that GM built a car 12 years ago that's still running with cars coming out today. Name another car maker that can make that claim? Not a lot out there. I'm not talking specialty cars....I'm talking showroom floor base model cars.

Take a look at the kill section here. There are lots of ls1 guys beating foxbodys you dont find that funny?

**95camaroZNC** · 07-13-2010, 05:06 PM

^you mean foxbodys beating ls1s? Otherwise thats not the same thing. However if thats what your saying im still confused. Stock for stock a fox body against a ls1 is just a waste of gas.

**flash** · 07-13-2010, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

Ran a 12.8 @ 114 mph with full bolt ons, at sea level with 32psi on street tires with half tread with a 2.3 60'. Track prep was decent for what I was running. Haven't ran it yet with H/C, because working out kinks in every part of the car (Ordered wheels but fucking around with tires

) Should be, thats a big "SHOULD" be 11's all day, I'm no pro of a driver but been driving stick since I was 9 years old on my Dad's lap out in the boonies.

EDIT: Can't afford $5 to run, can't afford gas to get out there

The best you have ran is a 12.8@114? With all the smack talking I figured you were down in 9 second range.

**Transamws6** · 07-13-2010, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC

And why the hell havent you traveled over to a mustang forum.........

And you're the one sitting up there saying "Not trying to start an argument......Please don't get defensive over something so small and stupid", look at you?

All I stated was how much the 99-01 Cobra costed compared to the SS of it's time. You seem to be the only one in this thread to have an issue with that?

**ssgtcarroll** · 07-13-2010, 05:09 PM

Sheesh guys come on play nice.

**flash** · 07-13-2010, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by 95camaroZNC

^you mean foxbodys beating ls1s? Otherwise thats not the same thing. However if thats what your saying im still confused. Stock for stock a fox body against a ls1 is just a waste of gas.

Orion says its funny stang guys think its a victory to beat 12 yr old cars.I said plenty of ls1 guys think its a victory to beat foxbodys which were 10 yrs old at the time.

Yes it is a waste of gas I agree 100%.

**0rion** · 07-13-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by flash

Take a look at the kill section here. There are lots of ls1 guys beating foxbodys you dont find that funny?

Actually I do. How many of those foxbody's are stock that people are talking about beating? I would never brag about beating a stock fox body. Hell, I don't brag about beating anyone really. I did race a fox body several years ago here in town. Good close race and the only ground I gained on him was when he would shift until we got up to 3rd gear then I started pulling him. He had a nice lumpy cam and was running skinnies. Nice looking/running car. My mods at the time......stall convertor and headers.

**flash** · 07-13-2010, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by ssgtcarroll

Sheesh guys come on play nice.

you check out the sct tuner yet?They are claiming 32 rwhp and 31 rwtq.

http://www.sctflash.com/

**95camaroZNC** · 07-13-2010, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

And you're the one sitting up there saying "Not trying to start an argument......Please don't get defensive over something so small and stupid", look at you?

All I stated was how much the 99-01 Cobra costed compared to the SS of it's time. You seem to be the only one in this thread to have an issue with that?

http://forums.musclemustangfastfords...ime/index.html

There you go, perfect. What did i say that was bad enough before that to get your man thong twisted?

I talked about racing a guy i know who has a 03/04 and over reved right in front of me driving and almost blew his shit up. Where was that directed at the OP or the situation your currently discussing im confused....

**rajiv1998** · 07-13-2010, 05:24 PM

The new 5.0 is better than the LS1 in almost every way. Not trying to start a flame war so mods do not hold me responsible if others start turning up the heat.

The fact of the matter is that the new stang is faster,more powerfull, and better refined than the LS1. Other than a nasty motor and sleek looks, I dont really see anything that a WS6/SS has over the 5.0? The t-tops leak, the rear end can be blown apart with STOCK power, headlights dont come up sometimes (TA models), window motors going out. Now as far as engine goes, the LS1 engine can see anywhere from a good 40-50 HP increase with full bolt ons and a tune. I dont even think there are many parts out for the 5.0 yet so I cant say anything.

**importhater81** · 07-13-2010, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

The new 5.0 is better than the LS1 in almost every way. Not trying to start a flame war so mods do not hold me responsible if others start turning up the heat.

The fact of the matter is that the new stang is faster,more powerfull, and better refined than the LS1. Other than a nasty motor and sleek looks, I dont really see anything that a WS6/SS has over the 5.0? The t-tops leak, the rear end can be blown apart with STOCK power, headlights dont come up sometimes (TA models), window motors going out. Now as far as engine goes, the LS1 engine can see anywhere from a good 40-50 HP increase with full bolt ons and a tune. I dont even think there are many parts out for the 5.0 yet so I cant say anything.

It should be,considering the Ls1 hasn't been in a production car since 2004.

This whole thread is a joke. "Don't race a stock Ls1 against a 5.0",or WTF ever the title is. How many Ls1's are stock anymore? I'd say few and far between.To all these 5.0 leghumpers on this GM site...when your new 5.0 can run with the current production stock Ls3,Ls7,or the almighty Ls9,maybe one of us old Ls1 owners will give a shit.

**Packy** · 07-13-2010, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

No excuse, but my personnel opinion (Nothing to do with performance) The new Maros are uglier then sin

I think the same thing too. Some look okay but the side view of them is horrible and the fishlike features are still present.

**rajiv1998** · 07-13-2010, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by importhater81

It should be,considering the Ls1 hasn't been in a production car since 2004.

This whole thread is a joke. "Don't race a stock Ls1 against a 5.0",or WTF ever the title is. How many Ls1's are stock anymore? I'd say few and far between.To all these 5.0 leghumpers on this GM site...when your new 5.0 can run with the current production stock Ls3,Ls7,or the almighty Ls9,maybe one of us old Ls1 owners will give a shit.

Your so right. Compare a $30,000 naturally aspirated car to that of one with a superchraged 6.2L with a $100,000 price tag. Thats definitely a good comparison...

I dont think there is another car out there today that cost 30k, makes 400+hp all motor, and is under 5.0L. THATS the whole point of my arguement. We can sit here and talk about how great and superior the new GM cars are over the stang or we can actually talk about cars in the same price range.

**Packy** · 07-13-2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Your so right. Compare a $30,000 naturally aspirated car to that of one with a superchraged 6.2L with a $100,000 price tag. Thats definitely a good comparison...

I dont think there is another car out there today that cost 30k, makes 400+hp all motor, and is under 5.0L. THATS the whole point of my arguement. We can sit here and talk about how great and superior the new GM cars are over the stang or we can actually talk about cars in the same price range.

Or people can just man up and race what they have/prefer to drive. Once you mod it you can throw MSRP and stock numbers out of the equation. So in the end the are all hunk of metal and plastic.

**importhater81** · 07-13-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by rajiv1998

Your so right. Compare a $30,000 naturally aspirated car to that of one with a superchraged 6.2L with a $100,000 price tag. Thats definitely a good comparison...

I dont think there is another car out there today that cost 30k, makes 400+hp all motor, and is under 5.0L. THATS the whole point of my arguement. We can sit here and talk about how great and superior the new GM cars are over the stang or we can actually talk about cars in the same price range.

Just threw the Ls9 in there for shits and grins...Nobody seems to consider that when comparing a 03/04 cobra to Ls1 f-body,what was the excuse back then...oh the ford has less ci's so it needs a s/c to level the playing field.

I could really care less what ford has,if I wanted to know I'd be on a Mustang site. Congrats to ford though it only took them a little over a decade to build a N/A car/engine that will run with a LsX.