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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    If it bugs you so much then just stay the fuck out of my threads and get back to yours, like "Come drink on the Train!" or "whats your favorite beer?".
    Wow, I'm flattered you remembered those. Yes yes yes, nothin' like a good ole' drunken postin'. Others(not you) will agree. Now this is where you say... You have no life other than drinkin and posting on ls1? And i say, . I'm sorry BillyT, I will stay out of your bitching, complaining, gay ass threads. When I make a thread I try and make it not about complaining. Rather, Interesting, Fun, or something i can have a friendly post with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. CarelessAndImprudent
    Anymore=From now on

    You would say, "My verbal skills are not poor anymore."

    Oh, and I have presented this to three english teachers, two previous and one current, and they all agree that the usage is correct. So, that is two doctorates and a high school/college english teacher with 20 years teaching experience. One Dr. got her degree at LSU and the other somewhere on the East coast, so don't even pull the regional bullshit on this one.
    "My verbal skills are NOT poor anymore" IS THE CORRECT USAGE!
    Because it is used in the NEGATIVE.
    It's when it's used in the POSITIVE as in "They are good anymore" that it's that odd regional usage as stated in the THE DICTIONARY.

    an•y•more P Pronunciation Key ( n -môr , -m r )
    adv.
    1.
    a. Any longer; at the present: Do they make this model anymore?
    b. From now on: We promised not to quarrel anymore.

    2. Chiefly Midland U.S. Nowadays.

    Regional Note: In standard American English the word anymore is often found in negative sentences: They don't live here anymore. But anymore is widely used in regional American English in positive sentences with the meaning “nowadays”: “We use a gas stove anymore” (Oklahoma informant in DARE). Its use, which appears to be spreading, is centered in the South Midland and Midwestern states, as well as in the Western states that received settlers from those areas. The earliest recorded examples are from Northern Ireland, where the positive use of anymore still occurs.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Po
    Wow, I'm flattered you remembered those. Yes yes yes, nothin' like a good ole' drunken postin'. Others(not you) will agree. Now this is where you say... You have no life other than drinkin and posting on ls1? And i say, . I'm sorry BillyT, I will stay out of your bitching, complaining, gay ass threads. When I make a thread I try and make it not about complaining. Rather, Interesting, Fun, or something i can have a friendly post with others.
    Good for you. Now go have a beer for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzed
    crappy thread alert
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    Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative <no one can be natural anymore -- May Sarton>, interrogative <do you read much anymore?>, and conditional <if you do that anymore, I'll leave> contexts and in certain positive constructions <the Washingtonian is too sophisticated to believe anymore in solutions -- Russell Baker>. In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech <everybody's cool anymore -- Bill White> <every time we leave the house anymore, I play a game called "Stump the Housebreaker" -- Erma Bombeck>. The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Ok, I'll enrichen myself with these "current" dialects, and when I go on my next job interview I'll be sure to say to the hiring manager...

    "Howdy! I'm fixin to finds me a job and I heard ya'll was hiring. So I figured I'd axe yuz if yer still hiring anymore"

    Then when I find myself unable to find work, can I come live with you?
    That is in direct ignorance of my earlier post where I was saying "the problem here is drawing the line between our language growing with us and the useless misuse of language" I didn't say to act like an idiot when you talk, just grow with the language. Ohhhhh, and don't take offence to the ignorance line, I thought you'd like the good use of the word in it's original meaning, which isn't actually derogatory

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    Here we go.
    Anymore
    In standard English, adverbial anymore can occur in a restricted set of contexts. Principally, it occurs in negative sentences and has the meaning of still. Also, with thesame meaning, anymore can occur in interrogative contexts, conditional contexts andfollowing pseudo-negative elements such as few and only and adversative predicates such as doubt.

    The sentences in are all acceptable in standard English.

    You can’t find good help anymore.
    Do you talk to her anymore?
    If they have them anymore, we’ll buy a couple.
    Only two-income families can afford their own home anymore.
    I doubt he can run that fast anymore.

    In certain varieties of English, however, anymore can occur outside these contexts and in positive, declarative ones, as in.

    Everybody drives a car anymore (Cassidy 1985)
    Cod are scarce anymore (Fee and McAlpine 1997)

    The meaning, however, in these contexts changes; rather than having the sense of still, it now has that of nowadays or lately. DARE gives the geographical distribution in the United States as the whole country, with the least frequency in New England (Cassidy 1985). Labov has a more restricted distribution, placing it in the Midwest and Philadelphia and having it absent in New York as well as New England (Labov 1991). In Canada, the distribution is Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island and pockets of Ontario (Fee and McAlpine 1997). No mention of the usage is made in the national dictionaries of Australia,New Zealand or South Africa. No mention is made in a dictionary of Caribbean English, although there are citations of any in positive contexts (Allsopp 1996). In the Old World, Scottish English has anymore in a positive context (Eitner 1991). The purpose of this paper is to discuss claims made about the origin, the social distribution and the semantics of this usage in North America, using data from the Dialect Topography database of the four project regions completed to date.


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    In the United States, those areas distinguished by positive anymore attach no social implications to the usage (Bryant 1962, Cassidy 1985, Labov 1991). It is found across the socio-economic spectrum, and its use betrays no particular level of education. Beyond these areas, however, the usage does draw notice, and at least some prescriptivists see it as somewhat of a barbarism. As such, the usage may not be seen simply as a regionalism but may bear social significance as well, particularly if used by those outside positive anymore regions. Judging by the response levels of the perceptual question, it is clear that neither the Golden Horseshoe nor the Ottawa Valley are full-fledged positive anymore regions. Its presence, however, is discernable and may be predicated by social factors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    That is in direct ignorance of my earlier post where I was saying "the problem here is drawing the line between our language growing with us and the useless misuse of language" I didn't say to act like an idiot when you talk, just grow with the language. Ohhhhh, and don't take offence to the ignorance line, I thought you'd like the good use of the word in it's original meaning, which isn't actually derogatory
    Wrong again buddy.

    Calling someone ignorant, especially one who is trying to show they do have a knowledge of something, is very much dergoatory.

    If I was posting about handguns as if I know something about them, and then you tell me I am ignorant about them, do you seriously believe that is not offensive?

    ig&#183;no&#183;rant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
    adj.
    Lacking education or knowledge.
    Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
    Unaware or uninformed.
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    exactly, you were responding to one of my posts with an answer that showed obvious ignorance to the other post I made, not being derogatory, it showed a lack of knowledge of what I had previously stated. Ignorance is not a cutdown, stupidity is. I wouldn't call it a cutdown if you said I didn't know about something, but if you told me I saw the information and was too stupid to get it through my head it would be a cutdown,. Get what I'm saying? Cause it's getting late and I'm having trouble getting words to make sentences, so I should get ot of here before it turns into even worse nonsense rambling

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    I think we have different views on ignorance

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    That is in direct ignorance of my earlier post
    Also that's not proper use of the word... "in direct ignorance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    I think we have different views on ignorance
    Well, your view is what you want to believe and mine follows the dictionary definition.

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    no, you think it's an insult and I think it's not. The meaning isn't what we disagree on

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Also that's not proper use of the word... "in direct ignorance".
    You know what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    no, you think it's an insult and I think it's not. The meaning isn't what we disagree on
    No, you're wrong dude. I've heard people parrot the whole "ignorant" isnt an insult bs before. It doesn't HAVE to be, but most often is.

    ig&#183;no&#183;rant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
    adj.
    Lacking education or knowledge.
    Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
    Unaware or uninformed.
    ANYTIME you tell someone they LACK something they'd like to think they have, it's generally insulting.

    1. z_driver1, I want you to know that I think you're ignorant.
    (This is an insult, I am suggesting you lack education or knowledge in general, probably meaning compared to most people)

    2. z_driver1, I hear you talking about the English language as if you are an expert in it, by I find you to be quite ignorant of the topic.
    (Again a very clear insult that needs no explanation)

    3. z_driver1, I saw you talking to Mary, but I think you may be ignorant of her past.
    (THAT is not an insult)

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    #3 was my use, thanks

    I know you will try to argue that, but it was in no way used in a derogatory sense, I should know, I used it. You can aruge that is is most commonly used as an insult, but that is not the intended use originally. The intended use is simply to point out a lack of knowledge on a particular topic etc. Yes yes Billy I know if can be used differently, I know. So, you don't like the new way anymore is used and you think we should stick to old school use. . .let's do it with what ingorant actually means also.

    I'd love to stay and chat, but it's time for bed man. It's been nice taking my turn arguing with you knowing dang well I couldn't get anywhere, lol. It's all good BillyTeeee

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    Quote Originally Posted by onyx_rock
    Yinz guys are funny.
    PITTSBURGH SHOUT OUT! i remmeber you, i talked to you b4 the board crashed. red ws.6 and your girl works at the new mall in the mills right? [for billy] yenz guys wanna get a bucket-a-rocks up-dahn tahn?!

    billy, they are called dialects. look up the word dialects, hoss, and the whole "correct english" will become clear.

    PS. whoever it was: ebonics IS considerd a launguage by literary definations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Go ahead and quote me where I said I expect people to be perfect.
    Good luck.

    Ocassional typo <> Talking like a dumbass full time
    i did not say that you said that. so i dont have to find something to quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D!ck
    if you expect others to be perfect, why do you not expect that of yourself?
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Go ahead and quote me where I said I expect people to be perfect. Good luck.
    Quote Originally Posted by D!ck
    i did not say that you said that. so i dont have to find something to quote.

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