MSN asks "Will anyone mourn Pontiac?"

**shady milkman** · 08-06-2009, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

compared to what??? this isn't the 90's anymore where people just go out and blow through money... thier sales are going to be shit next year because the novelty will wear off...

has it for the mustang ? seems like the retro novelty hasn't for them..so why would it for the camaro

**Spaz** · 08-06-2009, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

has it for the mustang ? seems like the retro novelty hasn't for them..so why would it for the camaro

because ford was being origional with the retro thing... it's almost embarassing to have gm copy thier idea...

**shady milkman** · 08-06-2009, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

compared to what??? this isn't the 90's anymore where people just go out and blow through money... thier sales are going to be shit next year because the novelty will wear off...

happened in the 2000s too ..its not like this recession is going to last forever.. i believe it is priced competitively..and it will continue to sell strong..the car is a good car and a proven performer

**ibanez7** · 08-06-2009, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

Because the new one is a 4000 pound bloated whale. And they shouldn't have gone retro, or atleast not used that designer imo...

GM, pontiac and the GTO could have done well and the new camaro could sell even faster, if:

-GTO return was retro (it would have been released before dodge and fords retro attempt) Plus a new GTO with stacked headlights like the 60s would have sold huge today. Most people dont even know stacked headlights once existed.

-camaro should have been an evolution of our 4th gen, but with chiseled lines in the style of the cts and corvette.

**Spaz** · 08-06-2009, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by ibanez7

GM, pontiac and the GTO could have done well and the new camaro could sell even faster, if:

-GTO return was retro (it would have been released before dodge and fords retro attempt) Plus a new GTO with stacked headlights like the 60s would have sold huge today. Most people dont even know stacked headlights once existed.

-camaro should have been an evolution of our 4th gen, but with chiseled lines in the style of the cts and corvette.

this!!! instead the gto looks like a grand prix to any one who doesn't know about these cars...

the concept design of the camaro was decent looking...

**shady milkman** · 08-06-2009, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

this!!! instead the gto looks like a grand prix to any one who doesn't know about these cars...

the concept design of the camaro was decent looking...

nooo thanks

**Zabo** · 08-06-2009, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by ibanez7

GM, pontiac and the GTO could have done well and the new camaro could sell even faster, if:

-GTO return was retro (it would have been released before dodge and fords retro attempt) Plus a new GTO with stacked headlights like the 60s would have sold huge today. Most people dont even know stacked headlights once existed.

-camaro should have been an evolution of our 4th gen, but with chiseled lines in the style of the cts and corvette.

Originally Posted by Spaz

this!!! instead the gto looks like a grand prix to any one who doesn't know about these cars...

the concept design of the camaro was decent looking...

I've always pondered this.. kind of one of those "would have been nice if.." things. Though on the bright side Pontiac being gone could drive the prices of well maintained and good condition 4th Gen Formulas and T/As.

**Spaz** · 08-06-2009, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

nooo thanks

that looks 10000013450917630416054615601 times better than what they shit out... it was along the lines of the evolution of body style that the camaro had on going... it has some nice curves to it and looks different from the stupid challenger...

**shady milkman** · 08-06-2009, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

that looks 10000013450917630416054615601 times better than what they shit out... it was along the lines of the evolution of body style that the camaro had on going... it has some nice curves to it and looks different from the stupid challenger...

you're crazy ryan! the front of that car looks cartoonish ..belongs on CARS II "rise of the fugly"

**Spaz** · 08-06-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

you're crazy ryan! the front of that car looks cartoonish ..belongs on CARS II "rise of the fugly"

and the crap they came out with belongs on cars III "the clone wars"... looks way better to me and i would have bought one if they looked like that...

**shady milkman** · 08-06-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Spaz

and the crap they came out with belongs on cars III "the clone wars"... looks way better to me and i would have bought one if they looked like that...

well we all have different opinions but imho i think the current 5th gen would see much more then that concept

**02transamce** · 08-06-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

hmm...i think being sold at less then mrsp is pretty good. name other cars that have been priced lower in the rwd performance area..the v6 camaro cane be had for 20k..a 2010 v6 camaro for 20k sounds like it is priced very competitively

no so fast,my friend.montgomery chevy dealership a a v6 camaro with a price tag of $39,000.granted it is loaded rs model,but it is still a v6.and the 2 other v6 camaros they had on the lot were priced at $28,000 and $30,000.they did not have a ss

**02transamce** · 08-06-2009, 05:05 PM

pontiac will definately be missed,by car people.the general public doesn't have any loyalty to car brands like they used to,they buy whatever is the least expensive or the current "car fad"

**wheeliE-maxx** · 08-06-2009, 05:13 PM

I don't know where you can get a 20k v6. A no option v6 is 22,245 and they have a crazy mark up even on them around here. You could get an earlier ls1 z28 or Formula for that much though.

**TransAm11973** · 08-06-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

this!!! instead the gto looks like a grand prix to any one who doesn't know about these cars...

the concept design of the camaro was decent looking...

this style but with the front hood lines straightened along with the grill would have been bad ass

**86 IROC-Z** · 08-06-2009, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by ls1blackbeauty98

i have to agree, i think the camaro "newness" will wear off, i doubt the model will last very long. Considering half the people who drive camaros/firebirds dont like it, and the other half cant afford it.... 30k? for a grocery getter lookin thing..... yea right. you can go buy a nice ass C5 for that much now (or less)

You must be referring to ALL camaros, and that half you speak of (bolded) are third gen owners.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 08-06-2009, 09:07 PM

the whole advertising to gays thing made the new camaro even more dead to me

**krese** · 08-07-2009, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

the whole advertising to gays thing made the new camaro even more dead to me

why? most of them are going to buy the v6 with the rest of the girls

**shady milkman** · 08-07-2009, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by krese

why? most of them are going to buy the v6 with the rest of the girls

and keep the model alive

**shady milkman** · 08-07-2009, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

I don't know where you can get a 20k v6. A no option v6 is 22,245 and they have a crazy mark up even on them around here. You could get an earlier ls1 z28 or Formula for that much though.

im sorry they marked them up soo much..but as you pointed out 22k for a v6 at msrp