did anyone see the pics........

**DriveV8Faster** · 11-23-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

ok, let me be the dick who points out the obvious....little girls should not drive porsches. THANKS DADDY!

She stole it out of the garage after getting pissed at her parents.

tater_salad · 11-23-2006, 08:50 PM

**bodyman5000** · 11-23-2006, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by DriveV8Faster

She stole it out of the garage after getting pissed at her parents.

I guess people should keep their Porsche keys in their pockets or in a safe if they have kids.

Seriously.

**SSee ya** · 11-23-2006, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by bodyman5000

I guess people should keep their Porsche keys in their pockets or in a safe if they have kids.

Seriously.

Amen! oh btw

**astyles** · 11-23-2006, 11:50 PM

they have been taken down

**SSee ya** · 11-24-2006, 11:53 AM

aw fuck

**INMY01TA** · 11-24-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by astyles

they have been taken down

Not the ones in my links on page two.

**astyles** · 11-24-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by INMY01TA

Not the ones in my links on page two.

ahhh cool i want to show my sons

tater_salad · 11-24-2006, 09:21 PM

As a firefighter, I'm glad they took the pics down. That's rough, and should be removed out of respect to the family. I've cut too many people out of cars for that stuff.

**DrMilhouse** · 11-24-2006, 11:03 PM

I agree that it should be taken down, at least during this initial time of mourning. That's rough enough on anyone with a heart, much more so on a family member. If it were someone close to me, I would be devastated to see that and to think of anyone else viewing it.

On the other side of that, it is a reminder that even at 18, we're not invincible. The bad thing is, an 18 year old that sees that, still won't grasp the frailty of life or grasp that tomorrow actually might not be something you see, for that or for some other reason.

I skimmed the article and it did not appear that she had been drinking. I don't think they even suspected alcohol as a factor though some open containers were in the other car.

It's a shame and if she left angry at her parents and they know that, they must be just horrified. It's terrible.

As for the someone saying the parents are responsible for keeping the keys locked up to their porche, get friggin' real. You have to have some trust in your kids, and I'm sure that they did. Kids do dumb things, as is the cause of this whole thing. Maybe they should have done a little better job with raising the kid in general, but locking up the keys to a car is a stupid way to make up for bad parenting.

**SeVeReDiStOrTiOn** · 11-24-2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by DrMilhouse

As for the someone saying the parents are responsible for keeping the keys locked up to their porche, get friggin' real. You have to have some trust in your kids, and I'm sure that they did. Kids do dumb things, as is the cause of this whole thing. Maybe they should have done a little better job with raising the kid in general, but locking up the keys to a car is a stupid way to make up for bad parenting.

I agree 100%, how many people lock their keys up from their teenage kids? The fact that it's a porsche means nothing...she'd be just as dead if she took her dads ford taurus and ran it up to 100mph and lost control. If anything she'd be safer at those speeds in a porsche considering that they handle great.

**djvaly** · 11-24-2006, 11:31 PM

sad story, but yeah, what's a little girl 17 or whatever do with a porche,
as a matter of fact even 17 yrs old boys.. come on.
anybody with less than 3-4 years experience of driving is high risk,
the immaturity and the unexperienced drivers at 17-18 yrs old.
no offense to any kids out here on this site

...
but seriously now, I see often highschool and young 17-19 yrs old kids get killed
racing stangs, eclipse, ta, cobra etc,, on local news channel. it is bad.

**bodyman5000** · 11-25-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by DrMilhouse

As for the someone saying the parents are responsible for keeping the keys locked up to their porche, get friggin' real. You have to have some trust in your kids, and I'm sure that they did. Kids do dumb things, as is the cause of this whole thing. Maybe they should have done a little better job with raising the kid in general, but locking up the keys to a car is a stupid way to make up for bad parenting.

I said that one should lock the keys up for a car like that. I also didn't say they were responsible, I can't prove that I would have kept the keys hidden but I think I would have. In this case, these people aren't the first to have their sports car taken by a child without permission. IF she didn't have permission, I wasn't there.

Kids are kids no matter what kind of parenting job you have done.

By your logic people who have raised their kids properly could have loaded guns all over the house and marijuana on the counter next to the meth and cocaine. Daddy's porn collection could be left on top of the tv and the kids would never watch it.

I realize a car and a gun are two completely different things but both can kill. Luckily this time it was only the person responsible for this mess that got killed. That is not always the case.

tater_salad · 11-25-2006, 10:49 AM

I'm 18, and I do understand the frailty of life. I've cut people out of cars, and I've responded to a accident involving a man and a train. Not pretty. Most people aren't in my shoes, though. I've cut too many bodies out of cars to not understand how frail life really is.

**Spaz** · 11-25-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by tater_salad

I'm 18, and I do understand the frailty of life. I've cut people out of cars, and I've responded to a accident involving a man and a train. Not pretty. Most people aren't in my shoes, though. I've cut too many bodies out of cars to not understand how frail life really is.

My brain pattern set does not have a response for that.
My brain uses AIML to format responses to your inputs, but I don't have one for that.Really you don't think so?Oh. Humans are not always infallible.
The Program E chat robot can follow many things, like our discussion about I've cut too many bodies out of cars to not understand how frail life really is. But I did not get that.

**bodyman5000** · 11-25-2006, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn

I agree 100%, how many people lock their keys up from their teenage kids? The fact that it's a porsche means nothing...she'd be just as dead if she took her dads ford taurus and ran it up to 100mph and lost control. If anything she'd be safer at those speeds in a porsche considering that they handle great.

I don't think they said anything in the article other than that she was going OVER 100 mph. That could be anywhere from 101 to a billion or more.

As for a Taurus, I just happen to have one that is my girlfriend's company car. There is no comparison. I seriously doubt that girl had the skills to drive a Porsche properly. That Porsche probably accelerates from 100 mph like our pos taurus does at 20 mph.

She could have been crying and hit the gas instead of the brakes. In a Taurus you would have five minutes before you reached a hundred. Porsche? NOPE!

Once again, responsible people keep dangerous things from their kids. If you really think about it though, people should keep their keys from their kids for any car. No child should be allowed to storm out of the house in anger and get behind the wheel of a car. It is just that a Porsche is so obviously not something you let an angry teen drive.

tater_salad · 11-25-2006, 10:54 AM

Robots aren't infallible.

**DrMilhouse** · 11-25-2006, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by bodyman5000

By your logic people who have raised their kids properly could have loaded guns all over the house and marijuana on the counter next to the meth and cocaine. Daddy's porn collection could be left on top of the tv and the kids would never watch it.

well, not exactly, but on the flip side of that, part of decent parenting would have to be not having loaded guns all over the house and not having marijuana on the counter next to the meth and cocaine. Dad's porn collection would probably be at least out of sight a bit.

My thinking is that the parents just really don't have a responsibility to have their car keys hidden. How many people here have cars that would smoke the friggen doors off of that porsche? The keys are probably on the counter, on the key rack, in the coat pocket, etc. I'd guess that these people with these cars also would never think of their kids doing that sort of thing, and/or have spent plenty of time and know their kids well enough to have a trust for each other not to need to hide things.

No matter how successful I end up being in life, I think that I would feel myself a complete failure to my kids if I felt I had to hide things from my kids to keep them from taking them.

Obviously everyone has different opinions on that, and that's just mine.

**SSwt00SS** · 11-25-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheKitchenSink

Id imagine the building to be trashed...going 100mph and hitting it...and nothing happened to the building except some cosmetic shit. Weird.

Building Codes. Us Architects have to adhere to them for a reason when designing any building, esp out in the crazy state of CA...

**ARRFormula** · 11-25-2006, 01:59 PM

My station runs a pretty busy part of a major freeway down here in SoCal, we get some nasty ones about once a month or so.

Usually involving young adults, late at night/early morning, drinking and no seat belts. The last 2 fatalities were almost a month to the day apart, and both involved an ejection with major head trauma (ie heads crushed and brain matter showing) The second one was actually in the middle of the day, brain matter scattered all over the freeway in plain view of the hundreds of passer-bys.

I didn't click on the links, I have no interest in seeing that. Call me crazy.