Challenged

**Hurley711** · 06-12-2008, 06:41 AM

You have $13k for play $$$ for the car? Or are you spending your last $13k in the bank on the car??? If it's play $$$ shit go for it, but if you are breaking the bank just to catch your friends mustang.....well I wouldn't recommend that.

**nhraformula** · 06-12-2008, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Kup98ss

My stock A4 98ss ran a 7.98 at it's best.
7.20???????? in a 95 GT??????? I call BS or a lot of money. One or the other.
Do similar mods compared to what he has done, and you will smoke him.
Prepare to drop some searous bank though.

my car runs around 7.7s in the 1/8 mile and i run high 11s in the 1/4.
a stock f-body will not tun 7.9s

**migueelw** · 06-12-2008, 07:14 AM

Thanks a bunch for the breakdown of parts and price (approximate). Is there an advantage of having a motor/nitrous car over a blown one, other than having to refill the nitrous bottle?[/

**shady milkman** · 06-12-2008, 07:26 AM

well nitrous is there when you want it..and not there when you dont want it..FI will always be there

**migueelw** · 06-12-2008, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Hurley711

You have $13k for play $$$ for the car? Or are you spending your last $13k in the bank on the car??? If it's play $$$ shit go for it, but if you are breaking the bank just to catch your friends mustang.....well I wouldn't recommend that.

Thanks for your concern. My rivalry with my friend first started with our motorcycles(more my world)and we both spent a nice amount of money in them, with me coming out on top 90% of the time. Now I've decided to step more into his world with the cars. I know going fast is going to cost, I just don't have any experience in the car world.

**migueelw** · 06-12-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

well nitrous is there when you want it..and not there when you dont want it..FI will always be there

So are you saying FI is better because it's always there?

**nhraformula** · 06-12-2008, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by migueelw

So are you saying FI is better because it's always there?

yup.

**67CamaroRSSS** · 06-12-2008, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by 1SICK02

02's already have ls6 intakes? I just bought an 02 I didn't know that. Are you sure?

Would I lie to you???? All 01 & 02 Ls1 F-bodies had an LS6 intake. Not only does it flow better but it has the PCV removed. That's a quick identifying feature: No tube out the top in the front (and no covered hole) = LS6 intake.

**shady milkman** · 06-12-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS

Would I lie to you???? All 01 & 02 Ls1 F-bodies had an LS6 intake. Not only does it flow better but it has the PCV removed. That's a quick identifying feature: No tube out the top in the front (and no covered hole) = LS6 intake.

thats not pcv....its egr ...all ls1s have pcv

**knappbunch** · 06-12-2008, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

sweet jesus...get a 408 and fi that shit

+1 yea aps or sts get the turbo

**shady milkman** · 06-12-2008, 09:39 AM

APS for turbo ..i have heard nothing but GREAT THINGS!!! and procharger for SC

**67CamaroRSSS** · 06-12-2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

thats not pcv....its egr ...all ls1s have pcv

Now it's my turn

**35thz28camaro** · 06-12-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Midnight02

If you have $13K to spend then you have a BUNCH of wonderful options. Ultimately it will be up to you to determine which setup will work best for your needs.

Here are my thoughts and some (very rough) figures:

1. A4 upgrade + Stall + 12 Bolt rear-end $4,000
2. AFR or TFS Heads and a solid 23x/23x cam (opinions will vary on the specific cam....a custom grind will likely best suite your needs) + tune $3,000
3. Nitrous setup -- A 150 shot should be more than enough! $1,000
4. Supporting Bolt Ons: Full exhaust (LT, Y, catback or duals, etc.), U/D pulley, Lid and filter, CAI, etc. $1,500
5. Suspension mods: SFC's, V6 rear springs (will assist with traction), DS Safety Loop (will be required) $750
6. Tires -- You make the call on this one, but if you're looking for that type of performance and you want the car to be a DD, I'd pick up a second set of rims to mount the slicks on. $750

That puts you around $11K and you should be easily able to crack low 7's in the 1/8 mile. Keep in mind that you may also need additional safety items to meet NHRA requirements(roll cage, etc.).

Alternative paths would include supercharger, turbo, 408 build, etc. There are a bunch of ways to get you where you want to be.

Finally, if your buddy is truly ripping 7.20's in his 1995 Mustang, he has one very impressive build. It would take a good bit of work to get that car to that point, however I have no doubts that it could be accomplished.

dam thats a lot of money. i have about 5k in mods and run low 7's, on motor!

**67CamaroRSSS** · 06-12-2008, 04:04 PM

^ His prices seem to reflect the cost of parts + installation. Not all of us know how to wrench (or in my case don't want to wrench anymore).

**slims00ls1z28** · 06-12-2008, 04:41 PM

For 13K play money you'll be able to burn him to the ground. You can get a 408 stroker short block for around 3500 or, L92 heads and decent cam for kit another 2K, FAST 90/90 1K, stall and built trans and rear like stated earlier for another 4K, tune, and full exhaust and you should be in that ballpark motor alone no power adders, and still be driveable. If his 95 stang runs that fast you should also have less in yours to make it run that fast. His was what mid 14's or higher stock? Yours should be in the mid 13 stock.

**ezwip** · 06-12-2008, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by migueelw

Thanks a bunch for the breakdown of parts and price (approximate). Is there an advantage of having a motor/nitrous car over a blown one, other than having to refill the nitrous bottle?[/

Since this is your buddy and it's a challenge you shouldn't use nitrous unless he does. If he is using nitrous then for about 5k you could get a turbo or supercharger kit plus fuel system upgrades. Put nitrous on that as well and you're going to cream this guy. Also, for 13k you could buy an already built 11 second camaro and just keep the other as a daily.

**1SICK02** · 06-12-2008, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS

Would I lie to you???? All 01 & 02 Ls1 F-bodies had an LS6 intake. Not only does it flow better but it has the PCV removed. That's a quick identifying feature: No tube out the top in the front (and no covered hole) = LS6 intake.

Wow sweet! I had no idea. Thanks for the info!

**Kup98ss** · 06-13-2008, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by Too Fast

Uhh, a 7.98 1/8 is like a 12.5 1/4. Your completely stock car did this??? No stall, nothing, bone stock? No drag slicks? Come on, something doesn't make sense.

I shit you not. I did it twice in Greer South Carolina.
I averaged 8.3

The tranny in the 98 is great. Put the shifter in 2 and it starts out in 1st gear and shifts to second way better. I never went out of second gear.
My times were in the 80mph range when I crossed the line. And my tack. was right at red line.
My 02 Ws6, when you put it in that second spot it just starts in second gear. It doesn't do the shifting like my 98ss did.

So your estimate of 12.5 is off because in the 1/4 I would have to put my car in drive and not be able to use the 2 spot on the shifter.

My 02 A4 Trans am feels slower than my 98ss. Maybe my car was a freak or maybe I just used every thing correctly.

Remember, I only did that time twice it was not all of the time as well.

Oh and I said stock but it did have a flowmaster cat-back on it. but what is that 10hp at the most.

**Kup98ss** · 06-13-2008, 05:50 AM

Sorry about the long post, but I feel I have to stick up for myself since I'm not the type of person to BS.

What do I have to gain by lying to a bunch of car people who go to the track all of the time.