Ok You've convinced me, no LS1!!! Now I want Turbo or Twin Turbo

**Black34v6** · 11-17-2005, 08:50 AM

500rwhp != 500hp.

500hp = hp @ the crankshaft, or what the engine is capable of doing. Rwhp is hp that has gone thru all of the drivetrain and lost some of its kick. dont compare the two, it makes for bad examples.

**woodymaro** · 11-17-2005, 06:12 PM

7camaro7 is your camaro your daily driver? If it is your daily driver what are you going to do when it rains? WATER + FORCED INDUCTION = HYDROLOCKED MOTOR. Just something to think about.

**7camaro7** · 11-17-2005, 10:32 PM

Yes it is, but damn, isn't there some kind of valve that lets water out? I mean that's what ram air vehicles like SS and T/A do isn't it? I know their not forced induction as much as turbo but what do you think?

**Black34v6** · 11-17-2005, 11:46 PM

um. ya. there is a reason they put an AIR FILTER on the intake. this keeps out bad crap, like bees, and rocks, and WATER.

**7camaro7** · 11-18-2005, 05:58 AM

I wasn't sure if the filter kept water out or not. I do know that the turbo I want does have a k&n filter on it

**Black34v6** · 11-18-2005, 02:17 PM

yea that comment wasnt directed at you. most people who own f-bodies get the idea that an air filter also keeps water out. if you want a better way of doing it, get a K&N Air filter (oiled filter) the oil will help repel water droplets. but honestly unless you go wading in a pool you are fine.

your motor wont get hydrolocked from a few drops either -- even if it gets in the engine, has to be a lot of water. i used to have a 89 mazda mx6, and it got a head gasket leak. enough that when i took the spark plug out of the engine (#3) water POURED out (Without the engine cranking) . now if that much water doesnt cause hydrolock (the engine ran even with all that water..just burnt it.) i dont think a few drops would.

**7camaro7** · 11-18-2005, 09:49 PM

yea, thanks man... I still thought about it because I don't want to be looking sad with a Camaro turbo'ed but not working because it rained yesterday

**dreaded_hope** · 11-19-2005, 12:05 PM

I read a review out of HPP on the STS kit you're interested in and they reported they drove it in the rain and hadn't had a single problem.

**7camaro7** · 11-19-2005, 02:44 PM

Kick Ass

**woodymaro** · 11-19-2005, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Black34v6

um. ya. there is a reason they put an AIR FILTER on the intake. this keeps out bad crap, like bees, and rocks, and WATER.

That is funny, I hope your not serious. Lets do any experiment, take a shop vacuum and an air filter and place it in front of a water sprinkler and see what you thing about that outcome. P.S. a shop vac doesn't even come close to creating as much vacuum or boost as the turbo system your thinking about puchasing. I PERSONALLY know two guys that had turbos on their cars and both of their motors hydrolocked when they drove in the rain. One was a 300zx and the other was a 99 SS camaro. The guy in the 300zx it happened to him twice.

just giving you the heads up, but do what you want.

**7camaro7** · 11-20-2005, 09:49 AM

if I have to, I'll make a custom sheild to keep stuff like that away.

**wakesk8te** · 12-05-2005, 01:04 PM

intense-racing.com

they have a 9 sec 3800 single T72 turbo with around 800 whp

**wakesk8te** · 12-05-2005, 01:07 PM

I just don't know how the f-bodys tranny will hold up with that kinda power...

there's also a twin turbo L67 3800.. zzperformance.com sponsors that car, it runs around a 9.7 after one month of building the car..

**wakesk8te** · 12-05-2005, 01:08 PM

so twin turbo would definatly have plenty of HP potential..

**Tobynine9** · 12-05-2005, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by 7camaro7

The good thing about these guys is they told me that they finance

That means I could be

in no time

I'd rather not go the finance route because I'd be paying extra for my lack of patience.

Financing performance mods would be about as intelligent as using a HELOC to go on vacation. Don't put your credit on the line for something you're likely to blow up when you drive it too hard or get smashed when a soccer mom's SUV runs a red light. Insurance certainly isn't going to pay you for your mods.

**Black34v6** · 12-05-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by woodymaro

That is funny, I hope your not serious. Lets do any experiment, take a shop vacuum and an air filter and place it in front of a water sprinkler and see what you thing about that outcome. P.S. a shop vac doesn't even come close to creating as much vacuum or boost as the turbo system your thinking about puchasing. I PERSONALLY know two guys that had turbos on their cars and both of their motors hydrolocked when they drove in the rain. One was a 300zx and the other was a 99 SS camaro. The guy in the 300zx it happened to him twice.

just giving you the heads up, but do what you want.

yea. im not even gonna bother replying to this. other than the fact that i would really question your friends about their cars cause i know several people who have forced induction setups, who have drove in the rain (even in texas rain) and never hydrolocked their motor...and have a regular filter on it...so why did your friends have that problem? probably cause they were dumb enough to try to drive thru a lake (foot deep puddle) while it was raining. i have never heard of rain hydrolocking a motor just from the drops falling out of the sky. even in a downpour.

and from this point on, no, i really dont care what you have to say. you've already proven your ignorance and stupidity, i dont need anymore examples.

**12secondv6** · 12-05-2005, 03:47 PM

This post has gotten slightly silly.

Many power adder people drive cars in the rain with NO problems!

Shitty systems may cause issues.... driver error may cause issues.... driving through a lake will cause issues.

**7camaro7** · 12-05-2005, 11:52 PM

I promise not to drive through a lake

Also I know that every one says there are turbo v6 fbodies out there and there are no time slips, but if they're producing the power, they would be getting the good times at the track, right?

**12secondv6** · 12-06-2005, 11:14 AM

No.... you can make all the power in the world and have crappy times.

1) Bad Driver
2) Bad Driver
3) Bad Driver
4) not 1/4 mile friendly drag suspension

If you can't hook.... then ET's won't be that great. Look at mph though

**7camaro7** · 12-06-2005, 06:43 PM

I mean anything is better than 15sec+ in the 1/4th! It seams like some people just don't put up their times

I really don't get it. I'd really like to know how much faster their cars are before I spend that kind of money on a turbo.

Oh, and I've got the driver mod pretty good here

I do nicely against stang gt's without much. I have the stock lsd and 3.42's and a twitchy foot that loves to stomp the gas pedal

I'm no joke at a stop light

I'd still love to have that turbo though.

Actually, since an engine swap and a turbo is still pretty expensive, I may bite the bullet and get an engine swap when I graduate(about 2more yrs). I'd love for my Camaro to be much faster. I may end up getting nitrous in the mean time though. I can do that plus work on making my suspension better. I want my Camaro on rails! When I'm done with it I want it to be a rollercoaster on rubber!