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    The pento always wins, oh wait nm were talking about mustangs haha, boy I cant wait to get home get everything done to my car and run into a termi. If the all motor doesnt get him the spray will!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6 View Post
    Ok I think it just comes down to this. If you're worried about getting beat by a mustang then MOD YOUR DAMN LS1. These cars have been out since '98 so if you are looking to race then you've had more than enough time to mod the hell out of it if you're worried about loosing to anything really.

    I have a D1SC procharger going in this spring. Whats your excuse?
    Lol, whats your excuse? How about im paying down on my house instead of buying a S/C? How about paying for a year of college. There are tons of REASONS not to buy a supercharger and only 1 to buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    i dont think the actual weight numbers are out yet
    http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf


    Sorry, I was a bit off on weight, but those are just estimations. it was officially announced that the block itself weights only 10lbs more than the 4.6 that's leaving. The car will have a weight increase, but not so much to make an ls1 even with it. Face it guys, ford finally manufactured a mustang(non-cobra) that will kill the ls1(stock for stock), albeit the ls1 is approximately 12 years older than it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Lol, whats your excuse? How about im paying down on my house instead of buying a S/C? How about paying for a year of college. There are tons of REASONS not to buy a supercharger and only 1 to buy one.
    to cold to install right now I would guess, and for the college thing boy im glad I joined the army haha. And I have 2 tours to go before I get full benefits for my post 9/11 GI Bill lol, could be worse tho!!! ok time for a smart a** comment, well oh yea why are you spending money on college when you can spend it on your car who needs college anyways with this economy it wont do nothing but make you look like a broke azz smart person haha!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawk2000 View Post
    to cold to install right now I would guess, and for the college thing boy im glad I joined the army haha. And I have 2 tours to go before I get full benefits for my post 9/11 GI Bill lol, could be worse tho!!! ok time for a smart a** comment, well oh yea why are you spending money on college when you can spend it on your car who needs college anyways with this economy it wont do nothing but make you look like a broke azz smart person haha!!!
    Depends on what you do, in this economy there are soo many people out of work becasue soo many people can do the same job, waiting line upon waiting line. You go to school get a job that requires you to do so and your job security is much much greater. I didnt go to college but i have friends who did and make me wish i did. 23 year olds making 80-100k a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetos View Post
    http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf


    Sorry, I was a bit off on weight, but those are just estimations. it was officially announced that the block itself weights only 10lbs more than the 4.6 that's leaving. The car will have a weight increase, but not so much to make an ls1 even with it. Face it guys, ford finally manufactured a mustang(non-cobra) that will kill the ls1(stock for stock), albeit the ls1 is approximately 12 years older than it.
    the new stang should take even a good ls1--- and if it does it'll probably take the new camaro too. but rwhp numbers remain to be seen yet, and at approx 3700 pounds who knows how it'll run? probably have a mag time of 13 flat is my guess

    i cant wait to run one

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammed goat View Post
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    *heads, LTs, F.A.S.T. 92/TB*
    Exactly dude!!

    I'm just saying that these cars can hold their own after 11 years. Theres only a pant load of potential on top of that if you can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Not really, you cant say its not fair that ford gave the car 32valves, forged internals and a blower, you should say damn you GM for not.

    And your comparing a 95 viper to a 2009 zr1 and a 1998-2002 f-body to a 2003 cobra?
    14 years of difference compared to 1-5 years of difference? 2002 trans am is almost the exact same car as a 1998.

    And the last comment was a gt500 reference. They are the stang with good power but cant hook for shit.
    Yeah, the GT500 reviews made me cringe, esp the one video i saw that showed it wheel hopping like a mother. And I wouldnt assume the GT would be any better.

    I was just saying older technology vs newer technology. 95 viper is still a 450 hp beast, but its not quite as refined as the ZR1

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    Oh and the GT500KR can't hook either. Sh1tty tires FTL.

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    If I were a betting man...I would probably put my money on the newer of the two...at least in this situation.

    Both cars are new?? LS1 car likely wins.

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    T/A's beat everything on the road, we all know that. why are these questions even asked? I don't get it. perhaps a better question would be what if a T/A raced the space shuttle to earths outer most atmosphere which would win?

    A: the T/A, cuz they are the fastest thing in the galaxy

    Nuff Said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    03/04 Cobra ring a bell to you?

    its all about stock vr stock stock ls1 v stock mustang ls1 wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkgoblin49 View Post
    its all about stock vr stock stock ls1 v stock mustang ls1 wins
    cobra is a stock mustang....

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    getting tired of copypasting this

    2010 stock GT: 315hp 3533lbs

    1998-2002 Z28 mild mods(if any) 350hp <3500lbs

    torque aside (which the camaro obviously has more of with 1.1 more liters) we still win hp:weight ratios, unless hes small and your a fat ass

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    and cobras are not mustangs

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    getting tired of copypasting this

    2010 stock GT: 315hp 3533lbs

    1998-2002 Z28 mild mods(if any) 350hp <3500lbs

    torque aside (which the camaro obviously has more of with 1.1 more liters) we still win hp:weight ratios, unless hes small and your a fat ass
    Yea, an LS1 will usually take an s197(05+ mustangs)

    Although, this will change with the 2011 mustang... were gonna be on the chasing end when those come out

    Also, I would consider the cobra a mustang, but I'm sure a lot of people will argue on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetos View Post
    Yea, an LS1 will usually take an s197(05+ mustangs)

    Although, this will change with the 2011 mustang... were gonna be on the chasing end when those come out

    Also, I would consider the cobra a mustang, but I'm sure a lot of people will argue on this.
    A cobra is a mustang, anyone who would argue that is a fool. A cobra was a mustang offered by ford. Its a mustang cobra thats it, end of story. No if ands or buts

    Ford owns SVT, SVT is the performance division, a SVT focus is still a focus, a SVT raptor is still badged ford f-150 SVT raptor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetos View Post
    cobra is a stock mustang....
    Stock for stock, an LS1 gets CRUSHED by a stock Cobra.

    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    and cobras are not mustangs
    Cobras are mustangs

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    A cobra is a mustang, anyone who would argue that is a fool. A cobra was a mustang offered by ford. Its a mustang cobra thats it, end of story. No if ands or buts

    Ford owns SVT, SVT is the performance division, a SVT focus is still a focus, a SVT raptor is still badged ford f-150 SVT raptor
    Correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Stock for stock, an LS1 gets CRUSHED by a stock Cobra.
    I know it does..

    What I meant to say by "Cobras are stock mustangs" is that a cobra is a mustang
















    I wanted a terminator when looking for my ls1 but they were out of my price range...

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