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09-08-2005, 08:42 AM #21
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09-08-2005, 08:48 AM #22Senior Member
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hey! that looks like my display!!
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09-08-2005, 08:49 AM #23I dont believe so
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09-08-2005, 08:52 AM #24Blown, Stroked, & Sprayed


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Originally Posted by ninobrn99
I didn't know you spun your engine to 6500
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09-08-2005, 08:52 AM #25Blown, Stroked, & Sprayed


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Thats one of the reasons I like EFI.
Originally Posted by foff667
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09-08-2005, 08:55 AM #26Senior Member
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sure i have....once or twice
Hey foff ( i forgot your name..sorry) any word when 2.0 is supposed to release?
and i dont think 6441 constitutes a 6500 run
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09-08-2005, 08:58 AM #27Blown, Stroked, & Sprayed


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Well, if you look carefully. My max RPM was 6630
Originally Posted by ninobrn99
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09-08-2005, 09:22 AM #28Senior Member
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ill be the bigger man and .."walk" away from this debate
(from scary movie 2) hahaaha
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09-08-2005, 09:34 AM #29Blown, Stroked, & Sprayed


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09-08-2005, 09:46 AM #30Junior Member
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I dont understand why people say hp is anywhere close to what efilive is. Efilive is Alot farther in depth than hp is. Anything that hp does Efilive does better. Hp2 isnt even released to the public yet so compairing it to anything is not even a valid fight. Even though, there isnt much in hp2 that isnt Already in efilive.
If you look at editable tables, Efilive has over 700 now where as hp is less than 500.
Efilive has updates about once every month where as hp has one maybe a year?
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09-08-2005, 09:47 AM #31I didnt say 2.0 doesnt...I said 1.7...2.0 will be out shortly from what I understand from what I can see its pretty much done...anything they are touching up now is icing on the cake.
Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
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09-08-2005, 09:59 AM #32Blown, Stroked, & Sprayed


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Ahh, you meant using EFI as my tuner instead of HPTuners.
Originally Posted by foff667
Well since I already have HPTuners for all years for F-Bodies. No reason to change. And when do tuners use every single table??
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09-08-2005, 10:26 AM #33huh ya lost me...my point was 2.0 has alot of advances...it might be time to sell your efi live cable & have some cash in pocket...efi lives main advantages over hpt were free updates & the scanner...hptuners has made alot of strides with the scanner & made updates free for new users as well as a lot of old users dating back to people who made their purchase in oct of last year. This is a quick screenshot with a hpl file i found on the net...the new scanner allows 48+ bytes of data to be taken, they've enhanced how many pids & sensors you can check...they have calcs in there for many things pre configured as well as a bunch you can configure for your own specific needs...Personally I dont think ive used the gauges in about a year but you can take a look at a quickie i put together
Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
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09-08-2005, 10:28 AM #34darn hptuners doesnt come with the cool laptop tray...sure seems like the scanner is right on par though
Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
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09-08-2005, 10:33 AM #35I havent edited more then maybe 20 or 30 tables tops for most people...so 700 vs 500 doesnt matter to me...i've gotten updates about once every month to two months with hptuners
Originally Posted by wait4me
as far as the difference between 2.0 vs. the latest efi live is I can say they are now very comparible making it a user decision now. And even black02ss's pdf comparison shows that hptuners offers more for less and he owns efi live
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09-08-2005, 10:44 AM #36oh also are you still using hpt for v6 tuning? I had sent a few people your way..hopefully you were able to help them.
Originally Posted by wait4me
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Nah, i pretty much gave up on tuning the v6 stuff over the internet from that site. I only Do them locally and in person. LOL,, Those dhp supporters where making me mad and annoyed.. Too many brainwashed people over there.
Only dhp can make custom tunes according to them and the 3 years that they have been around makes the 1.0 tunes Superior to anything else " ALL the Testing they did and research. lol " and if you use another persons tunes the vehicle other than dhps, you will blow up.. LOL,, I tune 30 peoples computers a day, i dont need all the bull crap from those guys over on that other forum..
You know what i mean?
ive tuned over 6000 cars and trucks now, And well, no failures yet. and 5 years later...
I have figured out how to use ida pro and find all the tables needed and to set up checksums ect, so when i do have something that needs done, i just do it all with a hex editor and a spreadsheet i have set up so i have all my tables figured out that I needed, and i can tune them much faster this way, I think it is how dhp did it when they started, and i am finding a bunch more tables than what hp had at the time of me selling my stuff, 1.7 i think was the version...
I sold all my hp stuff a long time ago. Im very happy with efilive, and have never needed to go back to any other tuning software. The new operating systems and extras that they give are more than worth the extra money.
Thanks Foff667, I do appriciate all the help you give me on the forums. If you ever need anything, just ask, Jes
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09-08-2005, 03:59 PM #38I've always respected what you do for the tuning community & your prices really cant be beat. I know efilive offers some very good stuff but the guys at hp have treated me pretty fair thus far and with all the improvements ive seen in 2.0 theres really no need to switch...having the custom OS's are great though...thats one thing id really like to see but they seems stuck in there way at this point...at $300 a pop or whatever it is for the 2 bar theres really no one that would want to pay that on top of what I already charge for tuning...at that point theyd rather go to a cartek or what have you.
Originally Posted by wait4me
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09-09-2005, 12:48 PM #39
thanks for the info guys, i just went ahead to the local speed shop and had them tune it, im not very computer literate!!!
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09-10-2005, 12:17 PM #40We'll be back...
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What did that local speed shop charge you for tuning? Just wondering, as I've never had anyone but me tune my engines. Too bad you're not computer literate, you could do some nice experimenting and really tweek that baby.
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