So I'm about to finish my degree and...

**86 IROC-Z** · 05-14-2009, 12:50 PM

An A.S. is what you get when you want to look good when applying to jobs that require only a HS diploma.

**Tonik** · 05-14-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

It is when its 100% out of pocket..

When you get your Bachelors you should be able to net a decent job that can pay for your Masters.

Any monkey can get an associates
Most people can get a bachelors
Few people go that extra mile for their masters

While a higher degree does not always show a higher intelligence or a greater ability to lead in a business situation a higher degree DOES show your aptitude to succeed and obtain your goals.

**GULLETT17** · 05-14-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

Na my A.S. is in Building Construction it only transfers to UF or UNF and I can't afford to move away and go to school. Plus a Bachelors in Applied Sciences is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

I have my bachelors in construction management. . I believe its considered technology and applied sciences

. . . . To be an estimator, project planner, or project manager you have to have the 4 year degree, at least for every job opening I came across. Just having a bachelors can get you a job, no matter what its in.

**GULLETT17** · 05-14-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Tonik

When you get your Bachelors you should be able to net a decent job that can pay for your Masters.

Any monkey can get an associates
Most people can get a bachelors
Few people go that extra mile for their masters

While a higher degree does not always show a higher intelligence or a greater ability to lead in a business situation a higher degree DOES show your aptitude to succeed and obtain your goals.

I agree

I want to get my masters soon.

**86 IROC-Z** · 05-14-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

I can't afford to move away and go to school.

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

It is when its 100% out of pocket..

You've probably heard this before, and I'm sure many will disagree, but education is the best investment you can make. I highly suggest it. That's just what I would do though.

If not, hopefully you'll be content with making 60k a year.

**86 IROC-Z** · 05-14-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tonik

When you get your Bachelors you should be able to net a decent job that can pay for your Masters.

Any monkey can get an associates
Most people can get a bachelors
Few people go that extra mile for their masters

While a higher degree does not always show a higher intelligence or a greater ability to lead in a business situation a higher degree DOES show your aptitude to succeed and obtain your goals.

I can't agree more with this.

**310stanger** · 05-14-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

You've probably heard this before, and I'm sure many will disagree, but education is the best investment you can make. I highly suggest it. That's just what I would do though.

If not, hopefully you'll be content with making 60k a year.

dude i got news for ya, if you can make even 60k these days you are doing alright. The people that are making 100k and up are doing really well. I'd love to be making 60k right now

**Zboner** · 05-14-2009, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by GULLETT17

I have my bachelors in construction management. . I believe its considered technology and applied sciences

. . . . To be an estimator, project planner, or project manager you have to have the 4 year degree, at least for every job opening I came across. Just having a bachelors can get you a job, no matter what its in.

im an estimator, energy conservation

pays good but its about to bust open, just 2 years in college

**count of monte carlo** · 05-14-2009, 02:18 PM

don't worry a BA is worthless too... I got mine in Decemeber... No one wants to hire me and I even have experience.

**Smittro** · 05-14-2009, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Now I'm not telling people to not pursue higher education/college but make sure that it really is condusive and necessary for the field you go into. This guy only started working out while he was in college and he's only 27, and whoever taught him, taught him wrong, but in the midst of this he got appointed fitness director and all he does is overanalyze EVERYTHING and overcomplicate everything to the point where its ridiculous.

Oh definely, if folks wanna go to college hell go for it. My wife has two degrees from Penn State. I however dont have any degree and own a family business. Proof that one can use their hands and brain without college to succeed in life. HOWEVER, this is getting harder and harder these days. More and more we are seeing college kids getting out of school with less common sence and over all "know how" than God gave an earthworm. Only having "book smarts" that most times does'nt help with and usually does'nt apply to everyday life situations. But yeah nothing wrong with learning. Hell I'm gettin old and I'm still learning. Never hurts to have a good foot in the door in a particular field or fields.

**Smkn_TA** · 05-14-2009, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

An A.S. is what you get when you want to look good when applying to jobs that require only a HS diploma.

My friend got his A.S. to get hired as a grunt at a very exclusive factory. He got in over people who had 15 years at ONE place. He had 0 experience in a factory what so ever, and started out making 18 an hour. An opening came up in the factory, he bidded on it, his degree got him the slot over people that had been there WAY longer than him. Last I talked to him he was making 24 an hour controlling mixtures sitting in an office.

So, hell yeah, A.S. is GREAT for HS diploma jobs.

Me, I am going engineer =)

**grouch0jr** · 05-14-2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

..it turns out A.S. degree's are completely worthless everywhere. 2 classes away from it and I get my resume back from employers stating I need a bachelors to even qualify for a position. So there was two years pissed away, along with the money. So for anyone out there pursuing your A.S. might want to think twice.

i dont feel like reading the entire thread, so this has probably already been said,

but an associates degree is a good stepping stone to a bachelors anywhere

**gd1996** · 05-14-2009, 03:26 PM

I got my associates in computer networking and it was worthless... I could have got all 3 jobs I had without it. And on top of that everything you leanred was useless as they trained you anyways.

9 years later I'm not even in the computer field, but at least I can say I have a college education. I make 3x's as much doing something I knew how to do before college lol.

Guess ya live and learn! Most people I know without an education make as much or more than people I know with a degree.

**KahanaReef** · 05-14-2009, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by JHayesLS1

I was just dissapointed that I spent this time getting my A.S. which can transfer to a B.A.S. like I planned on getting all along then I come to find out the B.A.S. isn't the same even though my school told me it was. Either way its back to the drawing board.

I'm sorry...

But, you're a bright individual and I am sure you will find some way to make it work out for ya.

Maybe it's a sign that bigger, better things are coming your way

**Smkn_TA** · 05-14-2009, 03:52 PM

Fall semester grades were just posted. All A's with an A-, mudder fucking math. Seriously who uses -'s in fucking college. BULLSHIT. First A- ever. COCK FUCKING DONKEY DICK. This keeps me off the presidents list. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.

**Nhra Firebird** · 05-14-2009, 04:02 PM

I don't see the point in college for a lot of jobs.... most companies are going to train you the way they want things done.

**67rsss** · 05-14-2009, 04:14 PM

Gotta say that I wouldn't bother hiring a 2 yr, or even a Tech training program (like ITT and whatnot). I can bet a B.S. for the same money, and at least know they can do a bit of math.

**JHayesLS1** · 05-14-2009, 06:44 PM

Yeah I'm all signed up for my new classes to get my B.A. I am kicking myself for spending the money on the A.S. classes when I could of done so much better

**86 IROC-Z** · 05-14-2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

dude i got news for ya, if you can make even 60k these days you are doing alright. The people that are making 100k and up are doing really well. I'd love to be making 60k right now

I know, it's obvious when the average take home in the nation is what, 43k a year? Probably less.

However I would like to at the least make as much as my father, yet reaching that won't take away my aspirations for being as successful as I can.

**310stanger** · 05-14-2009, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

I know, it's obvious when the average take home in the nation is what, 43k a year? Probably less.

However I would like to at the least make as much as my father, yet reaching that won't take away my aspirations for being as successful as I can.

go for the gold. try and make as much money as you possibly can and get the best grades you can and get your degree. I would and am not telling you to do different.