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    True.
    Everyone has their own way of breaking something in.
    Technically there is no break in time needed...other than a heat cycle.
    If you want to be safe...be easy on it. Good luck with that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RainMan
    I would lay off for a few days of driving, let it all get broken in, then change your oil/filter to get the assy lube and any possible break-in metal shavings out. Slap one of those wrap-around oil filter magnets on to trap the heavy metals so it doesn't cycle through the engine. After that have fun.

    Put an extra clean pair of undies in the console, for when you shit yourself like Sarge said!

    Good point forgot to mention that...I got new undies J/K

    Point I was referring to is part of the $400 labor is after everything is done he empties the oil and fills it up with Mobil 1, that's part of the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurley711
    Fuck I can;t wait to get it back....gettign anxious TR224/224 .563 .563 114 LSA...
    Hurley, any particular reason you went with the 114 over the 112? I'm curious, as I too am heavily leaning more toward the TR224/224 , over the FM11 for my daily driver... but the 224's LSA is 112 though.

    By the way, congrats!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Lethal
    Hurley, any particular reason you went with the 114 over the 112? I'm curious, as I too am heavily leaning more toward the TR224/224 , over the FM11 for my daily driver... but the 224's LSA is 112 though.

    By the way, congrats!!!

    Actually have a used 112 sitting right here if you want it. I am in Philly, I can meet you halfway. TR224 .563 112 LSA. I decided to go new after much confusion with a member of another site, only went with the 114 because TR had the 112 on back order, so I couldn't get one for awhile. Not going to make a worlds of diff, but M6 cars like the 112 better, power comes in a few hundred RPMs quicker, and it peaks a few more hp. First choice was a 112.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Lethal
    Hurley, any particular reason you went with the 114 over the 112? I'm curious, as I too am heavily leaning more toward the TR224/224 , over the FM11 for my daily driver... but the 224's LSA is 112 though.

    By the way, congrats!!!

    Futral can be a PITA to deal with. Also TR 224 is a proven street cam, plenty of guys have had success with it you really can't go wrong with it. One other thing is from what I've read/heard/seen on dyno sheets the TR224 OWNS the F11 with under teh curve power, but it does lose out only at peak hp at high up RPMs...so you have to decide where you drive at? In what powerband?
    Last edited by Hurley711; 01-29-2006 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurley711
    Sarge--good point you nake there, is there a break in period for the cam? Or can you lay right into that baby?
    it will be heat cycled on the dyno when they flog youre car.
    i was there when they were tuning my car.
    it almost made me sick when i heard them make that car scream to 6500prm, lol.
    not only did they do it once, but about a dozen times

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainMan
    Maybe so, but it won't hurt anything to be patient and ensure all the parts are working well before thrashing on it, just a little added insurance.

    But that's just my opinion, just hate to see someone throw good money away because of a little impatience.

    watch a tuner tune a car on the dyno. they basicly beat on the motor so they can get the tune correct for whatever set up that car has.
    its broken in on the dyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeeD4SpeeD
    be smart about it... Remember you waited this long to save your money, to do research and to pay for the install so another day or two wont kill you to ensure you dont throw it all down the drain!
    read my post above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurley711
    Not going to make a worlds of diff, but M6 cars like the 112 better, power comes in a few hundred RPMs quicker, and it peaks a few more hp. First choice was a 112.
    is the cam you ordered, straight up, advanced or retarded??
    that will help decide where and what powerband the cam will or wont kick in.
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    I just ordered a regular old TR224 .563 114, that's all I asked for. Guess that's straight up then?

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    1 more day, pick her up tomorrow night...

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    Guys, you may be forgetting there really isn't a break-in for hydraulic roller cams.

    When you break in a flat tappet cam, you are supposed to really coat the lobes and lifter faces with assy lube, then vary the rpms in a range from 1500 to 3000 or so for 15-20 minutes to get good oil circulation in the crank case. You'll generate a slight amount of metal, but thats a non issue in an LS1.

    Heat cycles for the springs = good advice.

    EDIT - didn't see that there was a second page, good luck to you Hurley - Enjoy!
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    Thanks!! I'm excited, did plenty of research on this cam, and time and time again it came back to the good ole TR224. Others peaked more hp, but I don't track race, and rarely drive above 5000 RPMs and teh TR224 seemed to own other cams with the under the curve powerband.

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    where is this shop you are having this done, it seems like a really good price
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    15 mins outside of Phila., small shop, 1500 sq ft or so, guys just starting out, but trust me, HE KNOWS HIS SHIT

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    can you ask him how much he'd charge to put on headers when you pick up your car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurley711
    Thanks!! I'm excited, did plenty of research on this cam, and time and time again it came back to the good ole TR224. Others peaked more hp, but I don't track race, and rarely drive above 5000 RPMs and teh TR224 seemed to own other cams with the under the curve powerband.
    when you come to chicago this year, bring the rice air, opps ram air

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula
    when you come to chicago this year, bring the rice air, opps ram air

    Oh boy this coming from the pollock with the ricer "Badges" all over his car Oh I forgot! It's a NHRA!!!! Badges are cool now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurley711
    Race Proven Motorsports....Claymont DE, just off I-95 near PA/DE

    Name is Fran...1-610-209-0903


    u can call me at 1-302-798-4000.....thats my cell number rich.....and i charge 350 for headers.... if u buy them from me ill cut u a better deal......

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