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**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 01:26 PM

+1 on that. i wouldnt use spacers either.

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 01:49 PM

Yeah i hear whatyour saying about the stud length.. my dad was saying the same thing that it shortens it and risking a chance of your wheel coming off if you hit a pot hole or something.. but if i did want to put a spacer ( which would be my last resort ) then how would i go about getting longer studs? I just have no idea why they are rubbing in the back...

also have you had any issues with your rear end crapping on you? i just have the stock rear end on now, but my dad said that they are pieces of crap.. and my brothers rear end shit on him as well.. any thoughts on that?

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 01:51 PM

what if i tried bending the wheel well out where its rubbing? you think that would help or make a difference or is there another option?

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

Yeah i hear whatyour saying about the stud length.. my dad was saying the same thing that it shortens it and risking a chance of your wheel coming off if you hit a pot hole or something.. but if i did want to put a spacer ( which would be my last resort ) then how would i go about getting longer studs? I just have no idea why they are rubbing in the back...

also have you had any issues with your rear end crapping on you? i just have the stock rear end on now, but my dad said that they are pieces of crap.. and my brothers rear end shit on him as well.. any thoughts on that?

Probably can get studs with the spacers as a package. That being said, I have no idea where you could buy spacers, never shopped for any myself.

As far as the rear ends, they are notorious for crapping out, even under a stock platform.....so be ready. Moser 9" or 12 bolt is the way to go, if you've got the cash to fork out for them, as they run anywhere from $2-3k

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

what if i tried bending the wheel well out where its rubbing? you think that would help or make a difference or is there another option?

You'll probably want to take a hammer, and tap it out, rather than bending. It takes longer, but it's cleaner.

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 01:58 PM

Sorry about all the questions.. this is my first camaro and i only got it a month ago.. this is my new toy and hobby.. my camaro is pretty much stock except the cat back exhaust..

wheres a good place to start upgrading? im not made of money.. so just some things to start for now... my rear end is fine right now but i will keep that advise handy just in case...

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

Sorry about all the questions.. this is my first camaro and i only got it a month ago.. this is my new toy and hobby.. my camaro is pretty much stock except the cat back exhaust..

wheres a good place to start upgrading? im not made of money.. so just some things to start for now... my rear end is fine right now but i will keep that advise handy just in case...

No worries, it's good to get as much info as possible before you go tearing into your car

Well, you living in my Mom's birth city tells me one thing... you can't really touch your exhaust legally.... soooo, I would start with your intake, if you don't already have a K & N filter or similar, and a lid. Find the sticky on here for the free mods, that'll give you some minor gains as well. And the stock suspension can always use upgrades. I recommend talking with Sam Strano at Stranoparts.com for that suspension kind of stuff. I'm sure others will chime in on cheap mods.

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

Sorry about all the questions.. this is my first camaro and i only got it a month ago.. this is my new toy and hobby.. my camaro is pretty much stock except the cat back exhaust..

wheres a good place to start upgrading? im not made of money.. so just some things to start for now... my rear end is fine right now but i will keep that advise handy just in case...

I;m making just over 400 at the wheels, and so far my rear end has taken the beating. but they are known to give out pretty quickly. When i put my 295's in i had to "massage" the rear wells out just a little. that might be where you wnat to start. As far as mods, it depends what you want and how much you wanna spend. alot of people start with a lid and catback. you've already got one of those.

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:12 PM

Check these out

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105128

http://www.installuniversity.com/install_university/

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 02:19 PM

What do you mean i cant do too much to the exhaust? i would be able to put a loud mouth kit or any type of exhaust kit? i already have a K&N with a lid.. that was the first thing i did.. as far as the suspension goes does that company have pretty good prices or something or why do you reccomend him? and what intake would you recomend using? how about headers? or is that not even nessesary, i heard the stock headers work and perform just fine?

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

What do you mean i cant do too much to the exhaust? i would be able to put a loud mouth kit or any type of exhaust kit? i already have a K&N with a lid.. that was the first thing i did.. as far as the suspension goes does that company have pretty good prices or something or why do you reccomend him? and what intake would you recomend using? how about headers? or is that not even nessesary, i heard the stock headers work and perform just fine?

You can't get long tube headers, or cut your cats off, and pass inspections. I think the best you could do is get higher flowing cats... Stock manifolds are about 25hp or so below a good set of long tubes, so yeah, there is power to be had if you stay stock.

And I recommend Sam because he won't bullshit you into buying something you don't need. He will tell you to call him, so that you can discuss exactly what you are trying to do, and your budget, so he can get you the right stuff. And he's won several races himself, in his Camaro. Check out his website, it's all there.

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

What do you mean i cant do too much to the exhaust? i would be able to put a loud mouth kit or any type of exhaust kit? i already have a K&N with a lid.. that was the first thing i did.. as far as the suspension goes does that company have pretty good prices or something or why do you reccomend him? and what intake would you recomend using? how about headers? or is that not even nessesary, i heard the stock headers work and perform just fine?

Well he is talking about California smog laws. since i live in cali i feel your pain. LT headers would net you a good amount of power, but are not smog legal. Strano is one of our site sponsors, and he has great prices. as far as intakes go, an LS6 would net you some power but in the long run the FAST would be better.

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 02:23 PM

thanks for those links.. very helpful and good info!

i have 3:73 gears in now.. do you think its a perfect size gear for my tires?

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Y2KArcticSS

You can't get long tube headers, or cut your cats off, and pass inspections. I think the best you could do is get higher flowing cats... Stock manifolds are about 25hp or so below a good set of long tubes, so yeah, there is power to be had if you stay stock.

And I recommend Sam because he won't bullshit you into buying something you don't need. He will tell you to call him, so that you can discuss exactly what you are trying to do, and your budget, so he can get you the right stuff. And he's won several races himself, in his Camaro. Check out his website, it's all there.

you beat me to it!

**-Hot Sause-** · 02-20-2009, 02:25 PM

ok perfect..

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

Well he is talking about California smog laws. since i live in cali i feel your pain. LT headers would net you a good amount of power, but are not smog legal. Strano is one of our site sponsors, and he has great prices. as far as intakes go, an LS6 would net you some power but in the long run the FAST would be better.

He pulled his sponsorship here, but he's still sponsoring Tech. He said he wasn't making many, if any, gains from here.

But he's still a member I think.

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by -Hot Sause-

thanks for those links.. very helpful and good info!

i have 3:73 gears in now.. do you think its a perfect size gear for my tires?

you could go to 4:10's and would notice a difference. i stayed with the 3:73's but thats up to you.

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

you beat me to it!

Yeah, but I missed the intake part

Good show.

**Dr.Crash** · 02-20-2009, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Y2KArcticSS

He pulled his sponsorship here, but he's still sponsoring Tech. He said he wasn't making many, if any, gains from here.

But he's still a member I think.

When did that happen? am i that retarded?

**Y2KArcticSS** · 02-20-2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

When did that happen? am i that retarded?

Not very long ago, and he was quiet about it. He's still very reputable, I still recommend him anyway

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