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Thread: What Next, I Need More Hp!!!
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06-09-2009, 08:11 PM #21
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06-09-2009, 11:34 PM #22
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06-10-2009, 01:46 AM #23
yeah I know where he is coming from, I thought the same way he did about stalls, but.......not getting a stall kinda kills the build from the start....stock these motors really want a 3,600 stall.
I still find it hard to justify $500 stall, but you almost need one off the bat with an auto
lol and hey man, dish it out I can take it.....guess its about time for me to troll your site again lol
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06-10-2009, 04:14 AM #24
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06-10-2009, 04:55 AM #25
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Interesting, I hadn't thought of swapping in heads alone without a cam...you say you can still get decent gains that way.
Labour is the wild card though. How many hours would a typical shop charge to swap heads, or to swap a cam. Is doing both at once a savings of time compared to doing one then later the other?
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06-10-2009, 04:56 AM #26
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06-10-2009, 06:02 AM #27
do NOT swap heads and leave a stock cam in there. The opened up runners will hurt things down low and since you cam is just plain dead up top, there is little to nothing to gain. I tuned an 01 A4 Vette recently with boltons and heads only. It made 335rwhp. That's what I'd expect it to make WITHOUT the heads.
You have to have the stall before the cam, and the cam will cost more than the stall installed. You WANT the converter, you just don't know it yet
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06-10-2009, 06:34 AM #28
ZEX wet nitrous 75HP - 175 HP, $550 is the best bang for your buck and you don't use it unless you want to cook some rice.
Suggest investing in a window switch to shut it down during shifts from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd.
Yank 3600 stall is good idea along with the trans tune.
If you want to get radical go with the heads and cam and the N20
Too much is never enough!
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06-10-2009, 06:45 AM #29
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06-10-2009, 06:49 AM #30
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06-10-2009, 08:27 AM #31
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Oh a man can dream...but that sounds like a lot of broken parts to me. I have ZERO experience to base decisions upon myself so all I'm going on is what I get here and from other guys talking cars. But with any more than full bolt ons I'm starting to risk the 10bolt and possibly the tranny..aren't I.
(Though I'm sure not using any tire more radical than a 315 nitto 555 street tire does help me avoid breakage somewhat)
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06-10-2009, 12:02 PM #32
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blacker than wesleysnipes- 98' trans am
traction kills the 10 bolt..with a stall ...traction will become a issue..since it is nearly impossible to hook up..with you being a street machine...traction is not a issue ...
also worth noting that torque +traction = no more 10 bolt...but you being on street radials and mostly only street driving on a auto..you should not be worried
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06-10-2009, 12:06 PM #33
Go with a Head/Cam Combo!
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06-10-2009, 10:19 PM #34
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06-10-2009, 11:29 PM #35
The LS2 cam is much more suited to those numbers then the cams in the 99-00 vettes / F-bodies though. All I can remember for sure was they were stg2 by some large board sponsor on tech and were 61ish CC's and the vette was a 99.
There are exceptions but that vette marked the 3rd 3rd gen setup I've seen that was heads only that had very little gain. Another local car made around 350-360 with boltons and TEA heads and stock cam. I just generally try to prepare people for the possibility up front.
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06-11-2009, 09:49 AM #36
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Ok, if I toss in a cam and a stall I'm going to be launching "realatively gently" from there on out (due to the 315/35/17 street 555 nitto's I run)...yet still harder than my best launch now, I assume, and thereby saving a little ET off the line.
But mostly I will be making more power thanks to the cam, and realizing more power thanks to the new torque converter and saving a lot of ET down the rest of the track.
Is this all sounding right so far??? Please correct me if not. This would actually be a good set up for me over being an off the line monster that isn't as strong down track. I think I'm going to be "racing down" a lot so I won't need to be making big digs off the line, but if some kid pops N20 halfway down the track I'm going to need to be able to get fully on it and come back past him.
Now breakage wise, I assume the initial launch is the the harshest part of the run, even on wide street tires...or would the 1-2 shift be worse (as the tires will hook for that one) ?
I have to plan my set up around "Survivability" I can't be risking the tranny or the 10 bolt....or at least doing what I can to minimize risk.
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06-11-2009, 10:06 AM #37
so what makes a good cam?
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06-11-2009, 10:07 AM #38
HELP... I cant figure out how to post a new thread...
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06-11-2009, 12:23 PM #39
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06-14-2009, 06:20 PM #40
I have a A4 and added 3.73's and still get over 20mpg on the highway and alot more kick. TCI 3000 stall is next then I wanna get a C6 vette. After the Hertz rental I had for 4 days I was in love. The paddles and LS3 is awsome.
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