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Thread: SS vs 3000-GT VR4
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12-25-2006, 11:14 AM #21Member
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Burgandy- 2002 Z28
230 (AWD) WHP is nothing to scoff at.
What would the F-Body WHP be rated at if it was AWD?
Listen, personally I would never buy a VR4, and I dont really like them at all...
but...
They can be made faster, and I've seen very fast ones at the drag strip.
AWD cars are quick out of the hole... an obvious advantage on the street.
Here are some dyno charts:
http://www.daveblack.net/asp/DynoResults.asp
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12-25-2006, 02:41 PM #22The Bandit
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SGM- 1998 Trans Am WS6
230WHP is pathetic for a vehicle thats rated at 320HP at the crank. Thats a huge loss, and I don't consider a 3800lb vehicle with 230WHP "fast" at all. More like "dog", if anything.
Originally Posted by Rich L
Bro, I know they can be "made fast". Any car can with enough time and money. But is it worth it to make a pig-heavy Mitsubitchi fast, only to have it fall apart on you?? Hell no, and those cars are complete garbage, so thats what ends up happening. Like I said - my friend had one, tried to do mods, and it was all worthless in the end because you can't make a shitty car anything other than a shitty car.Listen, personally I would never buy a VR4, and I dont really like them at all...
but...
They can be made faster, and I've seen very fast ones at the drag strip.
AWD cars are quick out of the hole... an obvious advantage on the street.
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12-25-2006, 04:08 PM #23Member
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Burgandy- 2002 Z28
My biggest complaint about the VR4...
there is no room to fit a wrench anyplace in the engine compartment!
I wouldnt want to work on one.
Anyway, IMHO if any car can be "tuned" into a low 12 second car...
is cool in my book.
I just wouldnt do it with that car.
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12-25-2006, 05:04 PM #24Junior Member
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Black- 2002 Camaro Z-28
Vr-4's suck for modding. I owned one. Sold it. Bought a camaro :-D
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12-26-2006, 10:53 AM #25Consumer of kraut
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Light Pewter Metallic- y2k 8-cylinder catfish
Wesman, what color is your VR-4?
2000 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 A4 - Light Pewter Metallic
Direct Flo lid, SLP Loudmouth, Bassani Offroad Y-Pipe, BMR strut tower brace, BMR subframe connectors, shift points tune and !EGR
2011 Kia Forte EX A6 Sportmatic - Titanium Silver Metallic
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12-27-2006, 02:45 PM #26The Bandit
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SGM- 1998 Trans Am WS6
I don't own one, and never will, they are trash. Originally Posted by SiggyZ
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12-27-2006, 02:47 PM #27King 0f n00bz
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blacker than wesleysnipes- 98' trans am
Originally Posted by SiggyZ
wesman own a import. thats a joke. he thinks anything made in japan is rice and jap crap. even the supra tt...
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12-28-2006, 06:17 AM #28Consumer of kraut
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I bet my '90 Honda Accord with 208k miles can whoop up on his Trans Am.
Originally Posted by shady milkman
wesman own a import. thats a joke. he thinks anything made in japan is rice and jap crap. even the supra tt...
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12-28-2006, 06:32 AM #29Junior Member
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yeah in mpg Originally Posted by SiggyZ
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12-28-2006, 06:37 AM #30Consumer of kraut
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Light Pewter Metallic- y2k 8-cylinder catfish
No, I'd blow his doors off too.
Originally Posted by FATTONY
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12-28-2006, 09:03 AM #31Senior Member
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pewter- 2001 z28 lingenfelter 383
lmao uh oh here we go....are u just messing with wesman or do u have a VERY VERY modded accord?
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12-28-2006, 09:08 AM #32Consumer of kraut
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Light Pewter Metallic- y2k 8-cylinder catfish
You'll just have to remain in limbo on that one.
Originally Posted by tonyjnjz
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12-28-2006, 10:24 AM #33Junior Member
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Navy Blue Metallic- 01 SS,TT, SLP, M6
I have a 01 SS with SLP intake and Exhaust + Ls6 maf thats it and my buddys 95 Stealth RT/TT pulls from my car like its parked on the Fwy and No chance from a dig ALL WHEEL DRIVE, then again he is one of the top VR4/Stealth tunners on the west coast. "If VR4 is stock and SS is healthy, pretty much even from 60 to 120 where VR4's falls off" Drivers Race (my buddy Eric Roehm) Stock for stock 91 -93 VR4 vs. SS you would have more advantage. Dont get me wrong i love my SS and so does Eric! But your biggest variance is in the driver. PM me with year what he has done to it and Eric will tell you what you chances are. Lets put it this way there are a few 9 sec 140mph VR4's out by you East Coast. Bottom line is potentially, SS could be faster for less money, its all about who sets them up. "If it looks like sh!^ then go from a dig and it will probably break" (Eric
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12-28-2006, 07:37 PM #34The Bandit
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SGM- 1998 Trans Am WS6
I bet we'd all be better off if you just stopped posting. Originally Posted by SiggyZ
Thanks, now shutup. Stoopid Newbs.
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12-28-2006, 07:41 PM #35Member
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sunset orange- 2001 SS VERT
Keep it civil guys
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12-29-2006, 04:26 AM #36Consumer of kraut
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I'm not a stoopid newb sir. I was on this forum a long time before you were. I just had to re-register since it was a long time before I was active. Let's just hope I don't run into your T/A on the street while I'm in my Honda. I'll just have to blow your doors off.
Originally Posted by Wesman
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12-29-2006, 04:28 AM #37Consumer of kraut
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Don't worry, I will. I'm just having a little fun with him.
Originally Posted by fast droptop
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12-29-2006, 08:28 AM #38King 0f n00bz
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blacker than wesleysnipes- 98' trans am
Originally Posted by fast droptop
wesman being civil...oh man
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12-29-2006, 08:31 AM #39Consumer of kraut
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Light Pewter Metallic- y2k 8-cylinder catfish
He does seem to get a tiddy bit worked up over things, eh?
Originally Posted by shady milkman
wesman being civil...oh man
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12-29-2006, 09:14 AM #40Senior Member
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pewter- 2001 z28 lingenfelter 383
come on now..u have me curious about this all mighty accord...at least send me a pm with its mods and specs/dyno
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