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Thread: A4 or M6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-18-2010, 03:41 PM #21
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10-25-2010, 06:15 AM #22
x2. i sold my m6 cause i kept getting the clutch pressure fade problem.when u install longtubes,it just makes things worse.i fabbed an exhaust shield,wrapped the line,did the drill mod,bled the clutch,and it still never went away totally.so for me,i wanted an a4 to get away from clutch issues.granted the a4 is a weak link,but if you get a builder that knows what they are doing,they can make one last just like a perfomabuilt or flt tranny.
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10-25-2010, 06:43 AM #23
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i really wanted an m6 but i settled for an a4 because i got a hell of a deal that i just could not pass up
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10-25-2010, 08:19 AM #24
my two v6s(94 camaro & 02 firebird) were autos and i was a little tired of not getting to shift so i waited untill i found my m6 it took me 2 year but it was worth it. So no i would not change it for an A4
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10-25-2010, 08:20 AM #25
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10-25-2010, 08:23 AM #26
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10-25-2010, 08:34 AM #27
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10-25-2010, 08:39 AM #28
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10-25-2010, 10:00 AM #29
I agree it is hard to turn down a good deal, a friend of mine wanted a manual. After a while he found a 99ss m6 with 129k miles and the dealer was asking 9 grand( I know sounds crazy but that's what they were asking for it). he wasn't so sure so he checked on the computer and and found a 99ws6 A4 for 6,000 with only 102k miles. so he got the ws6 instead of the ss.
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10-25-2010, 10:02 AM #30
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10-25-2010, 10:09 AM #31
Thanks for the reply guys.....So, it sounds like the almighty dollar plays a bigger role than I thought. It seems a good deal is a good deal. It's also becoming obvious that it really depends on what one uses their F-body for.
One would think an M6 would be funner for the street, and the A4 would be more applicable and consistent at the track.
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10-25-2010, 10:13 AM #32
Yeah, this makes sense. I tend to agree with you on your point here. Mine was similiar as I had an auto IROC-Z for years and really wanted to shift gears manually. After driving my buddies LS1WS6T56, I was ready to make the change!
However I wouldn't mind having one Auto LS1 and one Manual LS1......
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10-25-2010, 10:16 AM #33
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10-25-2010, 10:44 AM #34
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When I set out to buy an Fbody several years ago I wanted an M6 but could only find A4's within the mileage and price range I wanted. My wife also made the case that she would rather drive an auto. So when I found a good deal I took it, no regrets. Then when I set I set out to replace my Z28 I didn't really care which one I ended up with since it's my DD and as previously mentioned, both have their strong points. I will admit that it is my prefrence to drive a manual but as far as practicality for a DD I am satisfied with my A4, I'm sure I will be more than satisfied once I throw a 3K stall on it
Although I do plan on getting a third car for weekend cruising, and hopefully by the time I have things sorted out I can be in a C5 or C6. If/when that ever happens it will have to be an M6. Even the wife agrees on that.Last edited by robcas47; 10-25-2010 at 10:47 AM.
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10-25-2010, 11:02 AM #35
I like your disposition on this subject. Sounds like your wifes input is important to you on this subject and I respect that. Kinda makes me feel guilty......I purchased my F-Body, drove it home and surprised my wife. Needless to say the only thing that saved me was the fact it was a convertible! Outside of that I would have had a long trip driving it back to where I purchased it from!lol
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10-25-2010, 11:03 AM #36
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no questions asked..i wanted the 4l60e so i could stall it and embarrass m6 owners ...remember gents ...unless you are road racing or hpe ...manuals are for impressing high school girls ...while the auto is for winning races
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10-25-2010, 11:30 AM #37
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10-25-2010, 11:31 AM #38
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10-25-2010, 11:42 AM #39
You should be careful of what you say.
A 3.23 rear gear with the automatics 1st gear of 3.06 gives you 45 mph at just under 6k rpms. With the 3.42 rear and the 1st gear of the T56 of 2.66 you are at 5.5k rpms at 45 mph.
See what this says? The 3.23 with the auto is steeper out of the hole than the 6-speed with the 3.42 gears. Unless my math is wrong and I highly doubt that it is.
Please factor all things in when you speak of "better" gears. You need to use tranny ratios, tire size, and the rear gear in order to give an accurate depiction as to what is "better". The reason GM gave automatics a little less gear than the manual tranny cars is not just for the overdrive differences between the two. It is also because of the steeper 1st gear in the automatics. Look back at the 70s with the LT1 Z28s. I believe 4-speeds were given 3.73 and the automatics were given the 3.42.
I wanted a 6-speed because my Corvette and my GTO were both but the car I found was an A4. It was nice, not beat, ran great, had low miles, and it would be used as a daily driver so the A4 was not a killer to me. Plus, my girl can drive it and I dont get worried about her "shifting abilitites" or lack there of.
For an everyday car I prefer the automatic but a 6-speed is not out of the way. As far as a toy car to get used once in a while I would prefer a 6-speed. For drag racing only I would sway towards the automatic for the consistency of it, however there is something to be said for those boys who can pilot the manual tranny cars to really REALLY low times and fast trap speeds.Last edited by TLS_Addict; 10-25-2010 at 11:48 AM. Reason: I used a 25" tall tire for my calculations.......lol
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10-25-2010, 12:06 PM #40
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My wife and I both love cars and F-Bodies equally. She admits to not being as good a driver when it comes to a manual so I was reluctant to get an M6 to avoid any mishaps on her part and pretty much spare her the guilt or embarrassment. Since I knew she would be driving the car as much as I would, (and even more while I'm away), I leaned more towards an A4. The only reason we both agree on an M6 C5 or C6 is because she simply has always justed wanted own and drive a Vette, and I on the other hand just want to "drive"
one.
Also, I agree that being able to have both an A4 and an M6 would be great because I like having an A4 DD, especially when in traffic trying to get on post. But there are also the fun lil burnouts, parking lot fun, and just plain mash'n it and keeping her straight . But then with a M6 I feel more involved with the car and the driving experience which makes it that much more of a treat. So for a car that is meant for pure recreational purposes I personally would want it to be a M6. Hope this makes sense to you all. Just my 2 cents...
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