do you slow down with your clutch or brakes

[Max Power]

tell that to the person after you just drove the nose of your car up the ass of their's, and see what their reaction is...

like you i am never at the limits of my brakes around town, however i can only speak for myself, not all the other asshats that drive cars. gotta be ready for anything, son...

I've managed to last so far without doing it... so I must be doing something right.

Besides, reaction time + tires matter more than downshifting ever will. Once you're at the traction limit... downshifting does zero... zip... nada to help you slow down.
(And my cars can out-stop 90+% of all cars)

[Modulistic]

I've managed to last so far without doing it... so I must be doing something right.

Besides, reaction time + tires matter more than downshifting ever will. Once you're at the traction limit... downshifting does zero... zip... nada to help you slow down.
(And my cars can out-stop 90+% of all cars)

the traction limit can be reached at the front tires before it is reached at the rear tires thanks to unequal brake system bias, or the rear tires first in light trucks where a payload is assumed to be carried in the bed of the vehicle.

downshifting with transmission layshaft speedup in mind can be useful if...someone... doesnt rely on his fancy slotted and drilled rotors and 4 piston calipers.



heh

[JonB]

i thought you failed that class?

I usually just use the brakes but I'm lazy.

[Max Power]

the traction limit can be reached at the front tires before it is reached at the rear tires thanks to unequal brake system bias, or the rear tires first in light trucks where a payload is assumed to be carried in the bed of the vehicle.

downshifting with transmission layshaft speedup in mind can be useful if...someone... doesnt rely on his fancy slotted and drilled rotors and 4 piston calipers.



heh

It's still extremely weak compared to brakes.

[ShelbySS]

I dunno know which way is better....although I'll usually downshift from 4th to third to get the initial slowing and then after 3rd, I just use breaks......
sometimes though like if I'm in a hurry or whatever I just use breaks

[Sarge]

I utilize the Toyota Supra I just wasted...dragging them behind me for a few hundred feet...then I apply the brakes in a slow pumping motion for maximum efficiency. I hear Subaru's also drag very well. I dunno.

[eddierox]

If it's a fine babe roll'n next to me of course I clutch it and my give it some rrr's as I pull my shades down and eyeball her.
Most of the time this tactic requires me to slam on my brakes before I 86 the mofo in front of me who all of a sudden wants to scam on my game by slowing down.

[mst219]

haha i believe this was started in one of my threads

[ss~zoso~ss]

inspired by http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41530

[tnthub]

Wow...

Modern cars don't need to be downshifted as a braking technique. Back in the day I used to downshift, double clutch, and brake in 1950s and 1960s tractors and trucks. You had to do it, especially with air brakes that would fail if you didn't. If you didn't double clutch nothing would go into gear either... But that is simply not necessary on reasonably modern passenger cars and consumer level trucks.

Just use the brakes and if you need to shift to maintain speed or whatever just do it. Brakes are less expensive than clutches.

I do have to downshift in my Camaro as I have a manual valve body automatic. I also have to have enough line pressure so I don't blow it. It is not an easy car to drive on the street.

[ShelbySS]

If it's a fine babe roll'n next to me of course I clutch it and my give it some rrr's as I pull my shades down and eyeball her.
Most of the time this tactic requires me to slam on my brakes before I 86 the mofo in front of me who all of a sudden wants to scam on my game by slowing down.

literally made me LOL

[mst219]

inspired by http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41530

as the great homer simpson would say... whoo-hoo!

[johnd]

Guess. I had to replace my back brake pads at about 45K and the front ones have 79K and aren't worn out yet. When you live out side of town like I do and have plenty of time and space to plan stops, you almost don't need to use brakes at all. And NO, there isn't any wear on the synchros if you match rpms. I had to learn how to do this when I drove a semi-they don't have any synchros, you know.

[9t8z28]

I am always looking to go from point A to point B without stopping. So when I am behind someone at a light, I try to never stop, so naturally I am downshifting to keep myself in the right gear and therefor I rarely use the brakes. Your not wasting any gas. Save your brakes for when you really need them. I never ever consider shifting to be a choir. I never get tired of it. Most people that don't downshift are just lazy and they might as well be driving an automatic.
I am always ready to stomp on the gas, so I will always be ahead of you, cause I'm always in the right gear.

[9t8z28]

i rev match rpms on downshift and then use my brake when i have to... doesn't do shit to the clutch other than normal wear.. uses less breakss but guzzles some gas...

You use less gas slowing down then when the car is idling.

[sgt0704]

when i was first starting, i used brakes only. but after being Motor T, and downshifting for the big trucks, it's just became a habit. so i 98% of the time downshift. unless i just get done with Leg day at the gym.

[sassy]

My father taught me to always downshift when braking. He has been a mechanic for over 30 yrs.

[snaggeltooth]

Instructions
STEP 1: Begin braking with your right foot as you approach the corner. Use the ball of your foot to apply pressure to the brake pedal. This provide the optimal brake pressure since the ball of your foot is aligned with you knee. STEP 2: Placing the ball of your foot in the center of the brake pedal will allow the right side of your foot to hang off the brake pedal and be closer to the gas pedal. This will be important for the next few steps. STEP 3: Press in the clutch pedal with your left foot. STEP 4: While still applying pressure to the brake pedal with your right foot, roll your foot to the right so that you touch the gas pedal. Use the outside edge of your right foot to press and release or “blip” the throttle. This will briefly raise the engine’s RPM to match the speed of the wheels and ensure a smooth shift. Only practice will help you figure out the precise amount of throttle blip required in your car, but you can try between 1,000 to 2,000 RPM to downshift a single gear. STEP 5: Move the shift lever into the gear that you want to select. This is usually one gear lower that the gear you were in prior to braking. STEP 6: Let out the clutch with your left foot. STEP 7: Take your right foot off the brake and turn into the corner. Accelerate smoothly out of the corne

[ss~zoso~ss]

na na na u floor the gas and dump the clutch and drift out of the corner nice and smooth

[Spaz]

You use less gas slowing down then when the car is idling.

i said rev matching...