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    Is this BS?

    Someone is selling me a 99TA which claims to have 500 horses. Without the nitrous is this care car capable of 500 flywheel horsepower? Can someone please explain a little bit more on the heads. I don't understand all of the info.

    The body and front wheel bearings have 57,000 miles.

    The engine is new(6,000 miles): 2002 High Performance LS1 stock pistons, stock crank,stock rods. ARP Rod Bolts, ARP Main Studs, ARP Head Studs, LS6(modded) oil pump

    CAM: FMS 232/236 .585/.595

    HEAD: TEA 5.3 stage 2.5 heads CNC'd, 40 hrs of competition hand porting, special NITROUS exhaust port, 2.05 intake. 1.60 exhaust halves (receipts)

    INTAKE: LS6

    Injectors: 28Lbs.

    Throttle Body: Ported by Ranger (GMMG)

    Engine assembled installed and tuned by Mike at GMMG

    Tranny: New 6000 miles 4L60E Art Carr

    Stall: Vigilante 3800

    Rear end: Moser 12 bolt with Strange pro series 4.11's and a posi unit

    Suspension: Front-stock springs/shocks no fron sway bar installed

    YOU WILL GET ORIGINAL OEM SUSPENSION COMPONENTS if you would like.

    BMR Subframe connectors

    REAR:- stock springs/shocks

    SPOHN tunnelbrace/torque arm/driveshaft loop/LCA's/Panhard bar ( all adjustable)

    Wheels: 15x3.5 Weld Draglites w/Futura tires

    15x10(7.5" backspace) Futura tires 1000 miles

    15x3.5 Weld Dragstars w Firestone tires

    15x10 (6.5" backspacing) Nitto's

    YOU WILL GET ALL THESE TIRES!

    NITROUS: NX MAF Kit 150 SHOT

    Exhaust: Jet Hot Long Tube Headers

    Hooker OffRoad Y pipe

    4" Mufflex with Flowmaster

    This car also has line lock

    500 HP 700 WITH NITROUS
    Last edited by jackieiraqi2004; 07-04-2006 at 06:57 PM. Reason: mispelled some words

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackieiraqi2004 View Post
    Someone is selling me a 99TA which claims to have 500 horses. Without the nitrous is this care car capable of 500 flywheel horsepower? Can someone please explain a little bit more on the heads. I don't understand all of the info.

    The body and front wheel bearings have 57,000 miles.

    The engine is new(6,000 miles): 2002 High Performance LS1 stock pistons, stock crank,stock rods. ARP Rod Bolts, ARP Main Studs, ARP Head Studs, LS6(modded) oil pump

    CAM: FMS 232/236 .585/.595

    HEAD: TEA 5.3 stage 2.5 heads CNC'd, 40 hrs of competition hand porting, special NITROUS exhaust port, 2.05 intake. 1.60 exhaust halves (receipts)

    INTAKE: LS6

    Injectors: 28Lbs.

    Throttle Body: Ported by Ranger (GMMG)

    Engine assembled installed and tuned by Mike at GMMG

    Tranny: New 6000 miles 4L60E Art Carr

    Stall: Vigilante 3800

    Rear end: Moser 12 bolt with Strange pro series 4.11's and a posi unit

    Suspension: Front-stock springs/shocks no fron sway bar installed

    YOU WILL GET ORIGINAL OEM SUSPENSION COMPONENTS if you would like.

    BMR Subframe connectors

    REAR:- stock springs/shocks

    SPOHN tunnelbrace/torque arm/driveshaft loop/LCA's/Panhard bar ( all adjustable)

    Wheels: 15x3.5 Weld Draglites w/Futura tires

    15x10(7.5" backspace) Futura tires 1000 miles

    15x3.5 Weld Dragstars w Firestone tires

    15x10 (6.5" backspacing) Nitto's

    YOU WILL GET ALL THESE TIRES!

    NITROUS: NX MAF Kit 150 SHOT

    Exhaust: Jet Hot Long Tube Headers

    Hooker OffRoad Y pipe

    4" Mufflex with Flowmaster

    This car also has line lock

    500 HP 700 WITH NITROUS
    With that cam and 28lb injectors I...wait a minute...a flying pig just flew over my house...never mind...
    Nah I think we are polishing the pig w/ the 500 HP statement...The heads now are difficult as you say the have 40 hours of polishing....man thats a shitload of polishing....so who knows what they flow...tiny exhaust valve though....but the dead give away is the injectors...no way in hell you gonna get 500hp on 28lb injectors...no way...I mean lets compare here....I put down 540'ish..
    GM LQ9 Iron Block
    Forged Balanced Lunati Crank Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
    Mahle Forged Pistons/Rings FAST Fuel Rails
    Lunati Forged Rods 48lb Injectors
    ARP Rod Bolts
    SLP Underdrive Pulley
    LS6 Lingenfelter Ported High Flow Oil Pump
    Clay Smith Cam 238/242, .602/.610 lift on a 114 LSA
    Patriot 243 Heads 64cc Chambers flow @ 340 cfm @.640 lift
    Patriot Gold dual valve springs .650 lift
    Titanium Retainers
    ARP Head Bolts
    Nick Williams 90mm Throttle Body
    Z06 MAF (MafLess SD Tune coming this week)
    FAST 90mm Intake
    Perma-Cool Remote Dual Oil Filters
    Perma-Cool Oil Cooler
    Royal Purple Racing 41 Motor Oil w/ dual AC/Delco filters
    Now I may believe he puts out 500 with that shot of nitrous.....but with stock pistons and rings he aint gonna do it for long thats for damn sure...

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    he also says 700 with N20 but only has listed it as a 150 shot, sounds like a joke to me, or just say ill buy it if you take it to a dyno and it puts out those numbers

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    never mind

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    450 possibly at the most. No way 500.

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    hmmm sounds like it is a very similar set up to mine.
    CNC Ported LS6 heads, 5.7L flowing around 310 cfm @ .600 lift.
    237/242 .603/.609 113 LSA cam
    except I have true dual 3 inches.
    with tune put down 420 rwhp, so maybe around 470ish flywheel or so. if he claims 500 RWHP, then I would raise the flag also....BS.

    unless that ported throttle body and tune by GMMG is all that. If so, hell yeah I will make me an appointment so I too can achieve 500 RWHP. wow that is an 80 RWHP gain off a ported throttle body and a tune.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TACE02 View Post
    hmmm sounds like it is a very similar set up to mine.
    CNC Ported LS6 heads, 5.7L flowing around 310 cfm @ .600 lift.
    237/242 .603/.609 113 LSA cam
    except I have true dual 3 inches.
    with tune put down 420 rwhp, so maybe around 470ish flywheel or so. if he claims 500 RWHP, then I would raise the flag also....BS.

    unless that ported throttle body and tune by GMMG is all that. If so, hell yeah I will make me an appointment so I too can achieve 500 RWHP. wow that is an 80 RWHP gain off a ported throttle body and a tune.

    you have a bigger cam though and what size are your injectors? He also claimed 500 flywheel HP not at the tires. Even so I would claim BS. I would say 450 flywheel HP though without the nitrous.

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    request a dyno.

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    I either have 24 or 28 lb. injectors, not sure on that one. lol. it is possible the previous owner left bigger ones in, seeings how she left the second fuel pump in and running. As for the 500 flywheel HP, K, I see that now in the post. MMMM well maybe. Seems a little steep. Most head and cam packages offer around the 470-480 flywheel range, and that is with most bolt-ons. It isn't unheard of to achieve more. Maybe GMMG did a REALLY good job on it.

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    Hmmm, heads/cam.................it could be close.........but maybe not quite. As said above, ask for the dyno sheet for

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