Buying a truck, opinions wanted.

[GTP231]

How does the most popular engine translate to standard no cost option?

[98TransAmWs-6]

Why the heck are the Dodge trucks cheap up here or at least when compared to GM.

[theorangeguy]

Why the heck are the Dodge trucks cheap up here or at least when compared to GM.

GM vs dodge is a pretty big difference down here. I've never been able to find a GM truck with the same options as a dodge for the same price. GM is almost always more expensive...that's why I was shocked at the prices you have been listing. I have been told many times that GM products are cheaper up north for some reason but I don't know why...a buddy of mine down here buys all his Chevy's from Michigan and drives them back to the south.

[98TransAmWs-6]

I live near DC. Everything is expensive lol.

[5.0THIS]

Why the heck are the Dodge trucks cheap up here or at least when compared to GM.

Dodge has always had to undercut GM and Ford on full size truck prices. Despite the lower prices, they still sell only a fraction of what Ford and GM sell. Dodge is making leaps and bounds though closing the gap between themselves and Ford/GM as far as quality and capability. Their new 1/2 ton diesel engine is awesome; I expect Ford and GM to follow suit with a similar offering in coming years if early sales numbers are a good indicator of popularity.

[theorangeguy]

Dodge has always had to undercut GM and Ford on full size truck prices. Despite the lower prices, they still sell only a fraction of what Ford and GM sell. Dodge is making leaps and bounds though closing the gap between themselves and Ford/GM as far as quality and capability. Their new 1/2 ton diesel engine is awesome; I expect Ford and GM to follow suit with a similar offering in coming years if early sales numbers are a good indicator of popularity.

my next truck will be a 1500 diesel...Nissan is coming out with a Titan that has a cummins in it, Dodge just released the eco-diesel, and like you said...Ford and GM should be following right behind them.

[98TransAmWs-6]

Found this for 26k with 13000 miles. It is a 2010 fully loaded except for Navigation.

[theorangeguy]

Found this for 26k with 13000 miles. It is a 2010 fully loaded except for Navigation.

looks familiar lol

[98TransAmWs-6]

That truck I posted if GM would be high 30s if not 40s lol or at least in my area it would be.

[theorangeguy]

That truck I posted if GM would be high 30s if not 40s lol or at least in my area it would be.

thats what i've always found as well...I tried to get GM to match but they wouldnt. All I can say is that if you are comfortable with GM products stick with them but if you want to get into something else Dodge is the way to go imo. I would not buy an F150 personally...dont like the 5.4's and the ecoboost is just not for me.

I would own a Raptor tho if I was in the market for something like that. I love that truck.

Almost forgot...im not sure if it matters or not, but the orange dodge that you posted is the Quad Cab so the back seat and back doors are going to be smaller than the Crew Cab that GM and Dodge offers. Mine is a crew cab and has a ton of room in the back seat. Just something to keep in mind...

[98TransAmWs-6]

Oh I thought it was a crew cab but that makes sense as it looked smaller. The dealership listed it as a crew cab lol. Yeah I need a crew cab.

[Zinergy]

How does the most popular engine translate to standard no cost option?

Where did I say no cost option? I said it is the standard for GM. Meaning the norm, what the personal consumer expects to buy. I was comparing dodges standard(aka the norm) the 5.7 liter versus GM. Then you stated that I would be suprised how many 4.8s and 4.3s are on the road. Well that number has to be less than 20% of GM trucks sold. Far less actually as the 5.3 liter makes up over 80% of sales. That leaves 19 or so percent left to be split up between the 4.3, 4.8, 6.0 and 6.2. Therefore the 5.3 liter is the norm, which is another word for standard.

GM considers the short bed to be the 5.8ft bed but the "STANDARD" bed is the 6.5 foot bed(which costs more crew cab vs crew cab). Because that is the standard for beds and has been for quite some time. Just as the 5.3 liter has been the standard engine since 99.

[Zinergy]

Oh I thought it was a crew cab but that makes sense as it looked smaller. The dealership listed it as a crew cab lol. Yeah I need a crew cab.

Yes but the beds are smaller on crew cabs as well. Most people these days take the bigger back seat and the smaller bed as they usually aren't hauling. I still prefer the 6.5 ft beds. And I believe GM now offers the crew cab with the 6.5 ft bed in the 1500 with the 2014 plus models.

[theorangeguy]

Yes but the beds are smaller on frew cabs as well. Most people these days take the bigger back seat and the smaller bed as they usually aren't hauling.

I can fit a 4wheeler in the back of mine and close the tailgate so im good to go. My father in law has a 2009 4 door silverado and my bed is just a tad longer...I can tell because if I put fishing rods in the back of my truck, they can only touch one corner but when they are in his, they will touch corner to corner. probably a 3-4 inch difference diagonally but nothing crazy. Mine also feels like it has a little more room in the back seat than his which is weird because you would think his bed would be longer at that point.

[98TransAmWs-6]

I tried to get GM to match but they wouldnt. All I can say is that if you are comfortable with GM products stick with them but if you want to get into something else Dodge is the way to go imo.

I am comfortable with both GM and Dodge as I have owned both but for some reason I like GM better I don't know why. Although I found a fully loaded Longhorn edition with 46000 miles that I kind of like lol.

[98TransAmWs-6]

Yes but the beds are smaller on crew cabs as well. Most people these days take the bigger back seat and the smaller bed as they usually aren't hauling. I still prefer the 6.5 ft beds. And I believe GM now offers the crew cab with the 6.5 ft bed in the 1500 with the 2014 plus models.

I won't be hauling much in the bed so any size bed will pretty much work for what I would haul when needed.

[Zinergy]

I can fit a 4wheeler in the back of mine and close the tailgate so im good to go. My father in law has a 2009 4 door silverado and my bed is just a tad longer...I can tell because if I put fishing rods in the back of my truck, they can only touch one corner but when they are in his, they will touch corner to corner. probably a 3-4 inch difference diagonally but nothing crazy. Mine also feels like it has a little more room in the back seat than his which is weird because you would think his bed would be longer at that point.

That is strange as the ram crew cab is rated at a 5.7ft bed and the sierra/silverado a 5.75ft bed. Maybe the dodge bed is wider???

I ride dirt bikes and they are longer than 4 wheelers. There have been quite a few times where I have used my whole bed and then some. But as I said for most people the sub 6 foot beds handle what they want them to do.

[cam02ss]

2015 3500 Sierra Denali Duramax.

[theorangeguy]

That is strange as the ram crew cab is rated at a 5.7ft bed and the sierra/silverado a 5.75ft bed. Maybe the dodge bed is wider???

I ride dirt bikes and they are longer than 4 wheelers. There have been quite a few times where I have used my whole bed and then some. But as I said for most people the sub 6 foot beds handle what they want them to do.

I could see that being the case because im basing my experience on laying them in from one corner to the other. If I lay them in straight, they will stick out no matter what truck they are in because they are all 6feet or longer. Width could very easily have something to do with it.

[Zinergy]

Nice looking truck, but it is overkill for 90% of personal consumers. It is quite the fad now for people who don't off road, or haul anything big to own diesel trucks. Some say it is for the gas mileage... BS in most situations they don't get any better mpg than the gassers.