Buying a truck, opinions wanted.

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6

I'll have to look at the gross vehicle weight ratio but what I was saying that the most weight I would have including the trailer and everything in it would be 7000 but probably closer to 6500 as the trailers I have been looking at are around 2500 to 3000 pounds. I am new to this trailering stuff so please inform me of all of the considerations that need to be taken into account if I am glazing over something.

If the trailer is 3k and your vehicle is 3500 that is 6500 right there. Without any tools, tires, compressors etc. So I guess it depends on how much stuff you want to load into the trailer.

The tow rating on these trucls might only be 8500-10500 but they can tow a lot more. It just depends on how comfortable you want to be while towing. I tow a 6k camper(when loaded). And when it is windy, or a semi flys by, over decent bumps, or I am going up hill I can definately tell it is back there. I mean my truck tows it fine but not as nice a my buddies 2500HD did when I used it once. It wasn't the power my truck was missing, it was the weight and suspension.

I have a friend who tows a huge enclosed trailer with a stock car and a neon race car. Tires, parts, tools. Thing has to weigh 10-12k. He tows it with his 1999 ford e150. The movement and push and pull just doesn't bother some people as much as others.

**GTP231** · 07-07-2014, 07:54 AM

Talk about a kite going down the road

**** NWS ****
This should settle your decision

**FasstChevys** · 07-07-2014, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6

The Denali is $34000 and the 2012 is $31000 the level of trim for these for a new one would be around $45000 to 50000 lol at least in my area.

I know you can get a HD in a 1500 I just wasn't sure if what makes a 1500 HD could be swapped over to a standard 1500.

My best friend just bought a 2014 1500 LTZ for $34,000. True story. The sticker was $42,700, and with the rebates, etc, etc, he bought it for that price. You could buy a pickup out here, have it shipped out to you for $1,500 bucks and be WAY ahead.

To me, $34K for that truck is a joke, and a rip off - especially for being a 2007.

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by FasstChevys

My best friend just bought a 2014 1500 LTZ for $34,000. True story. The sticker was $42,700, and with the rebates, etc, etc, he bought it for that price. You could buy a pickup out here, have it shipped out to you for $1,500 bucks and be WAY ahead.

To me, $34K for that truck is a joke, and a rip off - especially for being a 2007.

Yep because of DENALI. Those are as he said 50k+ trucks. All the way up to 70k for a diesel with the entertainment package etc.

I do agree though if you can get a brand new 1500 for 34k out the door that is a better deal than a 2012 for 31k or a 2007 for 32k. And you will probably get a better rate as it is brand new.

**98TransAmWs-6** · 07-07-2014, 10:55 AM

I seriously want to know where you are finding them for that. The cheapest I have found is 39k with just the base ltz with no additional options. I would love one of the brand new ones but I currently can't get more than a certain amount of a loan. With the rebates are those applied to the price before the loan?

**theorangeguy** · 07-07-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by FasstChevys

My best friend just bought a 2014 1500 LTZ for $34,000. True story. The sticker was $42,700, and with the rebates, etc, etc, he bought it for that price. You could buy a pickup out here, have it shipped out to you for $1,500 bucks and be WAY ahead.

To me, $34K for that truck is a joke, and a rip off - especially for being a 2007.

get the f*ck out of here!!! damn thats a good deal...

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6

I seriously want to know where you are finding them for that. The cheapest I have found is 39k with just the base ltz with no additional options. I would love one of the brand new ones but I currently can't get more than a certain amount of a loan. With the rebates are those applied to the price before the loan?

If you can wait, wait for truck month sales or fathers day sales or presidents day sales. This is when I see 8k in rebates on new trucks.

**theorangeguy** · 07-07-2014, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

If you can wait, wait for truck month sales or fathers day sales or presidents day sales. This is when I see 8k in rebates on new trucks.

I usually buy at the end of the year. They are willing to do some crazy stuff at year end...plus you can usually get last years model "with no miles" REALLY cheap vs the current model even though the body styles are usually the same.

**FasstChevys** · 07-07-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by theorangeguy

get the f*ck out of here!!! damn thats a good deal...

In my eyes, this is the 'end of the year'........just like Zin said.......the 8K rebates are going on right now since the '15's will be out in ~September.

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 12:30 PM

This past presidents day I almost pulled the trigger on a 2013 Ram express. Quad cab, 4WD, 5.7 liter, 6.5ft bed, tow package. Not too many options past that but with the 8500 off in rebates I could have had a brand new truck for 28k. Too bad it is a dodge and I don't like my vehicles rusting out in 5 years and I hate replacing balljoints. The engine is nice though, 390hp. GM needs a 6.2 liter to make more power than that.

**theorangeguy** · 07-07-2014, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

This past presidents day I almost pulled the trigger on a 2013 Ram express. Quad cab, 4WD, 5.7 liter, 6.5ft bed, tow package. Not too many options past that but with the 8500 off in rebates I could have had a brand new truck for 28k. Too bad it is a dodge and I don't like my vehicles rusting out in 5 years and I hate replacing balljoints. The engine is nice though, 390hp. GM needs a 6.2 liter to make more power than that.

I love my rams...i've owned a few of them. I dont live up north so I cant speak to how they react in the salt winters tho...

this is usually where GTP comes in and blasts the hemi

Right after I posted this I found this article...seems like Ford and Dodge are doing better in salt than GM.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101816931

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 01:17 PM

Not the beds that is for sure. My 2002 silverado is rust free on the body. The frame has some slight surface rust here and there but for the most part is clean.

As for the Hemi, I like the power and the people I know who have them have never had an issue. Some with more than 150k on them. The funny part is they aren't really hemis but god does dodge love to badge them that way. But the 5.3 liter GM uses is really reliable as well.

**98TransAmWs-6** · 07-07-2014, 01:22 PM

I am pricing out a new truck and as a USAA member I get 5k+ discounts it seems I wonder if those stack with any rebates as well. Also all the options confuse me, too many options and too many numbers lol.

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6

I am pricing out a new truck and as a USAA member I get 5k+ discounts it seems I wonder if those stack with any rebates as well. Also all the options confuse me, too many options and too many numbers lol.

Options lists just keep getting bigger. Personally though I don't really like trucks optioned out. I want it to last a long time, they should be family or business workhorses. I hate leather in trucks, dont need a sunroof. Power windows, locks, tow package, a good set of tires and a decent radio is all I really want.

**98TransAmWs-6** · 07-07-2014, 01:39 PM

At a minimum I want power seats, sun roof, rear power window, and a couple other things, the 6.2 would be nice as well. Leather would be nice but isn't necessary right now.

**Zinergy** · 07-07-2014, 01:49 PM

Cloth is so much more comfy. That is the reason I have cloth carpet in my bedrooms and not leather. Power seats are ok but they take to damn long to adjust. Manual seats you just grab ahold of the lever or bar and boom you're done. Maybe they just need to Tim the Tool Man Taylor them and put some bigger motors in those seats for my liking.

**98TransAmWs-6** · 07-07-2014, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

Cloth is so much more comfy. That is the reason I have cloth carpet in my bedrooms and not leather. Power seats are ok but they take to damn long to adjust. Manual seats you just grab ahold of the lever or bar and boom you're done. Maybe they just need to Tim the Tool Man Taylor them and put some bigger motors in those seats for my liking.

I actually like all the features you can have but my charger was fully loaded which is probably why. I do prefer leather over cloth as I like the expensive feel and I have texture issues with some cloth. The power is nice especially for fine tuning adjustments.

I am definitely going to see if I can get a good deal on a new truck or at least explore that option.

**GTP231** · 07-07-2014, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by theorangeguy

I love my rams...i've owned a few of them. I dont live up north so I cant speak to how they react in the salt winters tho...

this is usually where GTP comes in and blasts the hemi

Right after I posted this I found this article...seems like Ford and Dodge are doing better in salt than GM.

GM resists more recalls

You see what you see when working in the service department. Since you called me out

**98TransAmWs-6** · 07-08-2014, 09:07 AM

Damn I found a 2014 red Ltz for 35k out in Tacoma Washington and another for 38k in Texas. These are just what they are listing them for too prior to negotiation. I am hoping I can get into one of those or similar and have it shipped here.

**FasstChevys** · 07-08-2014, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6

Damn I found a 2014 red Ltz for 35k out in Tacoma Washington and another for 38k in Texas. These are just what they are listing them for too prior to negotiation. I am hoping I can get into one of those or similar and have it shipped here.

Two other places to check are Jeff Belzer's Chevrolet in Lakeville,MN, and Rydell Chevrolet in Grand Forks, ND.