Needing help

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 08:28 AM

My o2z28 wouldn't start at all..let it set all weekend and to day it started but the service engine light its on (not the check engine soon light it hasnt came on at all..doesn't even light up now), the abs light, and air bag light and the tack nor the fuel gauge work. They did for just a min then quit. Any suggestions or help would be very appreciated..

**Smittro** · 12-28-2011, 08:42 AM

You car only has a one SES (service engine soon) light, there's no "check engine light"..

I would start with the Battery as the most logical place to start.

Pull it out and run it down to your local Auto Parts, they'll usually load test them for free.

Clean up the terminals of any corrosion or grim. Replace the batt. if need be.

If the problem persists let us know what it's doing from there..

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 11:11 AM

It isn't the Battery cause its now in my Trans am and im driving it fine no problems.my bad service engine soon....but that one isnt on the service engine light is...

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 11:28 AM

Also checked the terminals there fine and clean.pcm maybe...bcm....not sure.screaching my head on this one.

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 11:29 AM

It does have se light two I can take pics our video if it may help

**Smittro** · 12-28-2011, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by wesleyblankenship

It does have se light two I can take pics our video if it may help

ya take some pics if you can because you're losing me here..

The "Service Engine Soon" light is on??

My 01 Camaro only had one "service engine soon light" the other was a "check guages" light..

I can show you pics of all the lights if needed.

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 12:06 PM

The light is right at the bottom of the tack
I will send I PiC in. a few

**wesleyblankenship** · 12-28-2011, 12:36 PM

I had never seen out either tell now.

**DaddySS** · 12-28-2011, 12:40 PM

If you put the battery in the transam and it works, then we can assume battery and charging OK. If the car wouldn't start either the terminals were loose, or starter relay, starter, etc. have a problem. If it started after sitting, but now lights are on, then they may be related to the original no start. put the battery back in the Camaro and tell us what happens when it starts or doesn't.

**wesleyblankenship** · 01-06-2012, 09:13 AM

Here are some pics of the light that are on.ignore the hatch light for out was open.sorry it took a couple of days holidays had me tied up.

***SMWS6TA*** · 01-06-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by wesleyblankenship

Here are some pics of the light that are on.ignore the hatch light for out was open.sorry it took a couple of days holidays had me tied up.

Is these pics with the motor on or is the key turned to ACC without the motor running?

**wesleyblankenship** · 01-06-2012, 11:03 AM

Motor on and running

**Smittro** · 01-06-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by wesleyblankenship

Motor on and running

WOW! That's a lot of lights.. I don't even know where to start with that..

***SMWS6TA*** · 01-06-2012, 12:12 PM

That's why I asked, his oil pressure and Voltage are showing normal while running, but the fuel gauge looks like it is empty, & the rpm and water looks dead. Have you stepped outside to check the lights?

To me it looks like you have a wire short or a dead fuse. I had the same thing (wire short) happen before in an old truck. I turn the lights on everything died, turned them off everything fine.

I doubt it is the BCM because that usually effects windows and radio. I haven't heard of it knocking out the gauge cluster.

Have you done any work recently or near the time you first had the problem come up? Did you jump the battery?

**Smittro** · 01-06-2012, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by SMWS6TA

That's why I asked, his oil pressure and Voltage are showing normal while running, but the fuel gauge looks like it is empty, & the rpm and water looks dead. Have you stepped outside to check the lights?

To me it looks like you have a wire short or a dead fuse. I had the same thing (wire short) happen before in an old truck. I turn the lights on everything died, turned them off everything fine.

I doubt it is the BCM because that usually effects windows and radio. I haven't heard of it knocking out the gauge cluster.

Have you done any work recently or near the time you first had the problem come up? Did you jump the battery?

IDK even the oil presure looks high for idle unless it's cold..

**wesleyblankenship** · 01-06-2012, 02:23 PM

It was cold start....i'm wondering if the mod ticking the wires threw the Fender may have cause this but they were that away when I got it...I just put a pcm in it about 2 months ago...all at once it started ruining like shit and seat like 14 codes... It is running rough right now and idle is way high. The day before this happened my upper radiator house sprung a leak and shot coolant every where...do you think that could have caused any problems. See I was thinking maybe coolant got into the pcm by chance..thank for the help by the way.

***SMWS6TA*** · 01-06-2012, 02:59 PM

The pcm - do you know what it came out of? Was it tune for your car? If you have a bad tune or say a tune for a truck then yeah you could have major issues. Also the PCM's are different through the years. Coolant on the pcm maybe, but if the pcm had been soaked it would have been fried.

**wesleyblankenship** · 01-07-2012, 07:28 AM

The tune was right..I used the shop tech 2 and downloaded the program straight from GM for my car..I was working at a GM dealer..just left thow. Allthe parts are GM and for the car. so now that's ruled out...were to start checking from here i'm lost and not sure what I need to do next.maybe borrow a tech2 from the shop.check communication with everything and codes maybe....