Mt-2012 boss 302

**Zinergy** · 03-09-2011, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Schmalgar

Who blasts the solid axle in the F-body? Corvette people? Does the Vette have an IRS? Most people on, say, the Mustang forums that have Cobras with an IRS talk about swapping them out for a solid axle, as it's faster off the line. Which is fine if all you want is to drive in a straight line. But having driven both my WS6 and Cobra over the same twisting mountain roads, I am all about the comfort and control of the IRS over the straight line speed of the solid axle. It's a very noticeable difference in the turns.

Basically everyone who isnt into American muscle cars. Import tuners, ricers, european high end cars owners. I have owned a few imports and been on quite a few forums and everyone who doesnt own american talks shit about live axle. Live axle works great when your on a nice even race track but on road courses and real world roads IRS def has an advantage.

**Schmalgar** · 03-09-2011, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

Basically everyone who isnt into American muscle cars. Import tuners, ricers, european high end cars owners.

Ahh. The ignorant and the arrogant. Gotcha...

I'd certainly take this Boss, or my WS6 of course, over any of the normal import tuners/ricers, and most Euros.

**Zinergy** · 03-09-2011, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Schmalgar

Ahh. The ignorant and the arrogant. Gotcha...

I'd certainly take this Boss, or my WS6 of course, over any of the normal import tuners/ricers, and most Euros.

Same here, i think japanese companies now that they have established themselves are getting away from performance cars. The only performance jap car left is the GTR and STI and subaru is more american than most american cars with factorys in the US and cars designed for the US that you cnat get in Japan. Oh and the lexus LFA 500,000 dollar car lol. No more s2k, no more rx7, supra, the evo will not be created anymore after the EVO Xs run out.

**Transamws6** · 03-09-2011, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by jetaws6

Im suprised they did this while staying na. Gonna pull like hell with a blower on it

Yup, I agree. And to add, these cars have very potent N/A motors. They respond to mods extremely well.

**blue02Z** · 03-09-2011, 01:08 PM

I was on kenne bell website the other day and if i remember correctly they had a new 5.0 on 8psi put 595hp to the wheels

**Zinergy** · 03-09-2011, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by blue02Z

I was on kenne bell website the other day and if i remember correctly they had a new 5.0 on 8psi put 595hp to the wheels

Close, the 595whp was 94 octane at 10psi.

91 octane at 8psi was 550whp.

Still damn impressive

**Transamws6** · 03-09-2011, 01:18 PM

Yup, you also had this one that made 507rwhp with bolt-on's, Boss Intake Manifold, Stage 1 heads, Stage 1 cams, all on 93 octane. Which is just crazy for a Mustang, these are LSX type numbers that this car has put down. Sounds super, super sick too.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdcOqkpKmug[/ame]

**jetaws6** · 03-09-2011, 01:46 PM

lolz at the comments on youtube about this vid

**mbrownin** · 03-09-2011, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

Ha, good catch, I didn't even realize that.

Although, I don't think there were any huge changes from when the C6 Z's first came out in '06 until now. Only ones I can think of are..... a better transmission in '07 or '08, a better steering rack and a better interior, that's about it if I remember correctly, that's all I think they've changed over the years. I could definitely be wrong though so I'm gonna need you to go ahead and correct me if I am.

Also, I'm really not surprised the Carbon's faster. I mean, I'd expect it to be for the amount of money you have to pay for one. Those things are almost in ZR1 territory price wise.

Don't remember the details, but the suspension has been tweaked since '06.

**blue02Z** · 03-09-2011, 06:18 PM

yeah agreed, these new 5.0s are a defintite threat. now especially when modded. hahahhahahaha i remember when all the tight asses on here were saying that they are stretched to the limit stock and bolts ons and such wont net a whole lotta hp.

**TLS_Addict** · 03-09-2011, 06:38 PM

I am a fan of the new 5.0.

Still wouldnt pay over 30k for a Mustang, unless its a 60s or early 70s.

**allbaugh_04** · 03-09-2011, 06:39 PM

31. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X MR 1:47.71 120 '08 295 / 1585 MotorTrend 32. Chevrolet Cobalt SS/TC 1:47.75 120 '08 260 / 1352 Motor Trend

**Transamws6** · 03-09-2011, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by blue02Z

yeah agreed, these new 5.0s are a defintite threat. now especially when modded. hahahhahahaha i remember when all the tight asses on here were saying that they are stretched to the limit stock and bolts ons and such wont net a whole lotta hp.

I remember that huge battle that went on between everybody last year. I was one of the very few people on here who knew early on that the 5.0 would respond to both FI and N/A applications well and EVERYONE tried to flame me for it. Funny how things turned out in the end

**allbaugh_04** · 03-09-2011, 06:59 PM

I'm not sure what you mean...the 5.0 blows ass

**blue02Z** · 03-09-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

I remember that huge battle that went on between everybody last year. I was one of the very few people on here who knew early on that the 5.0 would respond to both FI and N/A applications well and EVERYONE tried to flame me for it. Funny how things turned out in the end

yep, you and me both ole son.

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

I'm not sure what you mean...the 5.0 blows ass

haha yeah blows your ass

hhahahaha

**allbaugh_04** · 03-09-2011, 07:09 PM

You know about tossing salad brah?

**justinmc978** · 03-09-2011, 07:11 PM

it's great that Ford has a new staple motor, a motor worth modifying and getting more aftermarket support than the 4.6 will ever dream of... But, as far as applicability and cost to modify, simple pushrod LS- motors still remain the most universal and cost effective imo..

I think recently they've just fallen out of popularity because a) obviously the competant new Ford alternative and b) of the fat car they dwell in.

**Transamws6** · 03-09-2011, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

it's great that Ford has a new staple motor, a motor worth modifying and getting more aftermarket support than the 4.6 will ever dream of... But, as far as applicability and cost to modify, simple pushrod LS- motors still remain the most universal and cost effective imo..

I think recently they've just fallen out of popularity because a) obviously the competant new Ford alternative and b) of the fat car they dwell in.

I don't know, not sure if they have fallen out of popularity too much just yet. The 5th gens have been selling really well so far.

And honestly, I can agree on the fact that the LSX motors are universal, mostly everyone in the car community knows what they're capable of.

But, as for the cost, I'm not sure, it's about the same as what you would have to pay for the same mods on the comparable LS motor. For example, the GT built by JPC racing in that video, it was like $2400 for the H/C if I remember correctly. Everything else done to the car is about the same price as the LSX. The Boss intake costs just about the same as a FAST 90/90, and the bolt on's are about the same price as well. The only real price difference is the fact that you need 4 cams versus just one in the LSX.

**justinmc978** · 03-09-2011, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

I don't know, not sure if they have fallen out of popularity too much just yet. The 5th gens have been selling really well so far.

there was a time not too many years ago that even the most diehard Ford guys gave the LS- motors at least a little respect, but now it seems they look upon by them as a modern day 305; old garbage that is entirely incompetant the new 'god' motor, the 5.0. and the lighter and sleeker Mustang it resides in only turns their noses up higher.

The only real price difference is the fact that you need 4 cams versus just one in the LSX.

that was what I meant to get at, in addition you need to install all four cams too, adding to the cost a shop will charge you, or the time and difficulty it takes you to do it yourself.

**FasstChevys** · 03-09-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Transamws6

I don't know, not sure if they have fallen out of popularity too much just yet. The 5th gens have been selling really well so far.

And honestly, I can agree on the fact that the LSX motors are universal, mostly everyone in the car community knows what they're capable of.

But, as for the cost, I'm not sure, it's about the same as what you would have to pay for the same mods on the comparable LS motor. For example, the GT built by JPC racing in that video, it was like $2400 for the H/C if I remember correctly. Everything else done to the car is about the same price as the LSX. The Boss intake costs just about the same as a FAST 90/90, and the bolt on's are about the same price as well. The only real price difference is the fact that you need 4 cams versus just one in the LSX.

As far as cost goes - I'll stay with my big block Chevy and old technology in my '68 Camaro - I'll take my chances on that end of it.