Camaro gets knocked off it's throne....

**Firebirdjones** · 05-02-2010, 07:31 PM

**Superluminal** · 05-02-2010, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by 2005sti

You are suchhhhhh a fanboy which is sad because I'm sure you're at 25 years old

**justinmc978** · 05-02-2010, 11:07 PM

i give up, i tried.

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 05:39 AM

evolution performance took delivery of their production 2011 mustang.

it ran 13.2 @ 110. 2.1 60'

so is it quick? yes. is it a camaro killer? well, an l99 for sure. but against an ls3 it will be very close.

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 05:42 AM

it dyno'd 365 rwhp and 352 rwtq

hp is nice, the torque is lacking.

**allbaugh_04** · 05-03-2010, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

evolution performance took delivery of their production 2011 mustang.

it ran 13.2 @ 110. 2.1 60'

so is it quick? yes. is it a camaro killer? well, an l99 for sure. but against an ls3 it will be very close.

Well another forum said it ran 12.8 with 2.0.....through evolution performance

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

Well another forum said it ran 12.8 with 2.0.....through evolution performance

unless they went back and tried again, which i'm not aware that they did

forums.themustangsource.com/showthread.php?t=482618&page=3

link to the thread on the 13.2 run ^^^

i know they got into the 12's once they started modding they car. i'm unaware of a stock 12.8 run by them but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 06:27 AM

the stang also has a significant gearing advantage. 3:73's out back, and a pretty agressive transmission

Camaro: Gear Ratio:1/MPH Per 1000rpm/Max speed in gear
1 3.01 / 7.9 / 52
2 2.07/ 11.6 / 77
3 1.43 / 16.7 / 110
4 1.00/ 23.9 / 157
5 0.84/ 28.5 / 157
6 0.57/ 42/ 157

Mustang: Gear Ratio:1/MPH Per 1000rpm/Max speed in gear
1 3.66/ 5.8/ 40
2 2.43/ 8.7/ 60
3 1.69/ 12.51/ 86
4 1.32/ 16/ 110
5 1.00/ 21.1/ 146
6 0.65/ 32.4/ 146

**shady milkman** · 05-03-2010, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

i give up, i tried.

why try...after 1000 threads on this..all posting up mag stats and guesses with little to no real racing taking place...what need/ new information do these threads give us.

**shady milkman** · 05-03-2010, 06:41 AM

ehh this is all a bunch internet racing...i dont car what any mags say really..i will wait until the new 5.0s are on the market and real drivers are cutting ETs

**BLKCLOUD** · 05-03-2010, 07:46 AM

It's a "Kills Forum". Everything in here should be considered "internet racing" and taken with - at best - a huge grain of salt.

**SSTODD** · 05-03-2010, 07:56 AM

car&driver has a new comparo (both 6-speed manuals), 13.0 for the SS and 13.2 for the 5.0stang. These cars are a very close drivers race so far with the magazines.

**dav-02ws6-m6** · 05-03-2010, 08:23 AM

yeap it seems to depend on who ever is testing. some will say they are running 12.8. I don't remember where but i saw that the mustang was running in the low 13s...

**shady milkman** · 05-03-2010, 09:12 AM

another reason i cant stand mag testing ..is no matter what..they do these ridiculously large burnouts on stock tires like street tires like heat

**BLKCLOUD** · 05-03-2010, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

it dyno'd 365 rwhp and 352 rwtq

hp is nice, the torque is lacking.

Do you understand the relationship between Torque and HP?

Pro Stock Drag Cars (as in, NHRA Pro Stock...those N/A cars that run mid-high 6's) are lacking torque, too, compared to HP. I wonder why?

**justinmc978** · 05-03-2010, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

Do you understand the relationship between Torque and HP?

Pro Stock Drag Cars (as in, NHRA Pro Stock...those N/A cars that run mid-high 6's) are lacking torque, too, compared to HP. I wonder why?

because they dont weigh anything..?

**danziger** · 05-03-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

Do you understand the relationship between Torque and HP?

Pro Stock Drag Cars (as in, NHRA Pro Stock...those N/A cars that run mid-high 6's) are lacking torque, too, compared to HP. I wonder why?

Because it lessens the shock to the tires out of the hole? Because you don't need as much torque when launching at 5000+RPM? Because it is an apples to oranges comparison? What, man? Please tell us...

**shady milkman** · 05-03-2010, 11:08 AM

horsepower is calculated by torque and rpm ... torque is force or energy and horsepower is power...horsepower is what keeps the vehicle in motion. as to the relation to the pro stocks...i don't know

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

Do you understand the relationship between Torque and HP?

Pro Stock Drag Cars (as in, NHRA Pro Stock...those N/A cars that run mid-high 6's) are lacking torque, too, compared to HP. I wonder why?

do you understand the relationship between torque and hp?

why do we have two cars here with nearly identical HP--- one is lighter with alot more agressive gearing-- yet they run the same times and speeds?

**big hammer** · 05-03-2010, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

ehh this is all a bunch internet racing...i dont car what any mags say really..i will wait until the new 5.0s are on the market and real drivers are cutting ETs

word--- it will be interesting. someone will cut a 12.6 for sure.

the real story is the trap speed. 110-111 for both cars.

ET? who knows for sure. the stang may have the advantage out of the hole if it can hook up, but it's transmission gears are aggressive too so that may throw an extra shift in there.