LS2 GTos vs 5th gen SS..

**mark21742** · 02-10-2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by cammed goat

I watched that episode. I still wonder why Joe used shorties instead of long tube headers.

Probably used the shorties to keep the cats n stock location (50 state legal)

**cammed goat** · 02-10-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

Probably used the shorties to keep the cats n stock location (50 state legal)

True. Cheaper too. Just looked on eBay. Shorties are cheaper than LTs.

**Texas Jack** · 02-11-2010, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by derbs

Texas speeds 2010 ss dyno numbers were 370 rwhp and 334 rwtq

derbs, I don't know, dynos can dissapoint or put on top of the world, think their all a bit different, MHI.

**Texas Jack** · 02-11-2010, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

I think we also have to include the 2011 Mustang GT .. I drove a 2010 and its a great car .. Now give that car another 100HP ,prob even more with a CAI and a tune ... Not that I wold get one till they are out for a while , but I would say the same of he SS...

I saw that 2011 will go back to the 5.0 platform, about time 4.6 didn't do the job. The 5.0 will be 411hp from what I heard and believe it has a 400-500 # weight advantage.

**snaggeltooth** · 02-11-2010, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Texas Jack

I saw that 2011 will go back to the 5.0 platform, about time 4.6 didn't do the job. The 5.0 will be 411hp from what I heard and believe it has a 400-500 # weight advantage.

its still the point I was kinda making in my 5.0 thread .. If someone is looking at a 2011 GT , you dont have to say " yea but is so down on power from the SS" ...

**mark21742** · 02-11-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Texas Jack

derbs, I don't know, dynos can dissapoint or put on top of the world, think their all a bit different, MHI.

Yup that's why the dyno shouldn't be used for anything but a tuning device and the track used to show true power

**cammed goat** · 02-11-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

Yup that's why the dyno shouldn't be used for anything but a tuning device and the track used to show true power

Yup. If ya can't hook or wear out your diff(me) then you have power.

**derbs** · 02-11-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Texas Jack

derbs, I don't know, dynos can dissapoint or put on top of the world, think their all a bit different, MHI.

I think if we wait on someone to dyno a 2010 ss when the engine is broken in the numbers will be lil higher. other then the numbers its turning out to be a damn good car and with ford upping the GT maybe we'll see another muscle car war????

**snaggeltooth** · 02-11-2010, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by derbs

I think if we wait on someone to dyno a 2010 ss when the engine is broken in the numbers will be lil higher. other then the numbers its turning out to be a damn good car and with ford upping the GT maybe we'll see another muscle car war????

true a engine runs a little different after it is good and broke in .. I dont know if you can have a WAR with just 2 players .. You can say the Challenger , but a RT is no match for either the SS or the GT and a SRT is way more expensive .. Now if you could op for a SRT engine in a RT .. then ..,WOW ..

**mark21742** · 02-11-2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

true a engine runs a little different after it is good and broke in .. I dont know if you can have a WAR with just 2 players .. You can say the Challenger , but a RT is no match for either the SS or the GT and a SRT is way more expensive .. Now if you could op for a SRT engine in a RT .. then ..,WOW ..

How about an SRT engine in a Crossfire... Now that would be a performer

**snaggeltooth** · 02-11-2010, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

How about an SRT engine in a Crossfire... Now that would be a performer

will have to get out the plasma cutter ...

**mark21742** · 02-11-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

will have to get out the plasma cutter ...

Or all out power to weight ratio, lsx powered Honda s2000

**snaggeltooth** · 02-11-2010, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

Or all out power to weight ratio, lsx powered Honda s2000

lsx 300zx

**slims00ls1z28** · 02-12-2010, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Texas Jack

I saw that 2011 will go back to the 5.0 platform, about time 4.6 didn't do the job. The 5.0 will be 411hp from what I heard and believe it has a 400-500 # weight advantage.

Weight on the new stang will be about 3500-3600+ from what I've read so more like a 200-400 max weight advantage. I'm still calling drivers race on it 411 HP at 7K(ish) RPM's.

**snaggeltooth** · 02-12-2010, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28

Weight on the new stang will be about 3500-3600+ from what I've read so more like a 200-400 max weight advantage. I'm still calling drivers race on it 411 HP at 7K(ish) RPM's.

I agree.. And thats all I ever wanted .. A fair race ... BUT... What I meant more in this thread was more car vs car .. not as much as engine vs engine ...

**mark21742** · 02-12-2010, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

I agree.. And thats all I ever wanted .. A fair race ... BUT... What I meant more in this thread was more car vs car .. not as much as engine vs engine ...

That's the only problem, there are so many varibles.

In a perfect comparisonid say give both cars the same exact wheel/tire combo, do a few 1/4 mile runs, road course and then a few more 1/4s... Maybe even hook the drivers up to sensors to see true comfort, stresses, pressure points and fautige on the the drive him/her self.

I've seen and driven some straitout rockets, but if driving it near it's potential is too harsh for the driver to handle it looses the "fun" factor

**snaggeltooth** · 02-12-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

That's the only problem, there are so many varibles.

In a perfect comparisonid say give both cars the same exact wheel/tire combo, do a few 1/4 mile runs, road course and then a few more 1/4s... Maybe even hook the drivers up to sensors to see true comfort, stresses, pressure points and fautige on the the drive him/her self.

I've seen and driven some straitout rockets, but if driving it near it's potential is too harsh for the driver to handle it looses the "fun" factor

Its also about .. What do you see when you look at the cars .. to me the SS just looks like a car that I really dont want .. the front end just looks to fat.. It is a LOT closer between the GTO and a GT .. GTO say business ,kinda compromised look, GT just says fun and cool...

**mark21742** · 02-12-2010, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

Its also about .. What do you see when you look at the cars .. to me the SS just looks like a car that I really dont want .. the front end just looks to fat.. It is a LOT closer between the GTO and a GT .. GTO say business ,kinda compromised look, GT just says fun and cool...

I agree, the GT definately looks better IMO than the SS, but out of the 3 I loke the look of the GTO the best

**snaggeltooth** · 02-12-2010, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by mark21742

I agree, the GT definately looks better IMO than the SS, but out of the 3 I loke the look of the GTO the best

from what i have seen with the 2010 GT .. it is a much better looking car in the darker colors ...

**Texas Jack** · 02-12-2010, 07:03 PM

I don't know about you all but to me the LS is a force to be dealt with and will be a contender for some time. The Camero SS is nice but not as nice as the GTO, and the GT is ok, but when it comes done to it it is all about how much $ you want throw at it.