Keep extra eye on ur firebirds pics inside =(

**Sailor** · 11-15-2009, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by FutureWS6

kbb doesnt say its worth that much unless its retail or private selling

While I realize so many on the internet use KBB I would suggest you also look up your cars value on http://www.nada.com

NADA guides are what have always been used for decades by car dealers, motor vehicle departments, insurance companies, auctions etc and you will find that the NADA values take into consideration things such as mileage and that the values will be in most instances higher than KBB. Many motor vehicle departments use the official NADA guide in the event you come to register a newly purchased used car and present a real low bill of sale to try and get out of paying full sales tax. I swear that KBB is in bed with many as they list really low values so dealers can show a potential customer their trade for example isn't worth much...when in fact if the person would have checked NADA guide they would find out their vehicle is indeed worth more.

So before the fools insurance company contacts you do yourself a favor and see if NADA value is higher than KBB. Just be sure you use the CONSUMER section of NADA and best of all, it is free to look up most vehicles.

Good luck and great they caught the creep.

**FutureWS6** · 11-15-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sailor

While I realize so many on the internet use KBB I would suggest you also look up your cars value on http://www.nada.com

NADA guides are what have always been used for decades by car dealers, motor vehicle departments, insurance companies, auctions etc and you will find that the NADA values take into consideration things such as mileage and that the values will be in most instances higher than KBB. Many motor vehicle departments use the official NADA guide in the event you come to register a newly purchased used car and present a real low bill of sale to try and get out of paying full sales tax. I swear that KBB is in bed with many as they list really low values so dealers can show a potential customer their trade for example isn't worth much...when in fact if the person would have checked NADA guide they would find out their vehicle is indeed worth more.

So before the fools insurance company contacts you do yourself a favor and see if NADA value is higher than KBB. Just be sure you use the CONSUMER section of NADA and best of all, it is free to look up most vehicles.

Good luck and great they caught the creep.

Tyvm, i will do that right now

**bberretta** · 11-16-2009, 11:43 AM

Is your insurance involved in this? Here's why: If your insurance company is fighting on your side, they will often try to get what the car is worth rather than just get out of having to pay you. Totaling a vehicle means that damage exceeds 75% of the vehicle's overall value. I would have to say that from the damage I can see, you're looking at at least $3k and that is at the very least with used parts- new parts will push it well over the vehicle's value. If the interior is in good shape, the tires in good shape (minus the damage caused by the wreck) and the paint in overall good shape, you'll get a fair price on it.

**FutureWS6** · 11-16-2009, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by bberretta

Is your insurance involved in this? Here's why: If your insurance company is fighting on your side, they will often try to get what the car is worth rather than just get out of having to pay you. Totaling a vehicle means that damage exceeds 75% of the vehicle's overall value. I would have to say that from the damage I can see, you're looking at at least $3k and that is at the very least with used parts- new parts will push it well over the vehicle's value. If the interior is in good shape, the tires in good shape (minus the damage caused by the wreck) and the paint in overall good shape, you'll get a fair price on it.

I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.

http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii8/smrochin/

**cammed goat** · 11-16-2009, 01:22 PM

SHEISSE!!! Even the outer tie rod snapped!!! How fkkin fast were they goin?

**FutureWS6** · 11-16-2009, 01:29 PM

they think 50 in a 25 zone

**35th-ANV-SS** · 11-16-2009, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by FutureWS6

I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.

http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii8/smrochin/

I would take it to the most expensive shop you know of....

This way you have a better chance of them totaling your car out.

**supercopone** · 11-16-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS

I would take it to the most expensive shop you know of....

This way you have a better chance of them totaling your car out.

thats what I would do and then get a Z28 cause them damn t/a's are way to high....

**cammed goat** · 11-16-2009, 02:39 PM

Ah, I see you are TX...welp...so is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-...item20ae200fe4

**supercopone** · 11-16-2009, 04:09 PM

Thats a clean one....I wish I 12 g's laying around

**35th-ANV-SS** · 11-16-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by supercopone

Thats a clean one....I wish I 12 g's laying around

Anyone with a 2001 WS6 with 134K miles on it and says he never raced it is a fawking LIAR!!!!

IMO of course

**supercopone** · 11-16-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS

Anyone with a 2001 WS6 with 134K miles on it and says he never raced it is a fawking LIAR!!!!

IMO of course

You know thats right..lol

**bberretta** · 11-16-2009, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by FutureWS6

I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.

http://s260.photobucket.com/albums/ii8/smrochin/

Most likely they will need it in a shop in order to do a full assessment of it. In case they need to jack it up, put it on a lift, etc. This is pretty typical. My dad is an appraiser and when I was a kid I used to go look at cars with him and he taught me a thing or two about the process. When my wife totaled our Lancer (which is when I found my excuse to buy the TA

) I had the car delivered to my house to avoid shop storage charges just in case it wasn't totaled. The insurance company then required that I send it to their shop at which time you clean EVERYTHING out of it and clean up the interior a little (shiny wheels and clean interior show that a car has been well cared for). When they totaled it, I sent the title and they sent the check.

**FutureWS6** · 11-16-2009, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by bberretta

Most likely they will need it in a shop in order to do a full assessment of it. In case they need to jack it up, put it on a lift, etc. This is pretty typical. My dad is an appraiser and when I was a kid I used to go look at cars with him and he taught me a thing or two about the process. When my wife totaled our Lancer (which is when I found my excuse to buy the TA

) I had the car delivered to my house to avoid shop storage charges just in case it wasn't totaled. The insurance company then required that I send it to their shop at which time you clean EVERYTHING out of it and clean up the interior a little (shiny wheels and clean interior show that a car has been well cared for). When they totaled it, I sent the title and they sent the check.

Dang ur right i should clean it extra nice tomorrow. thats a good idea.

Originally Posted by supercopone

thats what I would do and then get a Z28 cause them damn t/a's are way to high....

No doubt im getting one, i got some money saved up. if i couldnt get one i liked then i was thinking 350z as a last resort...i know i know ls1 kills it. but yes i would upgrade to a v8 4 sure if they did that, was thinking of selling or trading it b4 i got hit 4 a ls1.

**Itllrun** · 11-17-2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by supercopone

makes me sick, how does that sorry ass sleep at night

Easy he was probably drunk....

**FutureWS6** · 11-17-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Itllrun

Easy he was probably drunk....

which they had caught him the night of, the officers were looking for him like crazy.

**wooddaniel** · 11-17-2009, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by FutureWS6

which they had caught him the night of, the officers were looking for him like crazy.

Sorry for your luck bud. Good luck getting a new bird.

**GTP231** · 11-18-2009, 06:54 AM

Its totaled. Most companies pay you retail value iirc

**FutureWS6** · 11-18-2009, 08:13 AM

Update, the other party is not accepting that they did it even with all the evidence the police has. so their insurance will not do anything until we do something. so im probly gonna have to file with my insurance and make them deal with the others insurance. it sucks