my boss gripe thread

**Modulistic** · 11-11-2009, 04:10 PM

uh, if I pulled some tires and the brakes looked like shit and the boss didnt give a fuck, Id be like "yo, your brakes are fucked. buy the parts and give me 70 bucks and come over to my house tonite. with beer."

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Not for nothing, but from what I learned, an employer at an auto shop always NEEDS you to a point..... Till they find another warm body to fill your spot. With the economy the way it is, theres plenty of guys that need jobs that are willing to take yours. I totally understand sticking up for yourself and not letting a boss walk all over you, but I would be careful about how far I pushed it if i were you. Are you like the lead tech in the shop? Unless you are the guy doing all the big jobs and banging out 70 hrs a week, with a wife and kids i'd be more careful bro

no he NEEDS me,let me explain.While I am not the lead tech I see more of a car than them.for example if a car comes in for an oil change and rotation.I check the belts hoses look at the milage and see if it is due for a tune up,timing belt ect. when I lift it i wiggle or try to anyway the wheels to see if there is play. when the wheels are off i check the brakes, brake lines ,axel boots look for bent parts and so on. I can not tell you how much money I have made for the techs and boss because of this. I was trained by my boss's BEST tech at a different store so I know what to look for,what to reccomend on certain cars at certain milage. If it was left to the techs some of the jobs wouldn't be reccomended. I don't know if it is laziness,or they don't like doing them or what. without me though there was many weeks the techs would be standing around with their thumbs up their asses costing the boss money thus causing me not to get a raise.

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Dude that doesnt even make sense. Not only is it a moral thing, brakes are the easiest bread and butter job a shop and mechanic can have. Easy fucking money. Why the hell wouldnt you wanna sell brakes? Any time you get authorization to pull wheels you should be looking at the brakes. Be proactive, get yourself some easy hours. Your boss has the worst business accumen i've ever heard of if he has a problem recommending a brake job. Like you said, if you dont say anything and they crash, gets who's ass is now on the line? Not the customers, not your bosses. YOURS!

they are strange ,no offence to the ladies here but their minds changes more than a womans when she is picking clothes to wear for a date. one day they want you to look for anything and everything the next is get it in and out don't look for anything.that can also be by the hour or minute. That is why cammed and I wrote every damn thing we seen down, to cover our asses.to an extent I hated that because the boss is caniving enough to use that to cover his ass as well.

**cammed goat** · 11-11-2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Modulistic

uh, if I pulled some tires and the brakes looked like shit and the boss didnt give a fuck, Id be like "yo, your brakes are fucked. buy the parts and give me 70 bucks and come over to my house tonite. with beer."

I guess I suffer from the guardian angel syndrome. One morning I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee on my lift for an oil change and tire rotation. The front rotors were severely grooved and the pads were completely gone. Top it all off with a "BABY ON BOARD" sign on the back window and I ran up front and told the boss in front of the customer. Boss came back and looked and told me he "didn't think the brakes were that bad" then I showed him the sign on the back window and he quickly changed his tune. It was like my word meant squat there.

**Modulistic** · 11-11-2009, 04:23 PM

I predict a lot more people are going to be learning how to turn a wrench in the near future. who the fuck cant even change brakes?

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Modulistic

uh, if I pulled some tires and the brakes looked like shit and the boss didnt give a fuck, Id be like "yo, your brakes are fucked. buy the parts and give me 70 bucks and come over to my house tonite. with beer."

done stuff simular.My wifes friend had a ford exploder that I had to do ball joints(yea cammed the one I smashed my thumb on and you laughed until you seen I was gushing blood ) ,tires,and 4wheel drive service to. stuff that would have been hard to do in my driveway. meanwhile she also needed shocks,oil change,a gas cap(kept throwing the check engine light on)air filter brakes ,and some other stuff. I kept my mouth shut until my lunch then called up her husband and told him what it needed besides what it was there for. he asked how much I said whatever it costs you for parts plus my labor which will be a hella lot cheaper than doing it here. we sat up a day and time and I went and done everything that was left in a few hours and he tossed me a 150 bucks.

done it with a few others cars as well,when money is tight and the boy has needs there is no shame

**cammed goat** · 11-11-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Modulistic

I predict a lot more people are going to be learning how to turn a wrench in the near future. who the fuck cant even change brakes?

From what I heard, companies are closing their accounts with him and going to other shops. I refused to let a car out of my bay without the customer knowing the condition of their vehicle. Hell, that shop doesn't even have liability waiver forms, which the boss told me he would get, but he never did.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by cammed goat

I guess I suffer from the guardian angel syndrome. One morning I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee on my lift for an oil change and tire rotation. The front rotors were severely grooved and the pads were completely gone. Top it all off with a "BABY ON BOARD" sign on the back window and I ran up front and told the boss in front of the customer. Boss came back and looked and told me he "didn't think the brakes were that bad" then I showed him the sign on the back window and he quickly changed his tune. It was like my word meant squat there.

what about the exploder that has 2 baby seats in the back that the entire front end was ready to fall off,the brakes were gone and the tires was so dryrotted they were ready to explode. that we kept getting in. The thing about that was the boss tried ,but the customer refused. Someone made a phonecall

next time I seen it it was all done

**cammed goat** · 11-11-2009, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

what about the exploder that has 2 baby seats in the back that the entire front end was ready to fall off,the brakes were gone and the tires was so dryrotted they were ready to explode. that we kept getting in. The thing about that was the boss tried ,but the customer refused. Someone made a phonecall

next time I seen it it was all done

Yup. I would rather be fired for being honest with the customers than keeping my mouth shut and letting an unsafe car back out on the roads. I remember when the boss screamed at me for "costing him money". He has NO conscience. I told him if anyone came back with a news crew I was pointing him out. He told me I wouldn't and I told him "HELLO...ASPIRING L.E.O!!!" and he tried to talk trash about law enforcement...then the ret'd USMC/LEO got in his @$$. That was epic.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

I can see it now , partying with spaz both of us yapping a mile a minute. no one could follow or keep up with our conversation, because we change subject so quick and the switch back.Yet make perfect sense to each other.

add alot of alcohol and or coffee we will be running around trying to tackle bears and deer for dinner or throwing unsuspecting party attendees in the pool. starting with cammed. taking cammeds car for a quick joyride. all sorts of fun chit

**310stanger** · 11-11-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Modulistic

I predict a lot more people are going to be learning how to turn a wrench in the near future. who the fuck cant even change brakes?

Dude not everybody is a car guy. You'd be surprised how many people dont know where the fuck their air filter is. The lack of knowledge that a lot of customers have is amazing. But they damn well know how to bitch for warranty repairs, or when they think you fucked them. They know all about that shit.

**cammed goat** · 11-11-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Dude not everybody is a car guy. You'd be surprised how many people dont know where the fuck their air filter is. The lack of knowledge that a lot of customers have is amazing. But they damn well know how to bitch for warranty repairs, or when they think you fucked them. They know all about that shit.

**310stanger** · 11-11-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by cammed goat

From what I heard, companies are closing their accounts with him and going to other shops. I refused to let a car out of my bay without the customer knowing the condition of their vehicle. Hell, that shop doesn't even have liability waiver forms, which the boss told me he would get, but he never did.

That guy is just BEGGING to get sued dude lol There will be a fire under his ass to get a liability section on the R.O's for the customer to sign off on when they blame the shop on something that happens with their vehicle after it leaves. A nice day in court and that guy will be all about procedure and liability.

**cammed goat** · 11-11-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

That guy is just BEGGING to get sued dude lol There will be a fire under his ass to get a liability section on the R.O's for the customer to sign off on when they blame the shop on something that happens with their vehicle after it leaves. A nice day in court and that guy will be all about procedure and liability.

That shop is the ONLY one I have worked for that didn't have liability forms. Every other shop had them and adhered to MAP guidelines.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by cammed goat

That shop is the ONLY one I have worked for that didn't have liability forms. Every other shop had them and adhered to MAP guidelines.

come to think of it have you seen a MSDS (material safety data sheets) notebook anywhere? I sure as hell haven't,I believe it is required by law. I swear if OSHA would walk in I would be able to shut the asshole down with the info I have,or if the town came in, or the labor dept, or after I get a few more bits of info I call all 3.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

I can see it now , partying with spaz both of us yapping a mile a minute. no one could follow or keep up with our conversation, because we change subject so quick and the switch back.Yet make perfect sense to each other.

add alot of alcohol and or coffee we will be running around trying to tackle bears and deer for dinner or throwing unsuspecting party attendees in the pool. starting with cammed. taking cammeds car for a quick joyride. all sorts of fun chit

I GOT IT SPAZAPALOOZA 2010 hits the U.S. capitol, we party at the white house!!!!!! that would be sure to get the libdrools out. we will get sarge to come as well

**310stanger** · 11-11-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

come to think of it have you seen a MSDS (material safety data sheets) notebook anywhere? I sure as hell haven't,I believe it is required by law. I swear if OSHA would walk in I would be able to shut the asshole down with the info I have,or if the town came in, or the labor dept, or after I get a few more bits of info I call all 3.

Its a state law the MSDS has to be easily accessible, along with an eye wash, and the disposal of chemicals like motor oil and engine coolant has to meet code and be near a door i believe. You also need a certain amount of up to date fire extinguishers in the shop too. OSHA is supposed to do inspections of the place. You can always just anonymously call osha and have them come inspect the place. I do that to bosses that piss me off at shops I know will fail the tests. It drives the managers crazy.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by 310stanger

Its a state law the MSDS has to be easily accessible, along with an eye wash, and the disposal of chemicals like motor oil and engine coolant has to meet code and be near a door i believe. You also need a certain amount of up to date fire extinguishers in the shop too. OSHA is supposed to do inspections of the place. You can always just anonymously call osha and have them come inspect the place. I do that to bosses that piss me off at shops I know will fail the tests. It drives the managers crazy.

we don't have a MSDS easily accessable,if we do I don't know about it.
we don't have eye wash,that I know of
what about new oil? we have 2 700 gallon tanks near the door between the showroom/office and the shop but about 25 ft or so from the bay door. The used oil ,and antifreeze along with the washerfluid,new antifreeze and trans fluid is near the bay door though. don't get me going on my bay.which is seperate from the main shop.

**cuervo25_1** · 11-11-2009, 05:08 PM

Any other regs you know? all will be helpful in nabbing this bastard once and for all. I know the bench grinder is supposed to have toolrests and guards, which ours don't.Is the shop supposed to hand out safteyglasses and hearing protection? I am more suseptable(spelling?) to hearing loss due to i work right next to the air compressor. I bet if I was there when the gov't org.s showed up I could point out alot that they would miss.

**310stanger** · 11-11-2009, 05:16 PM

old oil and antifreeze has to be by the bay door where it gets sucked via a pump into a pump room. That way the big truck the recycles that shit pumps it all out and take it away. You must have an eye wash inside the shop. Its the law. It must be in working order. The MSDS book must be made available to you as you touch chemicals all day and have the right to know what they are and what they can do to you. You must have at least 1 working fire extinguisher readily accessable in the shop.

**310stanger** · 11-11-2009, 05:27 PM

bench grinder has to be bolted to the bench and must have guards on it. You are required to be supplied with safety glasses. You are also supposed to be given boxes of latex gloves