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10-26-2009, 10:06 PM #1
getting my mailed in frost tuning
i have a 98 z28 m6 im sending in my pcm to frost and noticed is said they delete the AIR and EGR what exactly am i gaining from that? And will i still pass a obdII test? oh and if it helps have 3inch catback and free ram air mod and painted calipers haha thanks guys
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10-27-2009, 03:31 AM #2
it just means that if you plan on doing long tubes and delete the air and egr system that it wont throw a code. it should still pass emissions but i am not sure, it wont have the dtc stored so it should be good. also Frosts tuning will really wake those painted calipers up
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10-27-2009, 03:47 AM #3
Good point and I was wondering the same thing
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10-28-2009, 09:39 AM #4
Painted Calipers= Horsepower
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10-28-2009, 04:41 PM #5
Dont forget Greddy stickers down the side panel and huge aluminum spoiler do long tube headers eliminate the o2 sensors? is there an advantage to long tubes?
Cause headers and y pipe is is in the next couple steps for me.
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10-28-2009, 04:42 PM #6
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Deleting the AIR and EGR is just removing the SES codes it would pull. If its still on the car and functioning, I can't see why you would not pass an OBDII test.
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10-28-2009, 04:46 PM #7
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Long tubes eliminate the rear 02 sensors, you will still have the front 02 sensors though. Without the rear 02 sensors in place, you will pull a check engine code until you have the codes deleted. It will not affect performance adversely though.
The biggest advantage to long tubes is when you add a cam and other mods. By adding mid length or long tube headers, people generally see 15-20 RWHP gains. Now if you added a cam with mid length headers, you might pick up 25 HP with the cam where as you would have gained 35-40 HP with a cam and long tubes. Long tubes allow you to expand more than mid lengths do.
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10-28-2009, 05:05 PM #8
Alright but the frost tuning deletes those rear o2 codes and i will be alright with emissions?
Another thing i wanna do is get a ORY but would still like so swap with my stock y-pipe with long tubes on for emissions is this possible or would i need to swap headers as well?
Thanks for the good info helps alot
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10-28-2009, 05:13 PM #9
If he deletes the rear two O2 codes you will pass OBDII emissions. Deleting the O2s (I think) sets them both to a preset value (constant) so that the computer is fooled into thinking they are still there, and working properly. Thus this is why you won't get a SES light.
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10-28-2009, 05:16 PM #10
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10-28-2009, 05:33 PM #11
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10-29-2009, 08:10 AM #12
do not keep the stock y-pipe. if you've ever been under the car im sure uv noticed the oval(flat) pipe on the driver's side of the y-pipe. that hurts flow so badly.
stock y-pipe=slow
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10-29-2009, 11:46 AM #13
well i just wanna be able to swap them out once a year for emissions
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