1980 Trans Am

**Transamws6** · 10-12-2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

Yes, but I don't really want an Aluminum block... I want to bore/stroke. I am looking at LQ9 options. I want to put at least a 400 CI in there, bragging rights you know. It's like, my "unit" is bigger then yours.

Yea, but you know it doesn't matter how big your motor is. If your fast your fast, racing is about way more than the size of your motor.

Thats like a guy with an 03 cobra talking to a guy with a WS6 and the guy with the WS6 is like "It doesn't matter if your faster, i have a 346 and you have a 281". Don't matter he stills stomps your ass lol.

You gonna say "my unit is bigger though" after you lose a race? haha.

**justinmc978** · 10-12-2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

It is... The only thing GM managed to do for the most part in the 70's, and early 80's was build gas guzzeling gutlass pigs that fell apart under the massive weight. There where a few cars that were good but not many. Think about it, how many v8 passenger cars GM produced from say 75 to 85, then think of how many are still on the road today. The answer is very few, Gm made one hell of a bed for themselves to lay in that resonates to the present day!

and most cars from 75 to 85 were ugly as balls

**Smittro** · 10-12-2009, 06:26 PM

421 Pontiac.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyi8UlPK6zE[/ame]

**Smittro** · 10-12-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

442 out of an Olds? I can get a hold of a block, if my step grandpa will sell it? You really think I should stick with a BB, instead of a modern SMC?

442 is not a motor but a car designation bud. But yes! if you go modern you'll need to change quite a bit to run it. But if you stay old school you can just pretty much wire it up and go..

**SHines-IT** · 10-12-2009, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

442 is not a motor but a car designation bud. But yes! if you go modern you'll need to change quite a bit to run it. But if you stay old school you can just pretty much wire it up and go..

Oh, I am not to up to date on the old school motors...

Originally Posted by Transamws6

Yea, but you know it doesn't matter how big your motor is. If your fast your fast, racing is about way more than the size of your motor.

Thats like a guy with an 03 cobra talking to a guy with a WS6 and the guy with the WS6 is like "It doesn't matter if your faster, i have a 346 and you have a 281". Don't matter he stills stomps your ass lol.

You gonna say "my unit is bigger though" after you lose a race? haha.

Yes, I don't really care for F/I. I am more impressed in a well built N/A build... I have always been a fan of the 2nd gens, always loved the style. Same with the C3 Corvette. I pretty much want something I can drive allot, still be different at the car shows and stand out. But be decently quick, really just want it to be a good handling car. From what I read on the LSX Blocks, they are tough block and people who put them in DD had no complaints when building them H/C 600 RWHP DD's.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 10-12-2009, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

Well rumor has it under rated stock @ 415hp to say 425hp, but the skinny is they had over 500 out of the bag..

500 gross horsepower at the crank when he was talking about an lsx at 700 to the wheels. Though I could almost guarantee he'll never have near that much powa

**SHines-IT** · 10-12-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

500 gross horsepower at the crank when he was talking about an lsx at 700 to the wheels. Though I could almost guarantee he'll never have near that much powa

From what I read on a few articles, that the LSX 454 is more then capable of doing 600-700 RWHP? I will never need that much power, but I think it would be worth selling my 63 Falcon to build the motor up.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 10-12-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

From what I read on a few articles, that the LSX 454 is more then capable of doing 600-700 RWHP? I will never need that much power, but I think it would be worth selling my 63 Falcon to build the motor up.

That's a shit ton of money for the motor, then a shit ton for the t-56, then a custom driveshaft, then a 2k 12 bolt, and a completely new suspension set up, and some tires with a prayer of hooking up. I'm implying that you're 18 and thats a metric shit ton of money...

**Smittro** · 10-12-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

500 gross horsepower at the crank when he was talking about an lsx at 700 to the wheels. Though I could almost guarantee he'll never have near that much powa

700 is'nt stock though is what I'm getting @. I'm talking about a stock steel crank and forged connects BB from the factory and going from there..

**Transamws6** · 10-12-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

Oh, I am not to up to date on the old school motors...

Yes, I don't really care for F/I. I am more impressed in a well built N/A build... I have always been a fan of the 2nd gens, always loved the style. Same with the C3 Corvette. I pretty much want something I can drive allot, still be different at the car shows and stand out. But be decently quick, really just want it to be a good handling car. From what I read on the LSX Blocks, they are tough block and people who put them in DD had no complaints when building them H/C 600 RWHP DD's.

Yea, I like the 2nd gens to they are too sweet. I understand what your doing with that car, just sayin.

Speed is speed to me, don't matter if it's turbo, supercharged, n/a whatever long as it's quick it's cool with me! Forced induction or not!

**wheeliE-maxx** · 10-12-2009, 07:07 PM

Forced induction is the mutts nuttz to me. Atleast with a roots style blower. If I was shitting money i'd slap a Weiand 144 or 177 mini blower on a sbc with some and have 500 or so pounds of torque below 3500 rpm. Roots blower= instant torque

**Pony_Eater** · 10-12-2009, 07:12 PM

403 is NOT a big block...i have one

**wheeliE-maxx** · 10-12-2009, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Pony_Eater

403 is NOT a big block...i have one

Yup, even the 455 is just a taller deck small block

**ArcticZ06** · 10-12-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

man this girl i used to like back home is thinking about getting a 77/78 (showed pics couldnt tell which it was) i'm sure you can figure why i liked her, haha also she faguely resembles a 17yo frog which is all the better

ps wanna get psyched before you buy it?

That's pretty awesome. When did that movie come out?

**Smittro** · 10-12-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Pony_Eater

403 is NOT a big block...i have one

Your're right my bad.

**ArcticZ06** · 10-12-2009, 07:19 PM

I have a 70' olds 455 in my 1979 bird. That thing is definitely a tire shredder. Good thing about having the 403 is that the tranny and all of the accessories will swap over to an olds 455 if you find one.

**SHines-IT** · 10-12-2009, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

That's a shit ton of money for the motor, then a shit ton for the t-56, then a custom driveshaft, then a 2k 12 bolt, and a completely new suspension set up, and some tires with a prayer of hooking up. I'm implying that you're 18 and thats a metric shit ton of money...

Yea, I understand that. I say, after buying this car (if I like and go with it). After selling the Falcon, parting parts I or my stepdad does not want from the 98 T/A. Also when I finish the project I am doing for a local company. I should have about $10,000 in the bank in February. I figured that would be a good chunk to start the project. Then on the beginning of the year, I should be starting a day job, so a solid pay check at last. Since the economy being crappy, and trying to keep the little company afloat I started is getting hard. Hard getting word out there, hard getting douche bags to pay the other half at the end of the job. But none the less, I am still glad I took the chance. I know it will take a long time and a nice chunk of money... But it's something I want to do when I have the chance and want to learn. I will be 19 on the 15th, I want to be out on my own by the time I am 23 (Decided to go to school for Computer Engineering, pretty sure I am going for it). So the way I am looking at it, only a few more years I can learn some good skills from my stepdad.

Edit:
I am also looking at it this way, it's cheaper then a Corvette, should beat a Corvette. I can be proud that I wrenched the thing and put my blood on it. Plus at the end of the job, I should be able to do anything to that car mechanically.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 10-12-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

Yea, I understand that. I say, after buying this car (if I like and go with it). After selling the Falcon, parting parts I or my stepdad does not want from the 98 T/A. Also when I finish the project I am doing for a local company. I should have about $10,000 in the bank in February. I figured that would be a good chunk to start the project. Then on the beginning of the year, I should be starting a day job, so a solid pay check at last. Since the economy being crappy, and trying to keep the little company afloat I started is getting hard. Hard getting word out there, hard getting douche bags to pay the other half at the end of the job. But none the less, I am still glad I took the chance. I know it will take a long time and a nice chunk of money... But it's something I want to do when I have the chance and want to learn. I will be 19 on the 15th, I want to be out on my own by the time I am 23 (Decided to go to school for Computer Engineering, pretty sure I am going for it). So the way I am looking at it, only a few more years I can learn some good skills from my stepdad.

Edit:
I am also looking at it this way, it's cheaper then a Corvette, should beat a Corvette. I can be proud that I wrenched the thing and put my blood on it. Plus at the end of the job, I should be able to do anything to that car mechanically.

Other than working on any and everything from bicycles, parents' cars, dirtbikes, and nitro r/c cars my whole life (you learn alot from the r/c cars really, especially tuning) I started working on my last truck at 14 which was august of '07, my freshman year. I can do just about anything but complex body work now. Old cars are simple. so August '07-April or May of '08 (when the last one burned up) and February 24th to now is all the experience I have with my trucks and I can do anything. And I didn't really mess with my last truck all that much until january of '08... It's easy stuff

**SHines-IT** · 10-12-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

Other than working on any and everything from bicycles, parents' cars, dirtbikes, and nitro r/c cars my whole life (you learn alot from the r/c cars really, especially tuning) I started working on my last truck at 14 which was august of '07, my freshman year. I can do just about anything but complex body work now. Old cars are simple. so August '07-April or May of '08 (when the last one burned up) and February 24th to now is all the experience I have with my trucks and I can do anything. And I didn't really mess with my last truck all that much until january of '08... It's easy stuff

That's a nice confidence booster, I learned to do just about anything basic, from watch TV programs and going at it. I've repainted an old Bronco, that came out fairly well I might add (Not great, but hey... I was proud of my self). I think allot of it, I can do or learn fairly easy.