2001 SVT Mustang Cobra Conv.

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i believe i already stated that the '99 '01 cobras were pulling #s off what ford said.....i remember people taking them back to ford.....and my buddys mach1 dynoed 310RWHP stock

The 99's without "the fix" were off, Hence the reason there was no 2000. they fixed it with intake, and ECM upgrades, and fixed the 99's via recall...

the '01 did make 320 BHP...

as for the second claim....




I have been in the shop and watched the dyno.... Stock '04 Mach, With CAI, and Flows.... Dyno'd 265 RWHP.... It had 3k on the clock... They made 305 BHP stock. Never heard of one gaining HP thru the Drivetrain....

The LS1 claims 320 BHP, and makes every bit of 285 at the wheels...

Numbers dont lie.... Buddy's do.

[Hi-Po]

01 Mustang Anything huh? The best choice you will ever make for any of your friends around here at LS1.com.... Because we will all take turns looking at that ugly hunk of shit from our rear view mirror.

Buy it

[midnightnavyz28]

01 Mustang Anything huh? The best choice you will ever make for any of your friends around here at LS1.com.... Because we will all take turns looking at that ugly hunk of shit from our rear view mirror.

Buy it

[midnightnavyz28]

The 99's without "the fix" were off, Hence the reason there was no 2000. they fixed it with intake, and ECM upgrades, and fixed the 99's via recall...

the '01 did make 320 BHP...

as for the second claim....




I have been in the shop and watched the dyno.... Stock '04 Mach, With CAI, and Flows.... Dyno'd 265 RWHP.... It had 3k on the clock... They made 305 BHP stock. Never heard of one gaining HP thru the Drivetrain....

The LS1 claims 320 BHP, and makes every bit of 285 at the wheels...

Numbers dont lie.... Buddy's do.

the engines arent fully broken in until 10k miles........their are several mach1's documented to have over 300rwhp stock...........if they only have 265rwhp how have guys ran 12's bone stock?

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the engines arent fully broken in until 10k miles........their are several mach1's documented to have over 300rwhp stock...........if they only have 265rwhp how have guys ran 12's bone stock?

Not quite sure since the Termi Runs high 12's stock...........

[midnightnavyz28]

Not quite sure since the Termi Runs high 12's stock...........

'04 mach 1's have ran 12's bone stock

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Automobile Mag

With all that heavy-duty hardware, we didn't feel the least bit bad repeatedly launching the Cobra in a cloud of tire smoke. (Traction control is on hand to prevent this from happening inadvertently, but it does allow some wheelspin.) SVT engineers estimate that they've chopped a good half-second off the 0-to-60-mph time; we recorded 4.9 seconds and the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 109 mph. An electronic nanny steps in at 155 mph.

Mustang Monthly

We did have a chance to test our five-speed Mach 1 press vehicle on the dragstrip, making a pair of back-to-back passes during a Bradenton (Florida) Motorsports Park test and tune day. Forgetting to turn off the traction control on the first run resulted in a time-killing bog when the rear tires spun on the first-to-second shift, although we were impressed the car still managed a 13.81 at 102.40. With the traction control off on the next pass, the Mach 1 responded with a 13.54 at 103.14. We've heard about other Mach 1s dipping into the 13.20s with more experienced drivers.

When jumping out of the Mach 1 and straight into the '03 SVT Cobra, two things were immediately apparent. The supercharger makes a big difference, especially at low speeds, and the Cobra feels heavy in comparison to the Mach 1. If the Mach 1 is a street brawler, the Cobra is a well-heeled Mafia hit-man--dapper but dangerous.
More food for thought: Rated at 390 hp and 390 ft-lb of torque, the '03 Cobra is the most powerful Mustang ever offered to the public. Unfortunately, our limited time with the Cobra did not coincide with a dragstrip date, so we were unable to obtain quarter-mile times. However, our sister magazine, 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords, ran a string of low 13-second e.t.'s, including a 13.04, with a stock '03 Cobra.

Like I said....

[midnightnavyz28]

Automobile Mag



Mustang Monthly



Like I said....

thats the time of 2 mach 1s ....out of how many built?

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'04 mach 1's have ran 12's bone stock

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thats the time of 2 mach 1s ....out of how many built?

1st one is a cobra sparky.... an 03 Cobra... They run High, High 12's, to mid 13's Stock.


The mach Runs a mid to low (13.2) stock....

If it in fact breaks 12's it would be very high 12's.... But seems Like The Termi, Which has an average of 415 to the flywheel.... Would have no problem breaking into the low 12's stock if in fact the mach can do high 12's with an average 310 to the Flywheel...

I've backed mine with writing from accredited sources.... Your's with the words of your buddy.... I'm not Saying its impossible, Just not likely.

If it were a common occurance... There would be alot of pissed off Termi owners out there....

[midnightnavyz28]

1st one is a cobra sparky.... an 03 Cobra... They run High, High 12's, to mid 13's Stock.


The mach Runs a mid to low (13.2) stock....

If it in fact breaks 12's it would be very high 12's.... But seems Like The Termi, Which has an average of 415 to the flywheel.... Would have no problem breaking into the low 12's stock if in fact the mach can do high 12's with an average 310 to the Flywheel...

I've backed mine with writing from accredited sources.... Your's with the words of your buddy.... I'm not Saying its impossible, Just not likely.

If it were a common occurance... There would be alot of pissed off Termi owners out there....

Paul Svinicki, a pro late model driver, ran a e/t of 12.97@105.1 in a bone stock Mach 1 ......chew on that crow for a while

[midnightnavyz28]

directly from mustang monthly magazine:

QUARTER-MILE E.T.'S NOW
The e.t.'s shown below are with either Paul Svinicki driving
or the Ford engineers behind the wheel.
Best stock time, '03 Mach 1 auto 12.97 at 105.1
Best modified time,* '03 Mach 1 five-speed 12.97 at 105.1
Best stick time, Ford engineers:
'03 Mach 1 five-speed 12.97 at 105.1
Best stick time**: '03 Mach 1 five-speed: 12.97 at 105.


dont bring a knife to a gun fight recovery,

[midnightnavyz28]

Ford Recovery Expert:

Automobile Mag

Quote:
With all that heavy-duty hardware, we didn't feel the least bit bad repeatedly launching the Cobra in a cloud of tire smoke. (Traction control is on hand to prevent this from happening inadvertently, but it does allow some wheelspin.) SVT engineers estimate that they've chopped a good half-second off the 0-to-60-mph time; we recorded 4.9 seconds and the quarter-mile in 13.4 seconds at 109 mph. An electronic nanny steps in at 155 mph.


Mustang Monthly

Quote:
We did have a chance to test our five-speed Mach 1 press vehicle on the dragstrip, making a pair of back-to-back passes during a Bradenton (Florida) Motorsports Park test and tune day. Forgetting to turn off the traction control on the first run resulted in a time-killing bog when the rear tires spun on the first-to-second shift, although we were impressed the car still managed a 13.81 at 102.40. With the traction control off on the next pass, the Mach 1 responded with a 13.54 at 103.14. We've heard about other Mach 1s dipping into the 13.20s with more experienced drivers.

When jumping out of the Mach 1 and straight into the '03 SVT Cobra, two things were immediately apparent. The supercharger makes a big difference, especially at low speeds, and the Cobra feels heavy in comparison to the Mach 1. If the Mach 1 is a street brawler, the Cobra is a well-heeled Mafia hit-man--dapper but dangerous.
More food for thought: Rated at 390 hp and 390 ft-lb of torque, the '03 Cobra is the most powerful Mustang ever offered to the public. Unfortunately, our limited time with the Cobra did not coincide with a dragstrip date, so we were unable to obtain quarter-mile times. However, our sister magazine, 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords, ran a string of low 13-second e.t.'s, including a 13.04, with a stock '03 Cobra.


Like I said....



Not quite sure since the Termi Runs high 12's stock...........

Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28
i believe i already stated that the '99 '01 cobras were pulling #s off what ford said.....i remember people taking them back to ford.....and my buddys mach1 dynoed 310RWHP stock



The 99's without "the fix" were off, Hence the reason there was no 2000. they fixed it with intake, and ECM upgrades, and fixed the 99's via recall...

the '01 did make 320 BHP...

as for the second claim....




I have been in the shop and watched the dyno.... Stock '04 Mach, With CAI, and Flows.... Dyno'd 265 RWHP.... It had 3k on the clock... They made 305 BHP stock. Never heard of one gaining HP thru the Drivetrain....

The LS1 claims 320 BHP, and makes every bit of 285 at the wheels...

Numbers dont lie.... Buddy's do.

2001 Ford Mustang Cobra Coupe Performance & Efficiency Standard Features
- 4,601 cc 4.6 liters 8 V front engine with 90.2 mm bore, 90 mm stroke, 9.9 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder
- Premium unleaded fuel
- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 9.4
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- Main 59 liter premium unleaded fuel tank
- Power: 320 HP @ 6,000 rpm; 317 ft lb @ 4,750 rpm




2003 Ford Mustang Performance & Efficiency Standard Features
- 4,601 cc 4.6 liters 8 V front engine with 90.2 mm bore, 90 mm stroke, 10.1 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder
- Premium unleaded fuel
- Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 9.4
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- Main 59 liter premium unleaded fuel tank
- Power: 305 HP @ 6,000 rpm; 300 ft lb @ 4,250 rpm



Mach is actually rated lower.....



directly from mustang monthly magazine:

QUARTER-MILE E.T.'S NOW
The e.t.'s shown below are with either Paul Svinicki driving
or the Ford engineers behind the wheel.
Best stock time, '03 Mach 1 auto 12.97 at 105.1
Best modified time,* '03 Mach 1 five-speed 12.97 at 105.1
Best stick time, Ford engineers:
'03 Mach 1 five-speed 12.97 at 105.1
Best stick time**: '03 Mach 1 five-speed: 12.97 at 105.


dont bring a knife to a gun fight recovery,

[preston1980]

The 2 have almost the same engine and trans. 6800 redline, close to same trans ratios, but a 2004 Mach 1 will beat a 2001 cobra stock for stock (unless it an auto), because they are slightly lighter and a lot better geared (3.55 rear). A 5 speed Mach 1 is rated at 305 hp 320 torque, but puts down real high 260's hp to the wheels (320 engine), and high 270's (even low 280's) of torque to the wheels (easy 330 engine). This means Ford under rated the torque and the hp. They run 5.1 sec. 0-60.......... 13.3ish quarter mile with 104 mph trap speed. And yes Paul Svinicki did run 12.97 but with Drag radials, which is not stock.

2001 Cobra also dynos real high 260's hp to the wheels (320 engine) and high 260's rear torque (317 engine) but with 3.27 gears and heavier IRS, they run 5.2 0-60..........13.6ish quarter.

bottom line for the thread poster, a 2001 Cobra vert is going to be slower than a stock Mach 1, and slower yet than a 98-02 ls1 f body. And a personal note as a former Cobra owner, the seating position, clutch position, and lengthy reach to the shifter is terrible in my opinion. The ls1 fbody seating is right where it needs to be. You sit up to high and to straight in a Cobra, compared to a Trans Am or maro. Heads and cams will be very expensive compared to ls1 cars. But the bolt on stuff like headers and mid pipes/exhaust will be easier and cheaper, becasue of easy access.

I wouldnt do it if I where you. .....2001 Cobra (mid to high 13) < 2004 Mach1 (low to mid 13) < LS1 fbod (low 13)......

[bluehawk2000]

What I am trying to figure out is if, you are going active duty in the military no matter what branch. You dont have to worry about transportation to anywhere, if you are army. Better looks forward to usuing that old school thing called walking and running you'll do alot of that. And all the money you will be making will be spending money, cause you wont pay for shit other than like cellphone and what not. As for a house its called a first time buyers loan, and as long as you show a mortgage company a copy of your title 10 orders thats all they want to see. You will get a loan for a house, I wouldnt worry about it lol, I am currently in Iraq and I have actually made over 30 grand this year and I am only a e-4. Working on getting that e-5 lol, so enlighten me what branch are you going into, what is your job?

[Too Fast]

If your Trans Am is paid for, and you want to put a lot of money into your house, then keep it so you have no payments on another car. These car are reliable, and any money you might have to put into it won't be as much as all those payments.

[bluehawk2000]

Yea I am in the same boat as tofast that is exactly what I would do, but you can't really own a house in the army since you are moving around alot, their is no gurantee that you will be at the same post for the entirity of your contract.

[SHines-IT]

What I am trying to figure out is if, you are going active duty in the military no matter what branch. You dont have to worry about transportation to anywhere, if you are army. Better looks forward to usuing that old school thing called walking and running you'll do alot of that. And all the money you will be making will be spending money, cause you wont pay for shit other than like cellphone and what not. As for a house its called a first time buyers loan, and as long as you show a mortgage company a copy of your title 10 orders thats all they want to see. You will get a loan for a house, I wouldnt worry about it lol, I am currently in Iraq and I have actually made over 30 grand this year and I am only a e-4. Working on getting that e-5 lol, so enlighten me what branch are you going into, what is your job?

10 Orders?

If it's on base, anywhere I would walk. But I would still imagine having a good car, is very beneficial. I am not much of a party person, so I can't see me going of to the bars or strip clubs... So that's a hell of allot less driving. I guess a car would be for enjoyment?

I am probably going into the Army. For either something to do with computer repairs, or radiology. Also, I plain to buy a house, down here where I live. I know I probably won't get to live in it much. But it's an investment. The economy is in the shitter, houses are cheaper then they have been in years (we all probably know this). I would like to get my hands in the action and make a solid investment in a home. I would like to pay it off early as possible, so I can for see dumping allot of money into a house. I would probably rent the house to my brother, mean time. Also my car is paid for, I would not finance the Mustang. Also the guy is only asking $4,900, hell of a deal. Only car I would finance, would be the G8 GT (Since there cheap and if sold both cars, could pay off in a year).

Also, I don't go to the drag strip, never and don't intend to. I am the type of guy who likes to find a twisty road and have fun. So the Auto X thing, looks appealing to me. Convertible sounds nice, I love the T-Tops in my car, but it's not the same. I don't really mod my cars... If I was to mod the Stang, even my car. Would be Full Exhaust, Intake, Wires/Plugs, Suspension, Wheels/Tires, Brakes, Clutch/Flywheel, Transmission (Little), Gears, and Dyno Tune or Street Tune, maybe other bolt ons. I like to keep cars fairly stock... I may put stronger push rods in there, maybe play with the heads. But I keep my cars mostly stock. I mostly regret that my car is an A4, not M6. I also like to keep them clean, as to me that's like meditation... Also, I can see putting an aftermarket stereo in there. But that's pretty much as far as I do with mods, for any car. I have thought about heads/cam for my car... Only for the peace and mind, that the upper portion of my motor would be new.

[Viciousjay]

after owning 2 bodys and 1 04 terminator, the 01's are nice cars and are CHEAPER TO MOD then a fbody for sure, also the IRS is a way better setup, it can set for auto cross or drag but it will ride much better then the fbody. just do the minor bolt ons and see what happens.

i vote get hte car and enjoy it, the first thing i would do is springs and some new rims which you can get a set for liek 500 with deep dishes

[00LS12LS6Z28]

If you have to get a Stang, get an 03-04 Cobra.....Sometimes I wish I had waited 3 years and got one...But I like any car that is fast.....