MSN asks "Will anyone mourn Pontiac?"

[shady milkman]

no so fast,my friend.montgomery chevy dealership a a v6 camaro with a price tag of $39,000.granted it is loaded rs model,but it is still a v6.and the 2 other v6 camaros they had on the lot were priced at $28,000 and $30,000.they did not have a ss

that is not the norm by any means..39k for a v6 ...i went to the website and made a fully loaded...i mean every option i could..including the 21 in wheels and it came out to 36k msrp..so that 39k is not the norm.

[Spaz]

im sorry they marked them up soo much..but as you pointed out 22k for a v6 at msrp

doesn't matter... they are priced far beyond what they should be on the current market... gm will fail and the camaro will die again...

[shady milkman]

doesn't matter... they are priced far beyond what they should be on the current market... gm will fail and the camaro will die again...

so because a dealer orders or receives a ridiculously optioned car..then goes and rapes on the mark up ..its somehow gm's fault ?

if i am not mistaken our birds and maros had some ridiculous mark ups. ..and wouldn't you be pissed and bitch if they marked down the maros to 16k..then once the economy bounces back they move it back up to 22k.

i think in general..those who dont like the camaro or GM..will find something/if not everything to bitch about it ..but once again that is human nature.

[shady milkman]

doesn't matter... they are priced far beyond what they should be on the current market... gm will fail and the camaro will die again...

well i respectivily disagree...especially when you will be able to get those last year model camaros for cheaper in the years to come.

[Spaz]

so because a dealer orders or receives a ridiculously optioned car..then goes and rapes on the mark up ..its somehow gm's fault ?

if i am not mistaken our birds and maros had some ridiculous mark ups. ..and wouldn't you be pissed and bitch if they marked down the maros to 16k..then once the economy bounces back they move it back up to 22k.

i think in general..those who dont like the camaro or GM..will find something/if not everything to bitch about it ..but once again that is human nature.

not one bit...

[Spaz]

well i respectivily disagree...especially when you will be able to get those last year model camaros for cheaper in the years to come.

sure... but that fucks up supply and demand... less numbers are made because they aren't selling well...

[shady milkman]

sure... but that fucks up supply and demand... less numbers are made because they aren't selling well...

but they are selling well.

[shady milkman]

not one bit...

[Spaz]

but they are selling well.

proof??? i sure as hell don't see many on hte street...

[shady milkman]

year to date 22,510...mind you it started at the middle of march.

[Spaz]

year to date 22,510...mind you it started at the middle of march.

link???

[Zboner]

i went to buy one a few months back and they wouldn't even honor emplyee pricing on em, they told me that they dont have to honor it cause there in such high demand. my grand father worked for gm for 30 years here in the Norwood plant in Cincinnati making all the first and 2nd gen camaros and trans am's. And ill never ever buy a GM product again, its not even gm anymore it's under the gov't control.

it sucks to say it but Ford is truly the only American car anymore they didnt take bailout money so congrats to them.

[shady milkman]

link???

here you go my friend

[shady milkman]

i went to buy one a few months back and they wouldn't even honor emplyee pricing on em, they told me that they dont have to honor it cause there in such high demand.

that is bullshit.

[Spaz]

here you go my friend

they are already on a decline...

[shady milkman]

they are already on a decline...

of course..all cars do that..they never sell as well or strong as when they are first released..come on now ryan

[ibanez7]

so because a dealer orders or receives a ridiculously optioned car..then goes and rapes on the mark up ..its somehow gm's fault ?

if i am not mistaken our birds and maros had some ridiculous mark ups. ..and wouldn't you be pissed and bitch if they marked down the maros to 16k..then once the economy bounces back they move it back up to 22k.

i think in general..those who dont like the camaro or GM..will find something/if not everything to bitch about it ..but once again that is human nature.

yes its gms faults...

I feel that companies should be responsible and control their resellers mark up.
If GM sets an MSRP, than the costs of the vehicle should never be higher than MSRP...

Many companies that sell their products non-direct through reseller chains, control the resellers in what costs/discounts the product can be sold for and mark up is not allowed.

Secondly, GM can not afford to discount any of their vehicles that much because of the high costs the UAW has hit GM with. hence why GM is and has been in the situation they are in. Also why many past domestic car makers no longer exist, the UAW is greedy, demanding and devours companies like a parasite.

If GM would have filed bankruptcy from the very beginning, disolved the UAW, hire workers directly and pay them directly, GM would be in a better leaner more costs efficient position. Now its only a matter of time until GM dissolves to nothing... History has proven this with past US car makers.

[shady milkman]

yes its gms faults...

I feel that companies should be responsible and control their resellers mark up.
If GM sets an MSRP, than the costs of the vehicle should never be higher than MSRP...

Many companies that sell their products non-direct through reseller chains, control the resellers in what costs/discounts the product can be sold for and mark up is not allowed.

Secondly, GM can not afford to discount any of their vehicles that much because of the high costs the UAW has hit GM with. hence why GM is and has been in the situation they are in. Also why many past domestic car makers no longer exist, the UAW is greedy, demanding and devours companies like a parasite.

If GM would have filed bankruptcy from the very beginning, disolved the UAW, hire workers directly and pay them directly, GM would be in a better leaner more costs efficient position. Now its only a matter of time until GM dissolves to nothing... History has proven this with past US car makers.

hmm yea i assume gm should take more control..i know that when the maro was first released they told the dealerships that they could not be sold for more then msrp..but that might have been for the orders and not the off the lot buys. i believe that gm will survive and will come back leaner and stronger..but it will take time

[02transamce]

the $39k v6 was a rs with the ground effects,gauge package,and the orange interior upgrade,and $5k of dealer markup over sticker.

[Spikito]

dumb asses ...they might not miss the new pontiac..but the old pontiac (including the G/A,G/P, firebird) will be missed..there is a reason why there are pontiac families that only bought pontiacs...from the get go they where designed for style etc.

thats what i was thinking...missed in its current form? no..but the pontiac of the 60s, 70s, and 90s, yes

How can you not miss the Superbird, lol