How Rare Are Hardtop WS6's?

**SoCalTom** · 03-12-2006, 10:40 AM

I really want a 98-02 hardtop WS6 (preferably M6). How rare are they? This isn't a WTB post, just wondering how hard I'm going to have to search for the car. Anybody have production numbers that break down T-top vs. hardtop?

**oneBADDz** · 03-12-2006, 10:56 AM

This came up a while back, and I think the general agreement was that you won't find one. I could be wrong though

philsls1 · 03-12-2006, 11:05 AM

i believe the only hardtop ws6 were firebird formulas. you wont find them in a t/a.

**oneBADDz** · 03-12-2006, 11:17 AM

Yeah I was gonna say you could get a hardtop formula, but not a WS6 T/A, I was off looking for info first

**ws6guy559** · 03-12-2006, 02:15 PM

you can get a Hardtop Ws-6 in a 96-97 Trans am ws6 i know for a fact cuz i drove a red one.

**BLKbandit98** · 03-12-2006, 02:22 PM

i have yet to see a WS6 w/o t-tops.

**Matto4785** · 03-12-2006, 05:27 PM

I believe t-tops were standard on trans am's from 98-02. I have never seen a 98+ TA hardtop, only t-tops and droptops.

**nhra-trans-am** · 03-12-2006, 06:30 PM

no 98-02 ws6 hard tops, or trans ams for that matter. Only formula ws6's

**96ta** · 03-12-2006, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by Matto4785

I believe t-tops were standard on trans am's from 98-02.

You are correct. Also, leather interior is standard for TAs of those years.

**my1973form** · 03-13-2006, 05:36 AM

No Formula Hard Tops in 2002 all were T-top cars, although you could get a 2001 Formula in a Hard top/T-top...

**SharkTA** · 03-13-2006, 06:29 AM

So your only real option if you really want one but don't mind clones is to get a WS6 formula or regular formula nad start swapping parts to create your own 1/0 WS6 hardtop. Just don't try to pass it off as a rare factory option.

**JohnnyBs98WS6Rag** · 03-13-2006, 08:06 AM

I believe there was one '98 WS6 T/A hardtop built, can't remember if it was a pre-production mule or promo car or "special ordered" by some dealer who knew someone on the inside. But I do remember seeing a picture of it somewhere. While that combo wasn't available to the average Joe (all T/As came standard w/ t-tops in '98+), sometimes those oddballs do slip out the door (same w/ the 2 '98 WS6 Formula 'verts that were built).

**SoCalTom** · 03-13-2006, 05:10 PM

OK I'm sorry to ask a totally dumb question but what is the difference between a t/a and a formula?

**Matto4785** · 03-13-2006, 06:10 PM

A formula is the base firebird body with the v8. It was the middle model. Trans Am was the top of the line model, generally loaded, much more standard things like leather, power acc, t-tops, plus the v8. The formula could be had with less options, and would usually weigh less than a trans am.

**oneBADDz** · 03-13-2006, 08:19 PM

Yeah the base formula doesn't have the heavy ass fiberglass ram air hood or the extra 40 pounds in spoiler or however much it is either. Nor does it have the heavier suspension setup like the WS6 T/A

**Black_Bird_99** · 03-23-2006, 08:52 PM

WS6 Formula Production #s:
Model year 1998:
221 WS6 Formulas (including 14 1LE cars hardtop WS6 Formula)
2 WS6 Formula verts

Model Year 1999:
175 WS6 Formulas (including 20 1LE WS6 Formulas)

Model Year 2000:
232 WS6 Formulas

Here is greater detail & breakdown on model year 1999 WS6 Formula:

175 total WS6 Formulas

Breakdown by Colors: (code / color / quantity:
10U (White) - 16
11U (Pewter Metallic) - 20
13U (Silver Metallic) - 13
28U (Navy Blue Metallic) - 27
41U (Black) - 79
81U (Bright Red) - 20

Breakdown by tranny:
Automatic (MX0) - 62
6-Speed Manual(MN6) - 113
MN6 with BBS (Hurst Shifter) - 12

Top:
T-Tops 107
Hd-Top 68 (including 20 1LE WS6 Formulas)

Interior trim:
Pewter Cloth (14B) - 96
Pewter Leather (143) - 58
Neutral Cloth (52B) - 12
Neutral Leather (523) - 9

Other details for model year 1999 WS6 Formula:
62 were built with GU5 axle
91 built with NW9 Traction Control
26 built with U1S 12 CD Changer
Radios: W53 - 20, W54 - 35, & W55 - 120,
1SA - 61
1SB - 94
1LE - 20
118 built with AG1 Power Driver Seat
139 built with AU0 Keyless Entry

Hope that helps.

**Waynestep** · 03-24-2006, 08:23 AM

OMG- is that WS6 nice! From someone else driving a young man's dream!

**ScrapMaker** · 03-24-2006, 01:44 PM

personally, I love the way t-tops look. they are the only 'removable' top of any kind that I will tolerate...

convertibles look like crap with the top up...

t-tops look good, on or off...

just means we need to get some more braces and whatnot for our cars...

**SoCalTom** · 05-03-2006, 07:41 PM

OK, so I hear from everyone that hardtop WS6's don't exist and then I see that one is for sale right now on this board. Is it a conversion or just extremely rare?

**SoCalTom** · 05-03-2006, 07:41 PM

OK, so I hear from everyone that hardtop WS6's don't exist and then I see that one is for sale right now on this board. Is it a conversion or just extremely rare?