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    Why would you want a language that doesn't evolve over time? I understand why you think is is merely a degredation of the language, but you should also consider the idea that it may be good for our language to evolve and grow with us

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Yinz? I've never heard that. But it sure used to grate on my ears when my ex's mother would ask say... So what are youse guys doing tonight?
    HAha, I've got a hispanic friend (I call it mexican. . .) and he always says "what's up dudes?!?!?!" So I always look around and say man, I'm alone Freddy, and he says, yous know what I mean. . . . . . lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Especially since I'm from the NYC/NJ area an

    The dictionary definition clearly states that the STANDARD ENGLISH that most of the USA speaks does NOT use the word that way, so YOU'RE the oddball buddy!
    Explains it all. Only people from the north can learn proper english like yous guys or "pop" instead of coke or soda. Alot of people from the south have thier own language and slang. Just like alot of people up north have a bitchey attitude, and seem to always try to find something wrong with anyone.

    I would rather hear broken english from an illegal than hip-hop slang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D!ck
    if you expect others to be perfect, why do you not expect that of yourself?
    Go ahead and quote me where I said I expect people to be perfect.
    Good luck.

    Ocassional typo <> Talking like a dumbass full time

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    Why would you want a language that doesn't evolve over time? I understand why you think is is merely a degredation of the language, but you should also consider the idea that it may be good for our language to evolve and grow with us
    So then you endorse the propagation of Ebonics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrus
    Explains it all. Only people from the north can learn proper english like yous guys or "pop" instead of coke or soda. Alot of people from the south have their own language and slang. Just like alot of people up north have a bitchey attitude, and seem to always try to find something wrong with anyone.

    I would rather hear broken english from an illegal than hip-hop slang.
    No kidding. Maybe you missed my criticisms of Northerners (including my own father).
    Like Bahston folks or Michigan people talking aboot stuff.

    Being that I grew up in the Northeast, the two dialects that irk me the most BOTH comes straight out of Brooklyn NY. The Goombah New Yawk accent and the Ghetto Thug Gangsta lingo. Nauseating!

    I mean seriously... Ask ANYONE who's interviewed people for good paying jobs if that kind of dialect helps applicants out any.

    Would you AXE the hiring manager at a Fortune 500 company what their benefits package is like?

    Would you tell the hiring manager at a Fortune 500 company why you WAS FIXIN' to get that job?

    I doubt it, and if you would, I doubt you'd be their first pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT

    Would you AXE the hiring manager at a Fortune 500 company what their benefits package is like?

    Would you tell the hiring manager at a Fortune 500 company why you WAS FIXIN' to get that job?

    I doubt it, and if you would, I doubt you'd be their first pick.

    Does it ever bother you that you have so little going on you have to make up new topics to pass the time? I mean some of your stuff is good, but this kind of thread just make you look a bit insane, and lonley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrus
    Does it ever bother you that you have so little going on you have to make up new topics to pass the time? I mean some of your stuff is good, but this kind of thread just make you look a bit insane, and lonley.
    Nope. And neither do petty personal insults over the internet from people like you who don't like when I speak the kind of truth that's hard to swallow for some folks.

    You ain't fixing to get mad is ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    So then you endorse the propagation of Ebonics?
    Anymore isn't ebonics. Ebonics is lumping together slang into a named category, most of which has no foundation -meaning it isn't a new take on old language. I'd call it hip hop pig latin. . .
    The meanings and usage of words evolves over time to better accomidate the times and the ways we relate to our own language, and that's a good thing. I'd say the problem here is drawing the line between our language growing with us and the useless misuse of language

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Nope. And neither do petty personal insults over the internet from people like you who don't like when I speak the kind of truth that's hard to swallow for some folks.

    You ain't fixing to get mad is ya?
    I have no alerts under my name. Was not really insulting you was thinking why would someone who is supposed to be so smart, able to debate a gerbil into thinking it is a dog waste his time with the useless internet world. Put your powers to good use Billy. Go teach california youngsters...make your own demonic army and stop playing Internet goblin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    Anymore isn't ebonics. Ebonics is lumping together slang into a named category, most of which has no foundation -meaning it isn't a new take on old language. I'd call it hip hop pig latin. . .
    The meanings and usage of words evolves over time to better accomidate the times and the ways we relate to our own language, and that's a good thing. I'd say the problem here is drawing the line between our language growing with us and the useless misuse of language
    I agree, but using Anymore as a positive makes no sense.

    The word "Should've" does not exist, but it would make sense if it did as a contraction of Should Have. Instead half the morons on the web say "Should Of", which makes ZERO sense.

    Anymore = No Longer

    Saying, "I used to have poor verbal skills, but I don't anymore" makes perfect sense.
    Saying, "I used to have poor verbal skills, but they're much better anymore", makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrus
    I have no alerts under my name. Was not really insulting you was thinking why would someone who is supposed to be so smart, able to debate a gerbil into thinking it is a dog waste his time with the useless internet world. Put your powers to good use Billy. Go teach california youngsters...make your own demonic army and stop playing Internet goblin.
    I've only lived in CA for less than six months, so I am extremely busy with all kinds of other things, but thanks for the kind advice Rus.

    Much obliged!

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    OMG, damn Billy T, youse always talkin shit. Right away when i saw this thread i knew it was you bitchin bout' sometin. dude get over it. STFU. I cant see anyone else bitchin bout this other than you. Damn man get a girlfriend, porn, drink, i tighter chin strap, or some velcro shoes. anything to make your life a wittle betta.

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    The majority of the population is poorly educated in the correct use of the engilsh language. It is all too common to type words the way they sound due to a lack of knowledge of the actual use of words. Should've sounds like should of, not should have. The average person will not think twice about how they should actually spell it. I type should have, but I say should've. I talk like a dumb hick, because I am one. I am very much so a perfectionist and if you have noticed in any thread I always try to capitalize and punctuate. I talk on instant messenger programs very often and use correct grammar, spelling, capitalization, and punctuation almost 100 percent of the time. I know, 100 should have been spelled out as one hundred, but who cares. I do think about that stuff though, and I have trouble leaving it like that sometimes. I agree that the lack of education among Americans is annoying, especially when it manifests itself in what we would call the simplest of tasks -verbal and written communication. Unfortunatly for you, most people aren't like me. It is a trivial matter and most people treat it that way.

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    Oh yeah, although the evolution of our language is due in part to the under-educated misuse of words, I still think it's a good idea to grow with it. Don't oppose it because you don't think it makes sense, learn it

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    Oh yeah, although the evolution of our language is due in part to the under-educated misuse of words, I still think it's a good idea to grow with it. Don't oppose it because you don't think it makes sense, learn it
    I will always strive to learn what makes the most sense.

    But I will not "learn" something that doesn't makes sense just because lots of other people are doing it.

    To me, that's counterproductive. And a damn shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Po
    OMG, damn Billy T, youse always talkin shit. Right away when i saw this thread i knew it was you bitchin bout' sometin. dude get over it. STFU. I cant see anyone else bitchin bout this other than you. Damn man get a girlfriend, porn, drink, i tighter chin strap, or some velcro shoes. anything to make your life a wittle betta.
    If it bugs you so much then just stay the fuck out of my threads and get back to yours, like "Come drink on the Train!" or "whats your favorite beer?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    I will always strive to learn what makes the most sense.

    But I will not "learn" something that doesn't makes sense just because lots of other people are doing it.

    To me, that's counterproductive. And a damn shame.
    Not learning the ways of society is counterproductive. Our language in it's purest form never made a lot of sense, but it's what you were taught so you think it makes sense. The newest forms of it may seem foriegn, but they are no more foreign than many of the forms of words you use today were to our ancestors 50 or 100 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    Not learning the ways of society is counterproductive. Our language in it's purest form never made a lot of sense, but it's what you were taught so you think it makes sense. The newest forms of it may seem foriegn, but they are no more foreign than many of the forms of words you use today were to our ancestors 50 or 100 years ago
    Ok, I'll enrichen myself with these "current" dialects, and when I go on my next job interview I'll be sure to say to the hiring manager...

    "Howdy! I'm fixin to finds me a job and I heard ya'll was hiring. So I figured I'd axe yuz if yer still hiring anymore"

    Then when I find myself unable to find work, can I come live with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyT
    Anymore = No Longer

    Saying, "I used to have poor verbal skills, but I don't anymore" makes perfect sense.
    Saying, "I used to have poor verbal skills, but they're much better anymore", makes no sense whatsoever.

    Anymore=From now on

    You would say, "My verbal skills are not poor anymore."

    Oh, and I have presented this to three english teachers, two previous and one current, and they all agree that the usage is correct. So, that is two doctorates and a high school/college english teacher with 20 years teaching experience. One Dr. got her degree at LSU and the other somewhere on the East coast, so don't even pull the regional bullshit on this one.

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