What do you consider to be the "Greatest muscle car ever"?

**Element187** · 02-17-2006, 11:22 AM

what? no mention of the acura integra type r?!?!?!

**RainMan** · 02-17-2006, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

I'm not voting for any of those, since this is my favorite:

1967 Corvette 427.
I had a friend who had a buddy who had one...
I loved the way it would rumble in the parking lot of the pool hall and shake the windows

Oh, and the stand-still burnouts that would fill the area with smoke!

those were the days!

OOOHmyGawd! Pop-up Head lights! How dated! . . . .

J/K That definitely is a sweet car! Could use some updated wheels & tires though! My $.02

**Motrv8d Steve** · 02-17-2006, 03:04 PM

i think Mr. RPM is going for the correct "period look".
lots of hot rod guys do that I've noticed. they'll put mag wheels on them just to look the part

**Wayah-bird** · 02-17-2006, 03:55 PM

I really don't think that anything can compare to the Superbird. That basically was a NASCAR (with 426 hemi) that you could buy from the dealer. Incredible!

**snaggeltooth** · 02-17-2006, 08:09 PM

That is weird that no one has checked the Daytona yet

**Motrv8d Steve** · 02-17-2006, 08:17 PM

whoever said 427 Shelby Cobra

oh i forgot it's a sports car and really dated at that!

**snaggeltooth** · 02-17-2006, 08:20 PM

wow Steve you going into that dated thing more than I did....................keep up the good work...lol..

**BillyT** · 02-18-2006, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

oh that's right. I forgot God died and left you in charge...

Corvettes are SPORTS cars NOT muscle cars.
try telling that to someone who just bought a new 505 HP Z06

Yeah sure, and tell a guy who just bought a new 525 HP Lamborghini Gallardo that he has a mucle car and not a sports car.

**BillyT** · 02-18-2006, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

wow Steve you going into that dated thing more than I did....................keep up the good work...lol..

Yup, some people just can't get a grip sometime.

**Danger731** · 02-18-2006, 04:10 AM

Cuda Cuda Cuda Cuda

**SexOnWheels** · 02-18-2006, 06:24 AM

Has to be the ZL1 this is LS1.com after all!

**Murder after Midnight** · 02-18-2006, 06:29 AM

Wow no love for the charger daytona?

**Murder after Midnight** · 02-18-2006, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by BillyT

Yup, some people just can't get a grip sometime.

Come on Billy T dont start man I seen your work in the T/a Camaro thread.......

**hammertime** · 02-18-2006, 08:51 AM

Well, seeing how the original post started with "which was the greatest", I'd say that rules out any current production car. Don't get me wrong, the Z06 is to die for!

The terms muscle car and fuel injection, just don't seem to go together. I'd rule out 4th gens, 5.0's and even GNX's because they are all modern cars. And true muscle cars are mid-sized cars that the oem's stuffed more power into. The Camaro?Mustang/Trans Am's were all smaller cars.

So....with all that said, the best muscle car would have to be the best oem switch from mundane sedan to street freak terror.

Thank the Beach Boys for this one A brand new shiny red Super Stock Dodge

**snaggeltooth** · 02-18-2006, 09:53 AM

Agreed hammertime. maybe the fastest car or most liked car could be another thread.......bye the bye there is no way a 63 FI vette could hang with a cross ram 413

**BillyT** · 02-18-2006, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Murder after Midnight

Wow no love for the charger daytona?

If you've read the thread, you'd realize he's the one starting shit, simply because I said the Vette is a sports car, and I so chose the GTO as the best muscle car.

**Motrv8d Steve** · 02-18-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by BillyT

The Corvette has always been a sports car.
I'd have to go with the GTO.

Originally Posted by BillyT

If you've read the thread, you'd realize he's the one starting shit, simply because I said the Vette is a sports car, and I so chose the GTO as the best muscle car.

Who started what shit? You questioned my definition of a muscle car, which doesn't fit into your square little box. So according to you, if it doesn't have a back seat then it's not a muscle car. Period. If that works for you, then fine. But this thread is asking for what I consider to be the Greatest Muscle car ever and this is MY OPINION.

So if you want to be technical, there was an episode of American Muscle Car here while back and guess what, they devoted an entire show to the Chevy Corvette. And there were a few guys on there who waxed nostalgic about the good old days when, if you had a mid sixties 427 Stingray you pretty much didn't have to fear anything at a stop light. They were more worried about getting traction than the guy in the next lane.

So if the Corvette doesn't belong in a discussion about the "Greatest muscle car ever", then you better write to the guys who produce that show because according to you, they must be out of their everlovin' minds featuring a car like the Corvette.

the one shown here is not the episode I watched but you get the idea...

Or you could buy this History Channel video on muscle cars on eBay today... which features the Firebird, Mustang, CORVETTE, and others...

Books have been written on the subject too, so you better get writing...

Oh and check out the website www.musclecarsnational.com, they've got a whole gallery devoted to Corvette members, here is just one:
http://www.musclecarnationals.com/gallery/gallery.htm

So I didn't start any shit, Billy. YOU DID. I'm just supporting my opinion.

**snaggeltooth** · 02-18-2006, 12:25 PM

OHH great. Now I have to be on billys side. There is no debate that Vettes and Shelbys are great and fst cars. I still think they are sports cars. Even though . This is a what you think thread so no one is wrong.

**BillyT** · 02-18-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

Who started what shit? You questioned my definition of a muscle car, which doesn't fit into your square little box.

So I didn't start any shit, Billy. YOU DID. I'm just supporting my opinion.

My post...

Originally Posted by BillyT

The Corvette has always been a sports car.
I'd have to go with the GTO.

Is HARDLY what anyone would call "starting shit".
I simply posted my opnion.

Your post...

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

oh that's right. I forgot God died and left you in charge...

Corvettes are SPORTS cars NOT muscle cars.
try telling that to someone who just bought a new 505 HP Z06

Is what most people would call "starting shit".
Your post was an attack.

**BillyT** · 02-18-2006, 12:51 PM

Muscle Car
Muscle car is a term for high-performance automobiles, principally referring to American models produced between 1964 to 1971. During the period these vehicles were interchangeably (and more commonly) described as supercars.
The term muscle car generally describes a mid-size car with a large, powerful engine (typically, although not universally, a V8 engine) and special trim, intended for maximum acceleration on the street or in drag racing competition. It is distinguished from sports cars, which were customarily considered smaller, two-seat cars, or GTs, two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring and possibly road racing. High-performance full-size or compact cars are arguably excluded from this category, as are the breed of compact sports coupes inspired by the Ford Mustang and typically known as pony cars, although few would dispute a big-block pony car's credentials as a muscle car.

Sports Car
A sports car is a type of automobile designed for sporting performance.
While opinions differ as to the exact definition, most sports cars have two seats and two doors, and are designed to provide excellent acceleration, top speed, and good looks.

When it comes to actual Sports car racing and the needs for braking, maneuverability, low weight, reliability etc., the philosophies differ. While some brands like Porsche always have built cars that are raced, others like Lamborghini never were intended nor suitable for competitions. Most current so-called sports cars have to be considered luxury cars, with many options and high weight, as few customers are willing to sacrifice comfort or noise deafening.

Great emphasis is often placed on handling—the ability of the driver to remain in control of the car under challenging conditions such as when the car's tires begin to lose their grip on corners.

A car may be sporting without being a sports car. Performance modifications of regular cars, such as muscle cars, hot hatches and the like do not generally fall in the pure sports car territory.