ws6 vs 03 cobra

**c5z28** · 08-14-2008, 12:18 PM

Don't quote me on this but the m6 ls1's have a higher top end speed, I know for sure on the non s/c cobras because they only have a 5m. But for sure 03-04's will beat on us stock, heaven know's I have tried and lost.

**blackbirdbrain89** · 08-14-2008, 01:12 PM

driver mod

**c5z28** · 08-14-2008, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89

driver mod

Your not laughing at me are you? dont tell me a stock ls-1 can beat a terminator.

**kris6273** · 08-15-2008, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89

driver mod

not that funny bc if the driver in the 03-04 cobra is any good at shifting then a stock ls1 doesn't really stand a chance if they are equal drivers in both cars so only way driver mod would work to win that race is if the cobra cant and the ls1 can

**david_viny** · 08-16-2008, 02:26 PM

There is a reason the 03-04 cobras are nicknamed "Terminators". I'm going to have to say that a Term will win every time. I think it could be remotely close with an awesome driver in the LS1 but the Term would still win.

**adam0321** · 08-17-2008, 07:24 AM

i crushed one out hear in panama city. but the thing I always wonder is if it is a cobra or a gt with a snake on it. but there are 3 around hear that I have counted and I have raced two of the 3 and walked around them(99,m6,ms3,2.5-5.3l heads,fast 92/92,true duals moser m9w 410,and full bolt ons 100shot soon to come. dont know why you guys are having problems with them

**c5z28** · 08-17-2008, 10:04 AM

Your not racing a cobra if it has a gt hood on it, the Mach1's have gt hoods but they have only 310 horsepower, the cobras were talking about have 385 hp watch this link, move the vid feed to 5 minutes to see what a stock cobra does in the quarter mile. I you are racing one of these and beating him stock the driver doesn't know how to shift.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...SVT_164496.htm

**adam0321** · 08-17-2008, 01:05 PM

it was a joke because so many mustang owners throw snakes on there car and pass them off as cobras. I know the ones I am racing are cobras. but my car is not stock I am pushing over 450rwp

**RedFenix_68** · 08-17-2008, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Pro50gt

Cobra with ease stock. And also.....Anyone who races a Terminator aint running it stock. Easy HP gains.

where at in cali are you located

**c5z28** · 08-17-2008, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by adam0321

i crushed one out hear in panama city. but the thing I always wonder is if it is a cobra or a gt with a snake on it. but there are 3 around hear that I have counted and I have raced two of the 3 and walked around them(99,m6,ms3,2.5-5.3l heads,fast 92/92,true duals moser m9w 410,and full bolt ons 100shot soon to come. dont know why you guys are having problems with them

How can you ask why were having problems with them if you have over 150 more horses than me

with those items you listed in your past thread how much power are you expecting? What do you have in your current setup that is giving you 450 horses?

**adam0321** · 08-18-2008, 07:09 AM

it was a joke. sorry I know a stock ls1 has a tough time with a termite..I mean terminator. I have a 99m6,ws6,moser m9, 4.10,2.5 5.3l heads,ms3,fast92/92,36lb injectors,tbp&p,true duals,slp lid,160stat,no cats,headerslt, and some other stuff I am sure I am forgetting. and offcourse sfc's stb and lca's. and drag radials

**adam0321** · 08-18-2008, 07:11 AM

o sorry you probaly meant money right?? well the ls7 clutch,m9 and suspencion upgrades were about 3,100. and all the engine componets total about 3,000. but I have pieced it together over time

**SpecterGT260** · 08-18-2008, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89

i race more then one back when my car was bone stock and seems like the power band is set up better of a ls1 car. the ls1 as we all know has more high end power then a normal v8 and a 4.6 dohc super charged has 390 hp 390 tq .... true but what 70% of the ls1 guys dont know is a 03 04 cobra has 342 gears just like us and just so happens to have a t56 just like us. when ur run the cars to redline side by side 1st gear they will pull by 1/2 car 2nd gear when they shif they are over theer power band to then we have the upper hand with hp not much but sill a drivers race once our cars get in 2 gear by the time u shift in to 3rd u shuld have made up that 1/2 car and then pulled about a car or so.. 3rd gear shuld hold them off and get 1/2 car more but if u go much more then 1/4 mile when u hit 4th the cobra has more power and will come back.

im pretty sure they have 3.27 gears but ive been wrong before.

and yes, they have a t56, but the gear set is completely different. they have a much better 1st gear than we do.

**adam0321** · 08-18-2008, 03:48 PM

its like a ricer/cavalier. you can do whatever you want to them but at the end of the day its still a mustang. the most popular car for women. when you want to look fast but arent

**adam0321** · 08-22-2008, 10:03 AM

waiting to come up against a gt 500. would like to see how I stand against a new zr1....i am sure i would be looking at his taillights.

**Eric1987** · 08-25-2008, 06:45 PM

How the fuck did a 500 horsepower car only do 12.8 in the 1/4?

**Y2KPewterSS** · 08-25-2008, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Eric1987

How the fuck did a 500 horsepower car only do 12.8 in the 1/4?

Lack of traction.

**Eric1987** · 08-26-2008, 01:30 AM

Sure as hell didnt look like it...

**Cronex** · 08-26-2008, 10:37 AM

If you know how to drive and the terminator driver doesn't you can easily win. Alot of Termi owners down here don't know how to launch and I usually rape them out of the hole, they spin. But granted, if both are experienced drivers then the Terminator should win stock for stock.

**Transamapleleaf** · 08-26-2008, 11:27 AM

Everyone get the tissue out and get ready to cry. I sold my WS6 last April in order to move to Manila and work for a call-center teaching English. I lasted only a few months before my former employer in Canada made me an offer too sweet to turn down. I came back home and immediately searched for a WS6. I didn't have the money and was looking on GM dealership lots here in Vancouver so I could finance it. Nothing here for sale.
I needed wheels to get to and from work. I decided to take the kids out shopping at the Auto-Mall and we looked for a nice 4 cyl or mini-van family transportation. We walked through the used car section of a big Ford dealership. I drooled over the new Shelby Cobra convertables. I walked back to the used section and my 11 yr old son and 6 yr old daughter were playing in a 2003 Mach1...yellow, lowered and customized. Dealer told me the guy traded it in on a black Shelby KR. He saw the smile on my face. He threw the keys at me and told me to pay him in 3 months. 90 days no payments...bank rate financing after that...$22K plus tax. I laughed. He was right...I can't buy a mini-van or a front drive 4 cyl car...can't do it. So I bought a Ford Mustang.
The 03 Mach1 is basically an 02 SVT Cobra with ram air and a few other changes. Nice ride. Smooth as silk. The previous owner put the Diablosport Predator tuner in it and headers, K&N airbox with Flowmasters and P-Nero-Zero's. He lowered it a little. The car has the 5 speed manual. Very nice civilized ride. Easy to drive this car. I drive it like grandma. Dealer told me they dyno's it at around 336 hp to the rear wheels. It has the sub frame connectors too and big solid sway bars...nice Brembo brakes and Tokico shocks. Very fast muscle car and looks cool too with the shaker hood.
This car is missing something though. I don't feel the same behind the wheel of this car. I "felt" different behind the wheel of my WS6. The WS6 had the SLP package with the Loudmouth and tune and lowering kit...the one for $3.5K on the website. The TA was so much more fun to drive. It was louder and it was wayyyyyy faster. The TA had a certain something I can't place my finger on. It shifted better. The Mach1 has a shifter that feels like a 1993 Escort... cheap feeling. The clutch is crap too. The seats are uncomfortable. I now know why chics drive Mustangs...this is a soccer mom's car. I find myself singing Shania's "Man...I Feel Like a Woman" behind the wheel of this Mach1.
The Mach1 Registry site and forums is loaded with guys telling about all the technical problems and mechanical issues with the cars. The TA is reliable and they don't break down if you drive them like grandma. The Ford will up and die on you for no appearant reason. The Mach1 owners all have to pull this out and replace it or repair that or fix this or complain about this and that. The TSB page on the site is a week's worth of reading.
I miss my WS6. I wept when the guy who bought it from me drove away. I want it back. I see one pass by on the road and I hang my head and cry. I miss you guys. I miss my TA. The Mustang I have is as good as they ever made. We can all bolt stuff on to the car and make it go fast. I buckle my 6 yr old daughter in the back seat with her friend and take them to ballet lessons on Saturday. I drive it like a family car. I just notice the TA is a better ride. The TA was a better car.