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    trans am 00 ws6
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    i have the gold car cover for this car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Method View Post
    That's a pretty bold statement, it's worth as much as someone will pay for it, not all of us are on a tight budget like you.
    it has nothing to do with budgets. it is not a collector car by any means right now.
    some people seem to forget they stopped selling these cars because there wasnt enough buyers just a few years back.
    paying anywhere near the asking price=
    2000 nhra edition formula
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    well has anyone seen this car yet or bought it?

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    I decided against going to look at it... Had it been a 99 30th it would prolly have been in my garage...

    -me

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    it has nothing to do with budgets. it is not a collector car by any means right now.
    some people seem to forget they stopped selling these cars because there wasnt enough buyers just a few years back.
    paying anywhere near the asking price=
    I don't agree. I think they stopped production because a)some corporate GM idiot (Bob Lutz) dropped the ball on getting a workable 5th generation design going, and b)some corporate GM idiot (Bob Lutz) took a ride in a Holden down under, and had a brain fart, and decided that an LS1 Holden with a GTO badge would sell like crazy in the states.

    GM is a company in crisis. Read what this complete moron Lutz has to say about new industry fuel requirements, and how they are going to raise the cost of the average GM vehicle by $6,000.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080115/...w_gm_fuel_dc_2

    This headline was "Farked" as "GM says new fuel requirements will add $6000 to the prices of their cars. Toyota engineers point and laugh."

    Fark.com for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about.

    The F-body, with its Nationwide fanclubs and enthusiasts, was done an extreme injustice by GM when it was canceled.

    This Limited Edition Firehawk is most certainly a collectible, and citing Trans Am/Firebird's cancellation as a reason that it is not doesn't add up. It simply adds fuel to the argument that GM is going to hell in a handbasket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000LS1Bird View Post
    I don't agree. I think they stopped production because a)some corporate GM idiot (Bob Lutz) dropped the ball on getting a workable 5th generation design going, and b)some corporate GM idiot (Bob Lutz) took a ride in a Holden down under, and had a brain fart, and decided that an LS1 Holden with a GTO badge would sell like crazy in the states.

    GM is a company in crisis. Read what this complete moron Lutz has to say about new industry fuel requirements, and how they are going to raise the cost of the average GM vehicle by $6,000.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080115/...w_gm_fuel_dc_2

    This headline was "Farked" as "GM says new fuel requirements will add $6000 to the prices of their cars. Toyota engineers point and laugh."

    Fark.com for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about.

    The F-body, with its Nationwide fanclubs and enthusiasts, was done an extreme injustice by GM when it was canceled.

    This Limited Edition Firehawk is most certainly a collectible, and citing Trans Am/Firebird's cancellation as a reason that it is not doesn't add up. It simply adds fuel to the argument that GM is going to hell in a handbasket.
    i dont agree with above.
    look at the sales of mustangs compared to f-bodies.
    blaiming bob lutz is b.s if you ask me.
    at the end of the day GM is out to make money just like any business.
    if the f-bodies were turning enough of a profit, they still would of been selling them.
    fan clubs mean squat when money isnt being made

    collectible is opinion. as of now, i dont see any of our cars collectible.

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    GM hasn't turned a profit in quite some time.

    And Trans Am/Z28s are holding their resale pretty well right now, because there's nothing equivalent to them on the road right now for the $$, and they still have a nationwide following.

    So I think you are wrong on both counts. And Lutz continues to make a fool of himself, he's the man upstairs, so he's got to take the heat when GM messes up.

    Ford Mustangs outselling F-bodys? Yes, but did the GTO outsell the Firebird? Not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by predator View Post
    I decided against going to look at it... Had it been a 99 30th it would prolly have been in my garage...

    -me
    Only 139 10th anniversary hawks was made

    30th anniversary Trans Am 1600 Made

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    yeah i know... and i had to really think about it to say no... but i just dont like the car enough...

    Lets say i bought the car... well i love the black and gold and the fact that the car came like that would give me the right to keep it that way and no one could say it looked like shit...

    But, I like the ws6 hood better (so i replace that and stipe it gold), i hate the slp wing (so there goes that), and those rims.... (cya!!! yes i woudl go back with some sort of gold, but nothing like that)...

    I would get down with it and it woudl have the door emblems and floormats in it...

    The only reason i would buy it is because of what it was and that i could have a black and gold car with a good excuse for it to be black and gold... cause come on if im gonna actually do soemthing myself im going black and charcoal

    -me

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000LS1Bird View Post
    GM hasn't turned a profit in quite some time.

    And Trans Am/Z28s are holding their resale pretty well right now, because there's nothing equivalent to them on the road right now for the $$, and they still have a nationwide following.

    So I think you are wrong on both counts. And Lutz continues to make a fool of himself, he's the man upstairs, so he's got to take the heat when GM messes up.
    we could both keep on debating on what these cars will be worth one day, but the reality is either one of us could be right or wrong. neither of us can see into the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by predator View Post
    yeah i know... and i had to really think about it to say no... but i just dont like the car enough...

    Lets say i bought the car... well i love the black and gold and the fact that the car came like that would give me the right to keep it that way and no one could say it looked like shit...

    But, I like the ws6 hood better (so i replace that and stipe it gold), i hate the slp wing (so there goes that), and those rims.... (cya!!! yes i woudl go back with some sort of gold, but nothing like that)...

    I would get down with it and it woudl have the door emblems and floormats in it...

    The only reason i would buy it is because of what it was and that i could have a black and gold car with a good excuse for it to be black and gold... cause come on if im gonna actually do soemthing myself im going black and charcoal

    -me
    Sounds kinda like you want a 98 Hurst/Lingenfelter T/A

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    still yuck on the rims... but yeah thats alot closer... If i bought that car thats what it wiould eld up looking like...

    -me

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    Found it again with price this time. and better pictures on ebay
    Link>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-...em170193823301

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    It's sitting on their showroom floor.

    Talk to Jeff who has this car. They need the $18k figure posted on the ebay sale for the car. I am hoping to go look at it tonight after work if I can get down there before they close up.

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    Wow. Nice ride. There aren't many cars that I would sell/trade my stock 02 WS6 w/ 26k miles for but this would be one of them.

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    If I had an extra $18k, that thing would be in my garage tonight.

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