HDTV's

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 01:36 AM

looks to be similar to the american lnt4053, very nice sets samsung did a very nice job with their newest lcd line.

**01RaptorTA** · 10-25-2007, 01:43 AM

My dad just bought a 48" Samsung HD DLP for 1200. Its been a couple months now, but best buy was running an HD deal on DLPs so we got one. Ive heard plasmas dont last as long and are a rape and a half on repair costs. I love the DLP though. Sports on this TV is pure sex. Only bitch was getting the HD reciever for our cable, and then an HD dvd player. But its worth it.

**texinteg** · 10-25-2007, 03:53 AM

Thought this might help..

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Will the heat from the fireplace harm the plasma TV?

There are a few precautions to take before hanging a plasma screen TV over your fireplace. First, take a thermometer and tape it to the wall above the mantel, in the place where the plasma TV will reside. Then build a fire, and let it roar awhile. Now, check the thermometer. If the temperature is above 90 degrees F, then the area is receiving too much heat -- either escaping from the front of the fireplace and rising up the face, or radiating through the chimney to warm the outside wall -- for a plasma TV to hang there without receiving some modicum of residual damage. It would not be advisable to run the plasma for a long period of time while its environment is this hot. Though the Plasma TV has its own cooling system, the surrounding heat will force the Plasma display to work harder to cool itself, thus shortening the overall lifespan of the unit over time. A Plasma TV may still be run for short periods of time without harming the unit (even with the environment heat at 90 degrees F or above).

If the plasma display is not turned on while a fire burn in the fireplace, then the unit will not be harmed at all even though the temperature surrounding the unit may be warm. Of course, this might not be an option for people living in places where winter lasts seemingly forever, and fires are an everyday fact of life. In such cases, you should be advised to monitor the amount of heat your plasma display is exposed to while it is running.

Can the Plasma TV be mounted onto a brick fireplace?

Yes, cement anchors may be used with the wall mount to secure this application. Again, the amount of heat to which your plasma is exposed should be a concern here, as some brick fireplaces can radiate quite a bit of heat.

Will the Plasma Display TV be too high? Can I tilt it?

Even though plasma TVs typically have a 160-degree viewing angle, tilt wall mounts may be purchased if the mantel is high. A tilt wall mount application will allow the user to tilt the unit from up to 15 to 25% vertically (in this case, downward). With this mounting installation the user will have the choice between a flat or tilted affect while adding only 1.75 inches depth to the plasma TV. A flat wall mount can add as little as 1.25 inches to the depth. So, the difference is only half an inch.

Can I just place the plasma on the mantel?

A typical table stand for a Plasma TV is between 4 and 6 inches in depth. If your mantel can accommodate such a plasma TV stand, you have it made.

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...fireplace.html

**texinteg** · 10-25-2007, 03:55 AM

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Plasma:

The Good: Plasma HDTV's have the best picture... period. They last about 25,000-60,000 hours before starting to lose thier texture, and are very reliable.
Just so you know:

60,000 hours is 27 years @ 6 hours a day.

The Bad: As far as plasma TVs go, that danger of burn-in has been greatly exaggerated. Burn-in occurs when a relatively static image such as a stock ticker, a network logo, or a letterbox bar gets etched permanently onto the screen. The potential for burn-in is greatest during the first 100 or so hours of use, during which time you should keep contrast rather low (less than 50 percent) and avoid showing static images or letterbox bars on the screen for hours at a time. After this initial phase, plasma should be as durable as any television technology. Many panels also have burn-in-reduction features, such as screensavers and pixel orbiting. Under normal viewing conditions, you should have nothing to worry about. The picture quality of plasma TVs varies considerably depending on the make and model.
Also, once a Plasma TV starts to dim, there's no coming back. Once the actual Plasma loses its dexterity and ambiance, it only goes downhill from there.

If you can afford Plasma, don't be afraid to purchase. Just make sure that the first 100 hours its turned on and off alot to reduce the chances of any burn in. New Plasma TV's are getting better by the day, and this issue is slowly starting to fade away.

**ntimid8r** · 10-25-2007, 05:49 AM

Plasma:
Pro's; Excellent performance with black (better than lcd), cost is much less than lcd
Con's; Color display is not as good as lcd, takes more energy to run, weigh more than lcd

LCD:
Pro's; Excellent color performance, lightweight, no burn in issue at all, uses less power
Con's; Black performance "okay", typically more expensive

LCD is the newer technology, it uses 3 layers of lcd for each color. Plasma uses gas tubes and combined with certain voltages creates the color spectrum.

There's always a variance between brands and models too. Top of the line lcd brand is Samsung, but cost for these is huge. Vizio has the best "bang for the buck" in lcd. Not the best picture as compared to Samsung but most people wouldn't know the difference.

Plasma is a great value. Although I wouldn't want to game on one for the fear of burn in. Picture wise, plasma offers great performance. Light bulb life is about the same as lcd. Panasonic and Pioneer are top of the line brands for plasma.

Both technologies have 1080p display available, but not on all models. TV broadcast max level is 1080i, currently. Costco has good selection and good prices on all tv's.

I've done a little research on this stuff.

**DanWS6** · 10-25-2007, 05:57 AM

I've picked out a 61" 1080p Samsung DLP with LED for the color wheel.. $2000 shipped.

Now I just need a job.

**ntimid8r** · 10-25-2007, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by DanWS6

I've picked out a 61" 1080p Samsung DLP with LED for the color wheel.. $2000 shipped.

Now I just need a job.

I have the Samsung DLP 61" model HL-T6187S for my main tv. Although this one is the replacement from samsung because my previous model was a lemon and they finally agreed to replace it.

My other "gaming" tv is a Toshiba 42" LCD model 42HL167 I got this one from Sears with a couple of coupons for $1400.00

Both tv's are really nice.

**DanWS6** · 10-25-2007, 06:07 AM

Yeah that's the model I want... $2049...

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by ntimid8r

Plasma:
Pro's; Excellent performance with black (better than lcd), cost is much less than lcd
Con's; Color display is not as good as lcd, takes more energy to run, weigh more than lcd

LCD:
Pro's; Excellent color performance, lightweight, no burn in issue at all, uses less power
Con's; Black performance "okay", typically more expensive

LCD is the newer technology, it uses 3 layers of lcd for each color. Plasma uses gas tubes and combined with certain voltages creates the color spectrum.

There's always a variance between brands and models too. Top of the line lcd brand is Samsung, but cost for these is huge. Vizio has the best "bang for the buck" in lcd. Not the best picture as compared to Samsung but most people wouldn't know the difference.

Plasma is a great value. Although I wouldn't want to game on one for the fear of burn in(Unless you're leavin that game on pause for close to a week or more you're not going to see any image retention unless its in the first 100 hours of the tv's life). Picture wise, plasma offers great performance. Light bulb life is about the same as lcd(...uh what bulb?). Panasonic and Pioneer are top of the line brands for plasma.

Both technologies have 1080p display available, but not on all models. TV broadcast max level is 1080i, currently. Costco has good selection and good prices on all tv's.

I've done a little research on this stuff.

there is no definitive best brand, it depends on who's buyin the tv as far as which brand is best, samsung does make some really good stuff tho thats for sure and have made some really interesting new implementations as well. the power variance between the two is measured at maximum draw which if they're operating at is going to short the life on either technology. both are energy star certified and use very little energy

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by ntimid8r

I have the Samsung DLP 61" model HL-T6187S for my main tv. Although this one is the replacement from samsung because my previous model was a lemon and they finally agreed to replace it.

My other "gaming" tv is a Toshiba 42" LCD model 42HL167 I got this one from Sears with a couple of coupons for $1400.00

Both tv's are really nice.

toshiba brought along some nice new changes for this year on their regza line good stuff

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 10-25-2007, 07:32 AM

I have been happy with my Mits 62" DLP. I like the fact I can have all the windows open and still see the picture fine.

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert

I have been happy with my Mits 62" DLP. I like the fact I can have all the windows open and still see the picture fine.

mits makes awesome DLP's, only one's with proprietary technology with Texas Instruments, interesting fact for everyone- mitsubishi made the first rear projection television in late 1979

**440 rwhp trans am** · 10-25-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by BadBlueBird*

I currently have a 32" Westinghouse w/ an amazing picture for the price but Im in love with the Samsung 42" I think..

the samsung 42'' lcd is on sale at walmart for $999 what a great deal!!!

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am

the samsung 42'' lcd is on sale at walmart for $999 what a great deal!!!

which model tho? samsung has a ton of different models and none of them perform equally. a lot of the time the less expensive ones dont do as well on your standard def content and even tho there are quite a few channels in HD there's still far more that are not in hd so performance on your standard def stuff should definately be evaluated as well as black level performance (on any tv) and motion processing (especially on LCD's)

**440 rwhp trans am** · 10-25-2007, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

which model tho? samsung has a ton of different models and none of them perform equally. a lot of the time the less expensive ones dont do as well on your standard def content and even tho there are quite a few channels in HD there's still far more that are not in hd so performance on your standard def stuff should definately be evaluated as well as black level performance (on any tv) and motion processing (especially on LCD's)

i dont know i think it was like 14500/900. i think. i forget. when i bought mine i compared the same tvs and walmart was 500 cheaper

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am

i dont know i think it was like 14500/900. i think. i forget. when i bought mine i compared the same tvs and walmart was 500 cheaper

be sure to be careful because like the mits dlp's that costco carries look very similar and the model number is only different by a character or two but it is toned down in some major way as compared to the ones carried by CC, BBY, Ultimate, Frys and others

**Pewter Pro-Tec** · 10-25-2007, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

be sure to be careful because like the mits dlp's that costco carries look very similar and the model number is only different by a character or two but it is toned down in some major way as compared to the ones carried by CC, BBY, Ultimate, Frys and others

No freaking wonder why I can't find any reviews or this tv on Mitsi's site. I was looking at the Mitsu WD-C657 at costco 65" DLP. Any way I can find out how it is different from the ones at CC,BBuy and others?

Locally the only 2 choices I have are Sears and Costco. Yesterday at Sears out of all their DLP's on display they only had 2 in stock, and they were 40" and smaller. Order time is anywhere from 10 days to a month!

**94z28l** · 10-25-2007, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Pewter Pro-Tec

No freaking wonder why I can't find any reviews or this tv on Mitsi's site. I was looking at the Mitsu WD-C657 at costco 65" DLP. Any way I can find out how it is different from the ones at CC,BBuy and others?

Locally the only 2 choices I have are Sears and Costco. Yesterday at Sears out of all their DLP's on display they only had 2 in stock, and they were 40" and smaller. Order time is anywhere from 10 days to a month!

toned down processor, 1 less hdmi, its well below their medallion line i know that for sure, does not use their plush 1080p or turbolight 180w bulb some others i know i'm missing

**Pewter Pro-Tec** · 10-25-2007, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

toned down processor, 1 less hdmi, its well below their medallion line i know that for sure, does not use their plush 1080p or turbolight 180w bulb some others i know i'm missing

Well fuck that shit! I was wondering why the DLP's at costco have 2 HDMI's and almost all the ones at Sears have 3. I am moving into a new place 1st of November and was looking for my first HDTV.

I guess its Sears for me. I am probably gonna buy the one 40" sony they have in stock and exchange it when they get more in. Hopefully they have more stuff after black Friday. Damn Sears get some more DLP's!

**Pewter Pro-Tec** · 10-25-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by 94z28l

be sure to be careful because like the mits dlp's that costco carries look very similar and the model number is only different by a character or two but it is toned down in some major way as compared to the ones carried by CC, BBY, Ultimate, Frys and others

How about the Philips LCD's at Costco? Are they downgraded as well? I don't remember the exact model but it's 52" and I do remember they have 3 HDMI's.