Just bought a vette.. couple questions

**1986camarojoe** · 11-20-2009, 10:58 PM

So last weekend I picked up an 04 c5 has pretty much full bolt ons and a vortech supercharger. I was flipping thru the owners manual and it said to use 6.5 qts of oil.. Does a corvette have a bigger pan?? my z28 takes 5.5 qts which is why I ask. Also with the supercharger it has a blackwing filter instead of the stainless steel CAI I usually see on supercharger setups.. Idk if thats a problem or not. I know I had more questions but cant remember..

**Crimson Vette** · 11-21-2009, 05:19 AM

C5s have the oil pan with the "wings" on each side. Here's the reason:

One of the unexpected challenges of the C5 vehicle development program centered around the LS1’s control of oil drainback and oil supply during high rpm operation with the vehicle sustaining maximum lateral acceleration (max. lat.), In February of '95, during maximum lateral acceleration testing on the skid pad at the GM Desert Proving Ground, problems with engine oiling began to crop up that were unrelated to earlier difficulty with cylinder case porosity. There may have been half-a-dozen or more engine failures due to this new problem. There was much head-scratching about why C5s were popping motors as if it were happy hour at a Winston Cup qualifying day.

By the end of the first quarter of 1995, it was established that the trouble was caused by two problems: 1) crankcase windage. The LS1's deep-skirted block, six-bolt main bearing caps and a higher oil level that goes with a shallower oil pan effectively divided the crankcase into four distinct "bays." Early blocks did not allow efficient transfer of air between bays as the pistons moved in their bores. At high rpm, the violent turbulence caused by this absence of pressure relief aerated the oil. This problem also restricted oil drain-back from the upper end of the engine. The combination of oil foaming and poor drainback degraded the oil supply. 2) lateral acceleration. At "max. lat.", oil level in the pan could reach a 45 degree angle from horizontal. Combine these two problems, sustain them for several seconds and, often, the oil pickup would suck air and oil pressure would be lost. No pressure meant certain engine bearing failure and that brought premature end to the testing excitement.

Throughout the summer and fall of 1995, the lights burned late in Powertrain Headquarters at GM's "Tech Center" in Warren Michigan. In the end, three solutions were found. First, to address the oil foaming and poor drain-back, the structure of the Gen III case was modified to allow pressure transfer between bays. Second, to improve oil supply at max. lat., a complex oil pan design incorporating sump extensions (the bat wings), extensive baffling and trap doors was devised. Third, to help with with the first two problems, the oil capacity was increased from four to six quarts.

**1986camarojoe** · 11-21-2009, 09:17 AM

Sooo 6.5 qts it is??

**Crimson Vette** · 11-21-2009, 10:42 AM

Yes 6.5 but its nice to have more just in case.

**Mr. Hyde** · 11-21-2009, 11:41 AM

Congrats on your Vette purchase!

**402 Guru** · 11-21-2009, 02:58 PM

yes 6.5 quarts and no more .more than 6.5 quarts will cause big problems in the future . Nice but the c5 vetts are the last vetts to use real welding on the frames the c6's are held together by 3m sticky tape what a shame to go cheap with a sports car anyways Nice buy on the vetts can i ask hou many miles u got on it and the price u got it 4 ??

**402 Guru** · 11-21-2009, 03:00 PM

crimson vette nice detailed reply

**SHines-IT** · 11-21-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by un17real

yes 6.5 quarts and no more .more than 6.5 quarts will cause big problems in the future . Nice but the c5 vetts are the last vetts to use real welding on the frames the c6's are held together by 3m sticky tape what a shame to go cheap with a sports car anyways Nice buy on the vetts can i ask hou many miles u got on it and the price u got it 4 ??

Really? But what is the C6 held together with? I want a C5 for my next Vette.

**1986camarojoe** · 11-21-2009, 06:57 PM

Its got 45k miles. I got it for 22 grand. Love it

**SHines-IT** · 11-21-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Its got 45k miles. I got it for 22 grand. Love it

Vert?

Down here 23-24K will by a 02-03 Zo6 with 35,000-45,000 miles.

**1986camarojoe** · 11-21-2009, 07:05 PM

Not a vert and Its got more power than a zo6

**1986camarojoe** · 11-21-2009, 07:07 PM

Quick picture http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=noztra&s=4

**SHines-IT** · 11-21-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Not a vert and Its got more power than a zo6

Oh I just realized it got a nice blow job, yea Zo6 killer, lol.

**1986camarojoe** · 11-21-2009, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

Oh I just realized it got a nice blow job, yea Zo6 killer, lol.

Blow job.. Im gonna hafta start using that line haha

**SHines-IT** · 11-21-2009, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by 1986camarojoe

Blow job.. Im gonna hafta start using that line haha

Just give me credit, lol... Oh wait? Shit, nvm.

**clint195** · 11-22-2009, 01:28 PM

Looks really nice. What kinda numbers did it put down? BTW where in iowa do you live? Maybe we can run them sometime.

**gnomee** · 11-22-2009, 06:54 PM

Nice care... Also curious about numbers..

**basballny2** · 11-22-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by gnomee

Nice care... Also curious about numbers..

make sure you take good care of that nice care

**1986camarojoe** · 11-23-2009, 08:59 AM

Idk for sure about the numbers. I live in eastern IA near waterloo.. They told me the car has around 500hp. Its got the supercharger, fast 90/90, borla LTs plus full borla exhaust.

**1986camarojoe** · 11-23-2009, 09:04 AM

I just checked on vortech's website and they claim 497hp by slapping this kit on a stock vette. So Im guessing with the intake/tb, exhaust this car should be well over 500hp but I cant say for sure. Also from the receipts I have from the previous owners it's got a new rear end.. not sure on what gears but also a 3000 stall. I know it fries the tires from a 55mph roll..