Urine Test

**JonB** · 04-16-2007, 06:46 PM

Please read.

Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as they see fit. In order to get that paycheck. I am required to pass a random urine test, which I have no problem with.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check, because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sit on their butt. Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check.

Came across this in a myspace bulletin and it makes a very good point. People on any public assistance should have to pass a drug test if they want assistance PERIOD.

**Dax** · 04-16-2007, 06:47 PM

While we're at it, they should probably be steralized, too.

**JonB** · 04-16-2007, 06:55 PM

ha ha yeah that too.

**310stanger** · 04-16-2007, 06:56 PM

I agree, any kind of state or gov assistance should institute any kind of state policies they have with employment. Hence, if your state requires employers to drug test, then yes if you're on welfare your ass better be getting piss tested as well. The problem is, states like the state of nj for example dont have drug testing policies. Its up to the employer. You know damn well welfare junkies are gonna be crying about their rights and all that nonsense as well.

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-16-2007, 06:56 PM

That sounds like the best idea ever

**310stanger** · 04-16-2007, 07:04 PM

I can tell you one thing, if they piss tested people on welfare I'm willing to bet 3/4 of them would be kicked off and would be forced to become members of the work force.

**blackSS01** · 04-17-2007, 07:53 PM

Ever heard of a free country. I fought for this country so you could talk gibberish. I smoke, and I don't give a fuck what people think, do or say. If you can collect a welfare check, I can smoke. Don't bitch about being free, I smoke on my own time, not company time, so a test would only fuck me. This thread is fucking retarded.

**blackSS01** · 04-17-2007, 07:54 PM

Your all judgeing people by smokeing, only god can judge.

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-17-2007, 07:58 PM

If you're dumb enough to smoke weed in the first place, you're dumb enough to make a bad decision.

**blackSS01** · 04-17-2007, 08:02 PM

Thats and ignorant comment. Don't knock something before you try it. Tobacco and booze are much worse, and create more fatalities then weed, get you facts straight.

**blackSS01** · 04-17-2007, 08:03 PM

I am not pushing weed to anyone, I do not smoke anymore, but you all sound fucking stupid.

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-17-2007, 08:09 PM

I'm not ignorant about the subject, and I don't have to try it to see that it does no good.

**blackSS01** · 04-17-2007, 08:16 PM

All the non, never smoked people can think what they want, but Marijuana is legal in some states for many things. Here are a few things you should know, it lowers pressure in the eyes (glacoma) it is great for appetite (eating disorders, and cancer patients) And before I get too indepth, thc with gets you high, which is in all plants on earth; even lettuce has thc, just marijuana has a high enough concentration to get you high. And if you love earth, marijuana produces more oxygen then trees, its photosynthesis is unmatched. Just a few thoughts.

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-17-2007, 08:19 PM

I'm all for marijuana used for medicinal purposes. But as for "recreational use", I haven't been a big fan since I showed up for a lifeguarding shift two years ago, and the guard that had been there for five hours before me was blitzed out of her mind, falling asleep on the stand.

**310stanger** · 04-17-2007, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

All the non, never smoked people can think what they want, but Marijuana is legal in some states for many things. Here are a few things you should know, it lowers pressure in the eyes (glacoma) it is great for appetite (eating disorders, and cancer patients) And before I get too indepth, thc with gets you high, which is in all plants on earth; even lettuce has thc, just marijuana has a high enough concentration to get you high. And if you love earth, marijuana produces more oxygen then trees, its photosynthesis is unmatched. Just a few thoughts.

I think you took the thread too literal. The debate isnt on whether or not weed is good. The whole point is, if they are gonna piss test people that WORK, ie. people that pay taxes, then they should piss test people that collect gov money. Why should I work so someone can stay home and toke? At my old job we had random testing, so I couldnt smoke if I wanted to.

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-17-2007, 08:28 PM

Also, my brother was told he would recieve random drug testing by his probation officer. What did he do? First test, failed it. Dipshit.

**Kjz99z28** · 04-17-2007, 08:44 PM

Yeah. I definitely don't see a problem with the people wanting welfare having to pass the same requirements as the people earning the money. Don't take it as a personal attack, it's not. It's not even a judgement on whether or not smoking is good/bad. Just that if you have to pass the test to earn your own money.. why should you get to smoke all you want, not have to get a job, and get free money from the people that earned it?

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-17-2007, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Kjz99z28

Yeah. I definitely don't see a problem with the people wanting welfare having to pass the same requirements as the people earning the money. Don't take it as a personal attack, it's not. It's not even a judgement on whether or not smoking is good/bad. Just that if you have to pass the test to earn your own money.. why should you get to smoke all you want, not have to get a job, and get free money from the people that earned it?

Couldn't have said it better.

**Kjz99z28** · 04-17-2007, 08:48 PM

**JonB** · 04-17-2007, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

Ever heard of a free country. I fought for this country so you could talk gibberish. I smoke, and I don't give a fuck what people think, do or say. If you can collect a welfare check, I can smoke. Don't bitch about being free, I smoke on my own time, not company time, so a test would only fuck me. This thread is fucking retarded.

Wow

So you actually enjoy paying taxes and working for a living so some high as a kite fuck can sit on his ass and collect welfare. These fucks are the only free ones in this country they get to sit on there ass all day thanks to you working for them all the while being high as a kite, now that's a life living of someone else. I'm not trying to start a political debate because there are many many things are tax dollars are wasted on but that's not the real point. The point is if you want assitance from the government you should have to pass a piss test. If you go to get a job for the government guess what you have to pass a piss test. For that matter most jobs in this country you have to pass a drug test to get hired so why should't people who are trying to get assistance from our government.

I am not judging anyone that smokes weed. I have smoked many times in my life and know many people that still do. I now am in a postion in life were everything I have depends on keeping my job so I choose not to smoke anymore and have't in many years. I just think its bs that some bum can get my tax dollars without haveing to pass a drug test.

Personally I think there should be none of this government assistance crap. It would come down to survival of the fittest, but thats a whole other thread we could start.