raced 2 cobras friday!!!

**blue02Z** · 03-24-2007, 11:31 AM

well, the first one was not as enjoyable as the 2nd. to start off i had just finished aligning the Z and took it for a spin on the highway. i merge on and there is a cobra in front of me with the windows down and the thing sounded soo sweet. i saw him eyeballing me in his side mirror and so i knew he would play. i roll up next to him and give him thumbs up and he nodded and pointed ahead. i yelled across and asked what year it was and he yelled back " '01!!" so i said ok and went 2wice from about 55, the first time i missed 3rd like an idiot so we redid it. on the third honk i nailed it and pulled a half car and then grannied shifted third and he caught up and pulled 1/2 car. when i hit 4th i started to reel him in and when i got next to him he shut down. we slowed and i yelled " what do you have in that thing?" no shit he said it was s/c with full exhuast. i was thinking, for my Z being lightly modded i did pretty f*ckin good. if we went from 75 i proly would of held him off seeing how i could go straight to 4th gear from 3rd. anywho, he was cool as hell and gave the peace sign and i went back to the shop till i got off.

then later that nite, me and my bro found a 98ish cobra with three punks in it that were trying to be cool and speeding and what not. we line up from 70 and he pointed like lets go. so i put it in 3th and waited, he nailed it 1st then i rolled the throttle, pulled hard then played with him alittle, hit 4th and i could see his whole car in my mirrors. my bro hung out the window watching them drop back wich was kind of funny. then i slow down and they did a flyby at WOT and swept between us and a semi. that punk missed us and that truck by maybe 5 feet. i brite lighted him and turned around. so i went 1/1 with the cobras but it was fun as hell. sorry for the novel

**AKIRA** · 03-24-2007, 01:14 PM

Well ya know someone is going to ask, so I will. What mods do you have?

Is that calvin sticker from the back of your car? I had one on my 89 supercharged formula.

**blue02Z** · 03-24-2007, 02:46 PM

yeah, i forgot to list my mods: suncoast creations cold/ram air, S3 ported and polished TB w/bypass, slp maf, LT w/o cats and dual cutouts on 3 inch ORY, magnaflow muffler, BMR SFC. Still stock tune

. i dunno how i hung with the '01 but i think he shoulda walked me. yeah that sticker was on my rear windshield, now it's calvin pissing on 'RICE'

**AKIRA** · 03-24-2007, 03:02 PM

You praised yourself? Hahah

**preston1980** · 03-24-2007, 03:02 PM

Nice Race, sounds close. Do you know how much boost it was runnig?? Just because something is supercharged doesnt mean its going to win every race, the LS1 is a bad motor (bad meaning good) and a stock 01 cobra with a 5 pound charger will be quick, but will not destroy a LS1.

One of my friends put a 6 psi boost powerdine on a 96 GT 4.6 liter and I kept up with him in my 93 TA with full bolt ons and a chip. He was an auto though. Actually I jumped him of the line pretty good with my 4.10 gears.

**blue02Z** · 03-24-2007, 03:55 PM

thanks guys. i dont know much about '01s, didnt they have like 320 hp? when i heard him say it was supercharged i just figured it would of been a stompin, thats why i praised myself. i dunno what kind of boost he had tho. maybe it was my badass drivin

that car sounded soooo nice!!! i started wondering, since i was still on the clock i had one of my tech uniforms on and he proly thought i was racing someone elses carro.

**02sunsetorangeZ** · 03-24-2007, 07:27 PM

HAHA loser... Good kill bro. (01) and with the 98ish.... I was there so u no i already said it was a good kill.

**blue02Z** · 03-25-2007, 08:16 AM

thanx

**andrew rs** · 03-25-2007, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by blue02Z

thanks guys. i dont know much about '01s, didnt they have like 320 hp? when i heard him say it was supercharged i just figured it would of been a stompin, thats why i praised myself. i dunno what kind of boost he had tho. maybe it was my badass drivin

that car sounded soooo nice!!! i started wondering, since i was still on the clock i had one of my tech uniforms on and he proly thought i was racing someone elses carro.

The 320hp was over rated. They had more like 300-305 like the other 4v modular motors before it. They are nice cars tho but they were just over rated in that department.

**preston1980** · 03-25-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by andrew rs

The 320hp was over rated. They had more like 300-305 like the other 4v modular motors before it. They are nice cars tho but they were just over rated in that department.

The 99's were over rated a little (aound 10-15 horsepower), but the 01 Cobra was right on with 320 at the engine, but where the LS1 was dominant was the Torque rating, the 01 Cobra only had 317 Torque, the LS1 had around 340 Torque, and even though they were rated at 310 horse, they really had around 350 horse at the engine. Which make a 01 Trans Am vs a 01 Cobra a 30 horsepower and 25 Torque disadvantage to the Cobra. And to top it off the LS1 responds to mods more efficiently than a 01 Cobra does. So mod to mod the LS1 will keep opening up the gap. Then you have the 5 speed vs 6 speed trannys, and the rear end gears are lower at 3.42:1 vs the Cobras 3.27:1, the F-bods just were faster cars than the Cobras, that was until 2003. Then Ford finally got tired of losing the battle and went with a 8 psi Supercharger, a 6 speed, and 3.55:1 gears. And in 2003 and 2004 the Cobras actually beat the Corvettes, kept up with the ZO6's and desroyed the 98-02 Trans Ams/SS Camaros. Even the new LS2 Vettes are a very close run with a stock 03/04 Cobra. Now the LS7 ZO6, thats a differant story.

**Roastem** · 03-26-2007, 08:14 AM

I thought Motor Trend gave the edge to the stock C5 vs. the stock 03 in testing?

But as I recall, it was only by a hair.

I would have thought that supercharged 01 would have left you in the dust. With those mods, he was prolly putting down about 450 to the wheels, and is just about the same weight as your car.

Good kill on the 98, he was none too bright to race with three people in the car.

**preston1980** · 03-26-2007, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Roastem

I thought Motor Trend gave the edge to the stock C5 vs. the stock 03 in testing?

But as I recall, it was only by a hair.

I would have thought that supercharged 01 would have left you in the dust. With those mods, he was prolly putting down about 450 to the wheels, and is just about the same weight as your car.

Good kill on the 98, he was none too bright to race with three people in the car.

There was 1 comparison in Motortend that gave the win to the C5, but it was comparing Convertables, and it was by like 1 tenth of a sec. But that test must have been flawed, because I have seen a stock 03 vert out run many C5's at the track. And yes a Supercharged V8 should have won, but it depends on the boost level and the Tune. I have seen some pretty porly tuned Supercharged stangs. And a 5 psi charger on a 320 horse engine is only going ot gain around 60 horsepower if thats all thats done to it. Which puts it in the range with a LS1 with a few bolt ons.

**Roastem** · 03-26-2007, 11:00 AM

Yeah, my 01 put down 315 rwhp with full exhaust, intake, chip, and gears. I know, hardly LS1 modability.

With a 10 lb AFTERCOOLED Procharger I think she would have put down something in the 425~450 range.

You are right, I do remember that test being two verts now that you mention it.