2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS lapped Nurburgring in 8:2

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07-22-2008, 09:23 PM
trev0006

2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS lapped Nurburgring in 8:2

2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS lapped Nurburgring in 8:20
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the base 300 horsepower 2010 Chevrolet Camaro goes from 0-60 in 6.1 seconds while the 400+ horsepower Camaro SS does it in 4.6 seconds. But for those of you who no longer judge performance by 0-60 times or quarter mile runs and look Nurburgring lap times as the new standard for performance - we’ve got some Camaro Nurburgring news for you.

According Doug Houlihan, GM’s chief engineer for global rear-wheel-drive vehicles, the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS lapped the Nurburgring in 8:20. Not bad for the Camaro who is definitely not looking to show up the Nissan GT-R or the upcoming Acura NSX.
07-22-2008, 09:36 PM
Spikito

we need some comparison times
07-22-2008, 09:40 PM
SouthernBornThriller

8 seconds with google netted me this list:
Looks a little dated, but meh.

6:59 --- Ferrari 312T, Niki Lauda, German GP, training (1975)
7:06 --- Ferrari 312T, Clay Regazzoni, German GP, race (1975)
*1.2m longer circuit than standard Nordschleife

6:11 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, training (1983)
6:26 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Stefan Bellof, race (1983)
6:41 --- Porsche 956, Group C, Derek Bell
7:50 --- BMW X5 Le Mans V12, Hans Stuck (2001)
*0.232 km longer than current, standard Nordschleife

7:06 --- BMW M3 GTR, 24hrs, test session, Jörg Müller (2003)
7:18.1-- Donkervoort D8 RS (12/2004)
7:19 --- Radical SR3 Turbo (2003), >>> Link
7:20* -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:25 --- Alzen Motorsport Porsche 996, 24hrs race, Uwe Alzen
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl, Autobild July 2004 >>> Link
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma
7:32.5 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (2001) >>> Link
7:36 --- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
7:40* -- Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003)
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004 >>> Link
7:42 --- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
7:43 --- 2006 Corvette Z06
7:43 --- TechArt GT Street (2001)
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine, 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003)
7:45 --- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 (12/2000)
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:46 --- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (1999)
7:47 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381PS (996) (2004)
7:49 --- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
7:50 --- Blitz Supra, 750 PS, Herbert Schürg (1997)
7:50 --- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (1993)
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette CE Z06 >>> link
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)
7:57 --- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS, racing suspension
7:59 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Performance Chassis) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999)
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000)
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002)
8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting)(Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG
8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:06 --- Subaru Impreza Sti spec C - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999)
8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?)
8:10 --- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997)
8:10 --- Donkervoort D8 180R
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (video here)
8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002)
8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999)
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004)
8:13 --- BMW M5 (E60) (12/2004)
8:15 --- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 PS
8:15*-- Holden GTS (2000), *estimated
8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:16 --- AC-Schnitzer E36 M3 CLS II, 350 PS (11/1997)
8:16 --- AC Schnitzer Z4 V8 Topster (01/2005)
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003)
8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2
8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000)
8:18 --- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (09/2003)
8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997)
8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002)
8:22 --- BMW E46 M3 (12/2000)
8:22 --- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS (10/1998)
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004)
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003)
8:23 --- Porsche 996 Carrera 4
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004)
8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP
8:25 --- Callaway C12
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VI (11/1999)
8:25 --- Mitsubishi Carisma GT Evo VII (11/2002)
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001)
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003)
8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS(also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000)
8:28 --- Nissan Skyline GTR, 277 PS
8:28 --- Porsche 993 Carrera 2
8:29 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG (05/2000)
8:29 --- Audi S4 4.2 Avant (11/2003)
8:30 --- Maserati Coupé Cambiocorsa (10/2002)
8:31 --- Ferrari F355 GTS, 380 PS
8:32 --- BMW M Roadster, 321 PS (09/1997)
8:32 --- BMW Z4 3.0 SMG (05/2003)
8:32 --- Porsche Boxster S
8:32 --- Volkswagen Golf R32
8:34 --- Acura NSX, 276 PS
8:34 --- BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i, 231 PS (04/2001)
8:35 --- BMW M3 Coupe, 321 PS
8:35 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz C V8 Sportcoupé (02/2002)
8:35 --- BMW 130i >>> Link
8:36 --- BMW E36 M3 EVO, 321 PS
8:36 --- Alpina-BMW B3 3.3 Coupé (07/1999)
8:37 --- Maserati 3200GT (2002)
8:37 --- Mercedes Benz C32 AMG (09/2001)
8:37 --- Nissan Skyline GTR V-Spec, 350 PS
8:37 --- Subaru Impreza GT Turbo
8:37 --- Honda NSX 3.0 (07/1991)
8:38 --- Honda NSX 3.2 (08/1997)
8:38 --- Mercedes Benz SL500 (12/2001)
8:38 --- Porsche 996 Carrera, 296 PS
8:38 --- Brabus-Mercedes Benz CLK 5.8 (12/1998)
8:39 --- Honda S2000 (01/2000)
8:39 --- Morgan Aero 8 (04/2003)
8:40 --- Holden GTS, on an in and out lap (2000)
8:40 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5 Targa Automatic (07/1997)
8:41 --- Aston Martin DB7 (1999)
8:41 --- Audi S3, 210 PS (06/1999)
8:42 --- Audi S4, 265 PS (08/1998)
8:42 --- Lotus Exige (11/2000)
8:43 --- Honda Integra Type R (12/2000)
8:44 --- Chevrolet Corvette C5
8:45 --- Chevrolet Corvette, 339 PS, automatic
8:46 --- Porsche 993 Carrera S, 285 PS
8:47 --- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS (11/2001)
8:49 --- Jaguar XKR Coupe (07/1998)
8:49 --- Renault Clio Sport V6
8:49 --- Audi TT 1.8T quattro Coupé, 225 PS (11/1998)
8:50* -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (2000)
8:51 --- Mercedes Benz C43 AMG (02/1998)
8:52 --- Mercedes Benz CLK 430
8:58 --- Lotus Esprit Turbo SE (07/1991)
9:09 --- Volkswagen Golf V6 4Motion
07-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Shermanator86

heres a list thats a little more current even has the camaro on it already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

i think its funny the 260hp colbalt it only 2 sec. behind its 400hp big brother, ok really that makes me kind of sad as an f-body fan
07-23-2008, 08:27 AM
furyev

yea i noticed that too (cobalt), i think i'm sticking with my 4th gen and some mods. And when are we all going to be in Germany anyway haha
07-23-2008, 08:34 AM
Y2KArcticSS

I'll just wait until the LS7 is a little cheaper, and slap it as well as a new rear end on my SS, it will be a true 4th gen then, 4th gen car, 4th gen motor. :bravo:
07-23-2008, 02:12 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyev

yea i noticed that too (cobalt), i think i'm sticking with my 4th gen and some mods. And when are we all going to be in Germany anyway haha

:wave:
07-23-2008, 02:55 PM
furyev

oh, damn, you! ha ha :worship: It's cool to see that you like Camaros!
07-23-2008, 03:00 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyev

oh, damn, you! ha ha :worship: It's cool to see that you like Camaros!

yup! and i went around the nürburgring a couple of times. :bow:
07-23-2008, 04:43 PM
wildbanshee

8:20 not a bad time...my eyes start to water after 8 minutes....on Gt4 ....i always sit to close to the tv....always eat that last left just before the long straight away!
07-23-2008, 05:15 PM
furyev

Yea I ran a 7:55 with the '02 Camaro SS on the Nurburgring, in GT4.
07-23-2008, 05:50 PM
adam3566

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyev

Yea I ran a 7:55 with the '02 Camaro SS on the Nurburgring, in GT4.

Yeah because a video game is real life.... :hahano:
07-24-2008, 03:11 AM
konigandy6

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildbanshee

8:20 not a bad time...my eyes start to water after 8 minutes....on Gt4 ....i always sit to close to the tv....always eat that last left just before the long straight away!

B spec!!!!:lol:
07-24-2008, 11:46 AM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyev

Yea I ran a 7:55 with the '02 Camaro SS on the Nurburgring, in GT4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam3566

Yeah because a video game is real life.... :hahano:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildbanshee

8:20 not a bad time...my eyes start to water after 8 minutes....on Gt4 ....i always sit to close to the tv....always eat that last left just before the long straight away!

i love gt4, great game. but the real ring is so scary... the game doesn't reproduce all the hills, it's like a rollercoaster. and the track is really bumpy, too. and feels awfully narrow. the fastest i went was 100 mph in those semi-straights in the middle. 120 on the long straight, but thats speed limited on open track days.
07-24-2008, 12:42 PM
1972_Z-28

Here is a vid of the new ZR1 on the track.

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/07/vette-slays-god.html
07-24-2008, 01:19 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1972_Z-28

Here is a vid of the new ZR1 on the track.

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/07/vette-slays-god.html

appropriate repost would be the correct term?
07-24-2008, 01:20 PM
Eric1987

Wow it beat the STI around the track? Very nice. What does a 2002 SS do around that?
07-24-2008, 01:34 PM
Y2KArcticSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric1987

Wow it beat the STI around the track? Very nice. What does a 2002 SS do around that?

A minute flat....:flex:
07-24-2008, 01:41 PM
Eric1987

That video with the ZR1 was fucking crazy. That guy has some huge ass balls. Taking those corners at 100+
07-24-2008, 02:18 PM
adam3566

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric1987

That video with the ZR1 was fucking crazy. That guy has some huge ass balls. Taking those corners at 100+

Or knows how to drive.....
07-24-2008, 05:41 PM
MasterEvilAce

Quote:

Originally Posted by colesherman86

heres a list thats a little more current even has the camaro on it already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

i think its funny the 260hp colbalt it only 2 sec. behind its 400hp big brother, ok really that makes me kind of sad as an f-body fan

Yeah I saw that too... really makes me not care about the new camaro any. And makes me kind of impressed about the cobalt, actually
07-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Fbody4ever

You're forgetting the cobalt is FWD, not really a muscle car, just something to appease the kids.
Anyway, we all know tuner cars blow factory shit outta the water, so the fact that all these cars are pulling these times doesn't really make a s**t of differance to me. Give cars like Camaros, Cobalts, Stis, Skylines etc. to race teams and see where factors like drivetrain, center of gravity, weight ratio and all that other crap become issues.
And the ZR-1, 2nd to some strange bazillion $ car I've never heard of? -Thats amazing. Big ups to the Skyline too, getting around a track with AWD just as well as some of the street-legal race cars? That is quite a feat.
07-24-2008, 10:03 PM
Shermanator86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fbody4ever

You're forgetting the cobalt is FWD, not really a muscle car, just something to appease the kids.
Anyway, we all know tuner cars blow factory shit outta the water, so the fact that all these cars are pulling these times doesn't really make a s**t of differance to me. Give cars like Camaros, Cobalts, Stis, Skylines etc. to race teams and see where factors like drivetrain, center of gravity, weight ratio and all that other crap become issues.
And the ZR-1, 2nd to some strange bazillion $ car I've never heard of? -Thats amazing. Big ups to the Skyline too, getting around a track with AWD just as well as some of the street-legal race cars? That is quite a feat.

the radical sr8 the zr1 is 2nd to is pretty much a kit car thats under $100k i believe, but its pretty much a race car and is no where near the street car the zr1 is
07-24-2008, 10:55 PM
Fbody4ever

Quote:

Originally Posted by colesherman86

the radical sr8 the zr1 is 2nd to is pretty much a kit car thats under $100k i believe, but its pretty much a race car and is no where near the street car the zr1 is

Don't know why, but I just looked it up on the net. That thing is gay! Looks like something I would drive at my local go-kart track. It has no place on the road.
I've always said I could build a go kart to do 150+ (hell I know 11 yr old kids who do 110 in go kart circuits).
Fuck that shit, ZR-1 is king.
(sorry to drop that F bomb, but sometimes its warranted.)
07-24-2008, 11:00 PM
Shermanator86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fbody4ever

Don't know why, but I just looked it up on the net. That thing is gay! Looks like something I would drive at my local go-kart track. It has no place on the road.
I've always said I could build a go kart to do 150+ (hell I know 11 yr old kids who do 110 in go kart circuits).
Fuck that shit, ZR-1 is king.
(sorry to drop that F bomb, but sometimes its warranted.)

yeah its pretty much an overgrown go-kart, but its a pretty neat little car for what it is, a track toy. its got a v8 made out of to hayabusa bike motors
07-25-2008, 12:39 AM
Spikito

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1972_Z-28

Here is a vid of the new ZR1 on the track.

http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/07/vette-slays-god.html

that video gave me chills, that son of a bitch can drive.

And from what ive always thought, the vette was more of a drag car than a street car. proved me wrong
07-25-2008, 01:33 PM
jonj601

not too impressive with the cobalt 2 seconds behind, makes me kind of upset. whats impressive is the ZR1 right there at the top!
07-25-2008, 01:33 PM
Eric1987

Anyone know what the 2002 SS does?
07-25-2008, 02:02 PM
jonj601

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang=Breakfast

A minute flat....:flex:

that answer is awesome! if chuck norris is driving
07-29-2008, 02:36 PM
furyev

Looks like they removed the Camaro from the times list...
07-29-2008, 02:40 PM
MasterEvilAce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fbody4ever

You're forgetting the cobalt is FWD, not really a muscle car, just something to appease the kids.

That doesn't help the Camaro any, haha... Like, yeah. The cobalt isn't meant to be awesome... the Camaro is designed to be awesome, but only comes in slightly faster than the Cobalt.

Seriously.. that's some messed up logic. Imagine what they could do with the Cobalt if they actually you know... /tried/
07-29-2008, 05:47 PM
ezwip

One day I'll own one. :yay:
07-29-2008, 08:46 PM
Shermanator86

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterEvilAce

That doesn't help the Camaro any, haha... Like, yeah. The cobalt isn't meant to be awesome... the Camaro is designed to be awesome, but only comes in slightly faster than the Cobalt.

Seriously.. that's some messed up logic. Imagine what they could do with the Cobalt if they actually you know... /tried/

really they did try with the ss turbo, everything that has been changed on it from the old supercharged ss was to make it faster not only in a strait line but also around a track, the gm guys that built it even said they were only worried about making it faster and not so much with anything like looks or the interior, hopefully they will make some improvements to the camaro for the 2nd year of production that will improve on some things and make it more than 2 sec faster than a cobalt
08-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Spikito

If you look up the cars higher than the ZR1 on the list, (7:26) i dont think any of them are street legal, hell yeah.
08-02-2008, 08:37 AM
Mr. Luos

Times at that track mean NOTHING to me. Nothing about that track is like the street.
Fun to watch, but that is it.

And I don't see that new SS being 4.6 seconds to 60MPH.
08-02-2008, 11:23 AM
furyev

Mr. Luos,

I completely agree with you...Since the new camaro is a CTS and since it has IRS and weighs too much and has worse aerodynamics than a 4th gen I personally think itll do 0-60 near 5.2 seconds even with 422 hp which is overrated to begin with. Most of the members on camaro5 are newbs to camaros anyway. It seems like 4th gens are being put to shame. Oh yea 23 mpg highway, lol.
08-02-2008, 12:13 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Times at that track mean NOTHING to me. Nothing about that track is like the street.
Fun to watch, but that is it.

And I don't see that new SS being 4.6 seconds to 60MPH.

i beg to differ in one point: that track combines every combination of curves, buckles, uphill-downhill passages, high compression and jumps plus a long high speed straight and high speed curves. anything but dirt or cobblestone pavement. i've experienced that myself on several laps.
the reason why international manufacturers test their cars on the ring is that a car that performs well on there will handle well on any road.

that said, it doesn't tell anything about a cars acceleration and dragstrip capabilities. and those lap times are the combined results of handling, power to weight ratios etc. plus the individual skills of the drivers.

i don't think the nürburgring is the right place to judge muscle cars. those concepts are just not compatible.
08-02-2008, 01:52 PM
furyev

the Nurburgring is the ultimate test of a cars overall performance, I agree with Hamburger. Muscle cars are made for the straights and highway battles. :sword:
08-02-2008, 02:02 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by furyev

the Nurburgring is the ultimate test of a cars overall performance, I agree with Hamburger. Muscle cars are made for the straights and highway battles. :sword:

AUTOBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHNNNNNNN

as you can tell, i don't really have anything to to right now...
08-02-2008, 02:42 PM
Mr. Luos

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamburger68

i beg to differ in one point: that track combines every combination of curves, buckles, uphill-downhill passages, high compression and jumps plus a long high speed straight and high speed curves. anything but dirt or cobblestone pavement. i've experienced that myself on several laps.
the reason why international manufacturers test their cars on the ring is that a car that performs well on there will handle well on any road.

that said, it doesn't tell anything about a cars acceleration and dragstrip capabilities. and those lap times are the combined results of handling, power to weight ratios etc. plus the individual skills of the drivers.

i don't think the nürburgring is the right place to judge muscle cars. those concepts are just not compatible.

To each their own.
The times a car clicks off on that track will not sell me on a particular car.

I fully understand your point, it is a test track. But not real world conditions that the car would see daily.
08-02-2008, 02:52 PM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

To each their own.
The times a car clicks off on that track will not sell me on a particular car.

I fully understand your point, it is a test track. But not real world conditions that the car would see daily.

of course not, it's a handling test, no more no less.
08-03-2008, 07:05 PM
allbaugh_04

watch the drifting at 6:20....i dont see how he only reached a top speed of 175 on that long stretch? maybe the bumps in the road would make him go airborne
08-04-2008, 07:09 AM
hamburger68

Quote:

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

watch the drifting at 6:20....i dont see how he only reached a top speed of 175 on that long stretch? maybe the bumps in the road would make him go airborne

yes, bumpy, also the "döttinger höhe" (name of that stretch) goes uphill and the peak from where it goes downhill again is also the left curve on the end of that straight. the car gets really light there (and in a couple of other places on that track too). so too fast = airborne out of that curve.
08-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Shermanator86

Quote:

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

watch the drifting at 6:20....i dont see how he only reached a top speed of 175 on that long stretch? maybe the bumps in the road would make him go airborne

they said there was a strog head wind that day