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Years ago, I threw a Ram Air hood on to my 2001 TA. I never upgraded the Air Box. Today I saw on Ebay, this air box:
http://i24.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/ae/13/a7d3_1.JPG
Evidently that box saids "RAM AIR" on it. Now, my question for all you TA owners, are the Factory Air box for all 4th generation TAs alike? I'm thinking WS6 Air box has a taller inlet compared to regular TA.
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That is the factory lid with the air silencers, it is no different than your original piece accept for the Ram Air sticker. The WS6 cars do have a taller air box/radiator support but unless you debaffled your hood it's not worth buying. And even then it would only be a marginal gain in power.
yeah, open your hood, and look at the little slit where air actually goes in and up through the filter to the lid. that slit is wider in a 'ram air' by like half an inch or so. the 'lid' itself has NOTHING to do with it.
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't think there were much difference in power gain for a bigger box, unless you change the complete intake. So, I would be proper to say that the OEM hood along with the Air box is more of a gimmick then functionability.
Now that we have somewhat settled on that issue........ where did you get your side vent hood stripes? I have the anniversary stripe on my Red TA... and thinking of side stripes on my silver one when I purchase the hood.
Matthew
half an inch huh? I have never heard of this before. It would be quite unoticeable and not very functional than.... I guess one of those Sun Coast Creation hood with the open airbox would probably work better than the OEM Ram Air hood........
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Originally Posted by sharptransam
The new hood that i bought came with a k&n and also the higher air box.
Man, instead the silver one that I just bought, I really wanted a White one just like yours......... how did you hood fit on? Good increase of hp on the higher air box?
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The hood fit like a glove came prepainted and everything! And also a hell of a lot lighter then the stock one. There was a noticeable difference in the higher rpm's especially with my slp lid.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
where did you get your hood at?
An aftermarket air lid is the best mod along with a cold air kit or the FRA (Free Ram Air) Mod.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
My Blackbird stripes I picked up from http://www.fourthcircledesigns.com He was the only one that had a checkerd pattern stripe. There was another site that was selling them but I don't remember the name. Maybe someone else can chime in.
The suncoast induction design is very unique. I can't think of any other vendor that has a system like the one used by suncoast. I will say this tho. The fitment of the hood is a total bitch because it won't fit perfectly like any of the other hoods, and the nostrils are not styled like the OEM hoods. Also be aware it took 3 times worth of working on my hood to get all the waves out of the primer coat. Its not the best made hood at all and its a real pain in the ass, but if you like the difference in intake size and location, its worth the look.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
I have both items shown above without the factory sticker(13.00$) in new condition if anyone wants em for 20.00$ plus shipping(air lid + air silencer). Let me know.
JR.
Do you have an image of the air lid you are selling? Please post for I'm interested.....
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Originally Posted by jroc
www.ramairhood.comQuote:
Originally Posted by sharptransam
very nice. and the paint matches from hood to front fender? that's pretty hard to beat man. thanks for the info.
yeh they did an awesome job matching the paint. all i did was place the order tell them which paint my car was and they delivered it right to my door step!
I'll invest in one as soon as I rob that bank.:sarge: you got the airbox too or not?
I wouldn't advise going with the airbox. The only setups for induction I recommend is CAI and Suncoast R/A. Trust me, your not gonna gain as much with R/Ahoods.com setup as you would any of the others.
But you know what, for that price, it's really good!!!! 4 years ago, I purchased an OEM hood from YearOne which arrived at my house unpainted, etc. for $1600....
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Originally Posted by sharptransam
Yah, the increase probably would not be very noticeable in comparison to the money invested in the box. I have seen images of TA without Airbox with cone shape protruding air filters at the opening of the hood. I wonder if that's better than the Air box since air induction is from all angle on that type of filter, eventhough it's not very attractive looking.
Matt........................Quote:
Originally Posted by Vertibird54
I bought the dual headed intake from volant. It gave it a pretty good gain as far as intakes go plus i think it looks awesome! plus u gotta love the noise it makes! my suggestion is go for that.
What kind of the noice are you speaking of? Will it tack on to your engine without the extended height of the Air hood? What is the website where you bought this air filter.
Thanks Buddy,
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Originally Posted by malossavich
Check my setup out at my fquick site. It kinda caught all the guys I cruised with last week off guard. :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
very true. Now that these cars aren't new, they are much more reasonable to mod. I just don't want to wait until the equipment gets 'hard to find'.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
Matt. If you were talkin to me about the pics of th air lid , I have the exact same two pieces shown at the top of this thread for sale ( without the sticker).
yeh i got it with the airbox and k&n.Quote:
Originally Posted by sharptransam
Hey Justin,
Will it fit on a Non Ram Air hood? I'm wanting to go for the Ram Air Hood, but strap for cash right now since I just did two TA Exaust system. I don't know when I can do the hood..... but if that box will fit under a normal hood, I possibly will pick it up from you. Can't make any solemn promises about it though.
I can feel the increase from the exaust system, thus, the Ram will make a difference.
Thank you,
Matthew
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Originally Posted by jroc
is this what you guys were talking about with the dual headed intake??
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../100_0177a.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1.../100_0175a.jpg
That's it..... it doesn't seem very difficult to bolt together, though the fitting will probably need to be precise or the hood will not close properly.
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
yeah, do you think that would be any better than getting an air box?? what i'm going to do is put a ws6 hood on a regular TA but i'm trying to find a good place to get the hood/air box.. don't really have a clue where to start or what kind to look for... or if that dual filter set up would be better.. i'm clueless!
I'll take a stab at answering your questions based on my TA ownership. I own a mint TA with Ram Air hood, stripes, etc. that is decked out for show... and a Silver TA without the hood but the exhaust. I completed both the TA exhausts system today. It was nice to work on both of my TAs through the days. My red show car was a Stock where I did all the job on it myself from the slotted rotor, to the hood, the stripes, painting and color sanding, exhaust system, etc. The Ram Air will give your vehicle the sleek look. Though the people on this thread are correct, the air box will not give you much gain in Horsepower compared to the exhaust system... where you can here the the deep rumbled and feel the acceleration.
Here is an image of my dual Chrome 3 inch tips. I installed it myself today. It looks better than my single one that I installed on the Silver one yesterday, though it cost more and pretty much gives off pratically the same performance.... one thing I will mention is the installation is much more difficult based on the Clamp (socket should not be used, Allen Wrench is the way to go though your elbow will feel the pain).....Single 3 inch pipe (Magnaflow 15684: $340), Dual Double Tip Chrome (Magnaflow 16723:$640)
I purchased the original OEM hood from YearOne.com... back then it was 1,500.... now it's 1,800 I wanted an exact fit and had to pay the price.
Depending on what color is your TA, a color Carbon Fiber hood might be the way to go in avoiding to paint. Do an internet search.. I've forgotten the site for those Carbon hoods.
That airbox your were mentioning....... I think that open air dual filter is the best. It's open, sits right infront of the hood opening, easy open access for debris cleaning..... and possible work better than an air box. I think that get up will be costly though.
One thing I will mention is.. with the increase in Horsepower, it's damn fun to step on it and feel the Pontiac Excitement..... though it will suck up your gas. I ran 50 miles in my installed Exhaust to burn out the manfacturing pipe grease and whatever shit that's inside the system... and I notice my Fuel gauge when down nearly a 1/4 of the tank!!!
Happy Trails!
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Originally Posted by M-Ten
oh ok.. thanks for the info ! :) btw your exhaust looks nice on that red TA!
The noise I reffered to is just the sucking of the intake when u give it gas and the release of the pressure in the intake when u turn the car off. Itl take ten ims to install absolute piece of cake everything comes with it. It works fine without the ramair hood I am however planning to buy the raptor hood made for the firehawks. I got mine off ebay, but I checked around and heres one of the cheapest I found. http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...roducts_id=306 This will only fit on a 98 trans am or newer. You will absolutly love this thing.
mallossavich, you have the dual filter set up? do you think it performs better than the air box? any pics of yours?
Correct you are man......... with my new Magnaflow exhaust installed, I can feel the flow and the reduction in back pressure. The flow makes such a big difference..... though my vehicle is still getting used to the new system. I was at the Volant site and did not see the intake system.... you have the precise link.. I would like to price it in for a future purchase.
Matthew
P.S. You are right in A raptor hood would probably work best with your dual filter
why do you say a raptor hood would work better than a WS6 hood for the dual filter intake??Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewaqui
oh and he gave the exact link, here it is again :)
http://dagostinoracing.com/index.php...roducts_id=306
I say this because the Raptor hood has an open nostril without any separation between the inlet. The open inlet gives better flow than that of a separation. Just imagine 4 open windows or that of two big ones without any separation.
You see what I mean?
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oh yeah i get what you're sayin, i still like the ws6 hood better :)