Pierre Gto "beware Of"

A month ago I posted a set of LS1 heads for sale. Pierre GTO was the first to answer. He asked me if I would do $100 dollars shipped. I said yes. Me being the trusting forum member put them in a box and paid a good bit to ship 50 pounds to him before I received payment. I have been around the corvette forum for 2 years and have bought and sold things trusting everyone. Well its a month later and still no payment. He has used the excuse no money. Also we agreed payments to me. Well his excuse was he lost my address. I gave him address again he said he would send me $120 to cover pain and suffering. I said i only wanted the $100 dollars. One month later no payment and he will not answer my pm's. Please do not do business with this man without first getting cash. He tells me he is an honest man .

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Originally Posted by wnmech

A month ago I posted a set of LS1 heads for sale. Pierre GTO was the first to answer. He asked me if I would do $100 dollars shipped. I said yes. Me being the trusting forum member put them in a box and paid a good bit to ship 50 pounds to him before I received payment. I have been around the corvette forum for 2 years and have bought and sold things trusting everyone. Well its a month later and still no payment. He has used the excuse no money. Also we agreed payments to me. Well his excuse was he lost my address. I gave him address again he said he would send me $120 to cover pain and suffering. I said i only wanted the $100 dollars. One month later no payment and he will not answer my pm's. Please do not do business with this man without first getting cash. He tells me he is an honest man .

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Man sorry to hear about this bad deal, bump for ya, good luck with working it out!
--Justin

not tring to be that guy, but you sent without payment there's the first problem. if i knew the person from on here i'm sure i would help them out, but no one that i didn't know. i'll see what i can go. he has/ had a lot of parts for sale maybe you could at least get some parts in trade or to sell. :yup:

good luck.

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Originally Posted by wnmech

A month ago I posted a set of LS1 heads for sale. Pierre GTO was the first to answer. He asked me if I would do $100 dollars shipped. I said yes. Me being the trusting forum member put them in a box and paid a good bit to ship 50 pounds to him before I received payment. I have been around the corvette forum for 2 years and have bought and sold things trusting everyone. Well its a month later and still no payment. He has used the excuse no money. Also we agreed payments to me. Well his excuse was he lost my address. I gave him address again he said he would send me $120 to cover pain and suffering. I said i only wanted the $100 dollars. One month later no payment and he will not answer my pm's. Please do not do business with this man without first getting cash. He tells me he is an honest man .

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People like this ruin it for the rest of us. Sorry to hear that man hope things work out for you.

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Originally Posted by 1fastcamarosss11

not tring to be that guy, but you sent without payment there's the first problem. if i knew the person from on here i'm sure i would help them out, but no one that i didn't know. i'll see what i can go. he has/ had a lot of parts for sale maybe you could at least get some parts in trade or to sell. :yup:

good luck.

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yes you are correct I should of got the money first. Honesty had to start somewhere and he would of had to take the same chance as me where if he would of sent the money I could of been the dishonest guy. My loss in trusting him. His forum name like in the top of this post is pierre gto he is is in the St Louis area. I am not done with this quest yes. I do have his name and address from which I sent the heads. I have also kept every pm from him backing up all my claims.

that sucks.

bump.

Just my 2 cents on this, I was interested in a MAF he had for sale and did a little research on his previous posts and noticed he had a habbit of not responding and also a real big issue on a header sale were he damaged the headers when removing, he said that he explained this to the guy he sold them to and the buyer agreed to the damage but the buyer posted that he was real pised off about it and that he didn't either know about the damage or didn't know the extent of the damage. In any case since I saw all this poor salesmanship I decided not to buy the MAF and told Pierer that in my PM to him.

Good move on your part markzman97. I wish I had done my homework before I got screwed. I hope everyone on this forum has read this post and they will be wiser than I was. I wished I lived closer to St Louis to go over to his residence and get my heads back. They were literally a steal at that price and he did steal them.

I am sure someone else on this forum is in St Louis. I would make buddies with them, and have him go over on your behalf, A lot of times all you need to do is show you mean business and he will pay up. If that don't work you can always report it to the sherriff's office, Sure they may or may not be able to help you out, but how embarrassing for this guy to have the cops pounding on his door a few times, while the neighbors look on wondering what he did.

Then their minds will wonder, , "is he a child molestor" is he a tax evador? did he get busted with drugs..

all it takes is some gossiping neighbors and the presence of a sherriff's car to really make this guy look like the scum bag he apparently is.

I wonder if we have any members that live in Florissant Mo? I would like to split half of what I sold the heads to Pierregto for if they could go over and collect what is owed to me. I see that Pierregto has not been on the forum since 5-29-07. I guess if he doesnt sign on he cant read the last couple of pm's that I have sent him. I have ben very patient during this whole month long process keeping all pm's that we had back and forth promising payment. I really should fly up there and atleast get my heads back from him.

there's another thread in the AAG forum where a member was ripped off of $2600 or so, its titled scam targeting f-body owners or something along those lines, try to follow some of the things that he did

Guys I am happy to report when I got home from work today my heads were sitting in the entry way of my house. Pierre had the decency to send them back to me with no communication from him at all telling me his intentions. I am now only out the cost of shipping the heads [$20]. As soon as I figure out how to relist them for sale I will but I guarantee I will not get burnt again. Thanks for all the support on my beware post.

Cool....glad to hear that. That is a nice surprise. Bet you loved seeing that when you got home.:rockon:

WNMECH, I also some time ship before receiving paymont( I suppose we are from the older days of doing buness, I am 3 months short of 68)thankfuly I have never been stuck, glad you got your heads back with only a 20 loss
good luck,Johnny

glad everything turned out for ya....

wnmech>> good to see you got them back. Unfortunately trust is becoming a lost virtue nowadays.........

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Originally Posted by SS SLP2

WNMECH, I also some time ship before receiving paymont( I suppose we are from the older days of doing buness, I am 3 months short of 68)thankfuly I have never been stuck, glad you got your heads back with only a 20 loss
good luck,Johnny

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Thanks Johnny I am glad to hear that I am not the only trusting person still around. If these heads sell again I will be more cautious. Thanks to all forum members for their support and comments on my issue.

Hey can I buy your car? Please send the signed title and I will send payment. Sucker. lol jk. sorry to hear about that bro. :naughty:

yea thats funny cuz those heads u sent me were 2 big pieces of metal junk I took it to 4 machine shops in St. Louis and they all said that those heads were warped,cracked and that anyone would b a fool to use them on there car. Next time get ur parts cleaned up and checked out before u send them off :ar:

Seeing how he only has 23 posts would have been a good indicator to not send them first. And how the hell did you get charged only twenty bucks to ship 50 lbs.

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Originally Posted by sfletch2000

Seeing how he only has 23 posts would have been a good indicator to not send them first. And how the hell did you get charged only twenty bucks to ship 50 lbs.

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Yes I made a mistake sending these heads to pierregto before I received payment. Answer to your shipping cost question is the folks I work for have a special reduced deal shipping with fed-ex. Pierre said my heads were junk well I have every pm from him saying he is a honest person and he would pay me and never did and he never ever mentioned a problem with my product infact he wasnt even man enough to even say he would return them to me. Today is his first contact with me about our deal. If he wishes to have a moderator look into my pm's to see who is full of s--t then let it happen. Also review post history of pierregto's dealings with other forum members and we will see who is telling the truth.

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Originally Posted by PierreGTO

yea thats funny cuz those heads u sent me were 2 big pieces of metal junk I took it to 4 machine shops in St. Louis and they all said that those heads were warped,cracked and that anyone would b a fool to use them on there car. Next time get ur parts cleaned up and checked out before u send them off :ar:

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Typical - blame game.. :rolleyes:

You have been shady on other threads as well. You have no credibility, and the sheer lack of communication you had with seller (who in good faith sent you the product without recieving payment first) makes it ever so apparent who the real scam artist is here.

Good luck trying to ever buy or sell anything on this forum.

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Originally Posted by PierreGTO

yea thats funny cuz those heads u sent me were 2 big pieces of metal junk I took it to 4 machine shops in St. Louis and they all said that those heads were warped,cracked and that anyone would b a fool to use them on there car. Next time get ur parts cleaned up and checked out before u send them off :ar:

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you should have stepped up and said something before or when this all started you still look bad with no communication good part/ bad part ect. took a long time for you to respond. :think: :lastyear::Poke:

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Originally Posted by PierreGTO

yea thats funny cuz those heads u sent me were 2 big pieces of metal junk I took it to 4 machine shops in St. Louis and they all said that those heads were warped,cracked and that anyone would b a fool to use them on there car. Next time get ur parts cleaned up and checked out before u send them off :ar:

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Pierre can you back up your statement from any of these machine shops telling you that there was a problem with my heads? I have lots of machine shop work done on lots of engines in my time and I have never got heads or any other machine shop to do this for free so can you produce any receipts or any kind of documentation proving your cracked and warped claims? As far as you saying cleaned up I believe the pic's from my add show the heads to be pretty clean. I know from past experiance that heads cannot be checked unless they are clean so if my heads were that bad how did you get them checked? Lets face the truth you are not a dependable person. You did teach me a lesson on how not to trust people but but I will probably not learn from this lesson because there are more good members than people like you.

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Originally Posted by PierreGTO

yea thats funny cuz those heads u sent me were 2 big pieces of metal junk I took it to 4 machine shops in St. Louis and they all said that those heads were warped,cracked and that anyone would b a fool to use them on there car. Next time get ur parts cleaned up and checked out before u send them off :ar:

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So what if they were? You apparently weren't planning to pay for them anyway. Better cred and absence of other threads complaining about transactions with you would make your complaint plausible.

Charlie

kind of a dead horse at this point