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So my fuel pump went out and just had it replaced. My mom said she knew someone that can do it. So when i come home the back was opened up. He had cut the back open with some plyers and gotten the pump out like that. Now my car has to pretty big lines and lots of fumes going into the car. What can I do to seal the lines up and stop the fumes? ? ?
You mean they just cut an access panel above the pump on the rear deck? Cut a piece of aluminum, run a liberal amount of sealer and secure it with short sheet metal screws.
Yeah, what 2001NBMZ28 said. You might also want to check and make sure your "mechanic" didn't spill a bunch of gas on your carpet or inside the trunk while he was removing the old pump.
an experienced mechanic would have dropped the tank and swapped out the pump w/a new one. sure its alittle more work with having to drop the rear suspension but it's a shitload better than hacing a hole cut into your car and the problem(s) that you now face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeroskater1028
do what was said. prime, seal, paint over the hole, clean the carpet, etc. and don't even take it back to that guy again. who knows what me might decide to put a hole in next time other than your wallet...
This makes me think of those old commercials on tv where the two redneck mechanics keep asking- "can I use a hammer on that" to fix it. Sure you can use a hammer to put a battery in.
I'd go kick that guys ass and chew your mom a new ass and ask if she's buying the new carpet and if she's going to fix if for you. Just do it in a nice way to the mom, you gotta respect the parents.
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thanx. thats what my neighbor told me to do. Will do. And i'll go take some pics right now brb with the pics of the hole.
Pull that crap with me you'd be out on your ass looking for a new home and have a severe limpQuote:
Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am
NOBODY gonna talk down to MY woman, ESPECIALLY my kids!
Very common way to do the fuel pump, been recommended innumerable times on this forum
Sounds as though he didn't seal it good enough though, you could have spent $600 to do the job by dropping the tank.
He wanted something fixed not new problems caused by some tard that didn't want to do things the right way. I think your taking what I said a bit the wrong way. There is nothing wrong with telling your parents that you don't like how something went down. I'd think his mom would take his side and go talk to that moron to see what he's going to do to put things how they are supposed to be if he does it right. Obviously you didn't read the end of my post or take it the right way. Then againg maybe your just a prick and don't think kids have a right to say anything no matter what. If that's the case I were your kid I would be out of your house ASAP anyway and got a car later on.
having trouble uploading the pics. WIll be back with before and after results.
Going to try the sheet metal thing right now. Later
Like he said, it's a very common way and not an incorrect way to do it at all. It's a different way. Sure, you have a hole in the back of the car, but as long as it's sealed properly you don't have anything to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbob93
Oh and "going to kick the guy's ass and chewing your mom a new one" isn't exactly the same thing as "telling your parents that you don't like how something went down" now is it. I don't think anyone's arguing that children shouldn't voice their opinion to their parent(s), but they can choose to do it with respect.
Yeah thats what I was thinking..its in how you say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99_natural_beauty
But back to the pump...There is nothing wrong with cutting an access panel in the hatch to access the pump...It will save you alot of hassles later on if the pump should go out again or it turns out not to be the pump and something else is wrong requiring you to access the pump or tank again...
My brother and I did it on his 98TA with no problems,sealed it up tightly and have had NO problems at all...no fumes,weather problems....etc...
People take short cuts all the time when working on cars...a short cut doesn't always mean that you did a bad job or got all "cheap" on the job...Although I would say that from what it sounds like,this guy messed up something...
Maybe he just spilt fuel...maybe worse!I would stop driving the car until I find out WHERE exactly the fumes are coming from and fix the problem.
Good luck and let us know how it goes man..
i finally have pictures to go up.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/...f/DSC05896.jpg
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pretty bad job. so what can i do. I went out and bought two pieces of sheet metal to cover them up and i have 3m gasket sealant, but my friend told me that industrial strength cockin is better. True ? ? ? Just to stay sealed for a good while.
Yeah, that's pretty messed up. First thing is find someone with a cutting tool to cut it out larger (square) so it's flat. Then cut your sheet metal about 1" larger than the hole. Apply whatever sealant. Pre drill some holes about 2" apart and secure with SHORT sheet metal screws. eboggs at LS2 is a friend of mine, did the access panel - I'll look up the link for you.
Looks like he used a hatchet!
Man!
He like hacked the sh*t out of your car!
It should look like this...http://www.worldisround.com/articles/12533/index.html
I would really consider having this guy pay for damages..seriously.
Found the link, but as you can already see from the previous poster whoever did it had no idea where/how to cut. Anyway this has some closeups: http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread...&threadid=1792
What the hell do you mean what can you do? Tell your mother she better pay for it.
Gee go easy on the guy, you can only be so neat when swinging an axe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am
Seriously though, I tent to be a bit of a neatness freak when it comes to my car. Frustrates my mates to no end. I probably would have dropped the tank, even if it meant extra time/effort.
But that wont help you now. If it was mine I would visit some wrecking yards to see if I could find the same undamaged panel and have it cut out a bit larger than the messed up area you have.
Trim it so all your ridges and perforations match up. Find some rubber edgeing to go round the outside. With some carefully selected length screws you'll have what looks like a factory fitted access cover.
-Me-
Yeah-that's a very crude cut! Obviously he was a shade tree mechanic who wasn't prepared to do any sheetmetal work. But anything can be fixed. And it will never be seen once patched up and under the carpet. If the guy was paid for this then he needs to be told to at least help straighten it back up. I would cut the hole out all the way and straighten out the edges-then patch .
because of the fumes and all will a cutting tool be dangerous cuz od sparks ? ? ? If so what can i use to make a nice square to fix it?
A angle grinder with a SMALL cutoff wheel can make a nice cut. You'd have to go very slow and VEEEEERY carefully with the cuts to make sure you dont cut through a fuel line. Since you smell fumes, you're gonna want to clear that up first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeroskater1028
I can't believe that the guy hacked up yo sh*t like that! :ar: :uzi:
I'm thinking that if you couldn't replace your own fuel pump, you might be out of your league on this. I'd take it to a shop if I were you. (no disrespect intended, just based on my observations here).
No disrespect, but, since your rear is all F'ed up, I would just take a hammer to that and flatten it out some. Then put the sheet metal you got over it and seal it. Oh, and i would get my moms money back if she paid the "mechanic" to do the job.
It is just amazing how someone can just walk away from a job leaving it like that. You would think the guy would have thrown a bucket of silicon to fill the gaps and then put the carpet back, so at least no one would notice. I wonder how he would be if he were a plumber. He would probably rip out the sink, fix the pipe and then leave. The pipe would be fixed, but the sink would be on the floor in your living room.
wow thats worse then when i installed sheet metal wheeltubs in for the 1st time...dude used shears on your car and totally didnt care what it looked like........BUT HEY IF YOUR MOM IS FINDING YOU MECHANICS FOR YOUR F-BODY, THEN IM SCARED FOR YOUR CAR.....
yea well iif i knew he was going to open up the back, I could have done it. I though he was going to lower the tank, until i got there and it was all messed up. I was also goin to take it to some shop in inglewood to get that done but it was way too far, and she just said "dont worry i have a friend that can do it." So i was like ok well we'll see what he can do. Now i regret it.
If that guy had any decency he would have talked to you and told you what his plan was. Now you know for the next time to just take care of things yourself. It's not even my car and I'm pissed at that guy!
are there actually fumes-are is it just a left-over smell of gas? There is a difference of course. If there isn't any actual fumes present then it'll be OK to use a cut-off wheel to recut the hole. You could even have Mom buy you a Dremel tool with a cut-off wheel to use (since she has to feel bad about what happened right?) Follow the links given in previous comments and do it like they did-making a patch out of sheetmetal commonly available at the hardware store. Using short sheetmetal screws and a drill, secure panel down usin either silicone sealer or RTV Black silicone to seal it. You'll be fine after all this-nobody will see it .
Take your time and try to flatten out the edges get an aluminum peice of metal seal it and screw it down. I hope he didnt damage the carpet because once you pull it back over nobody will know. I think if people knew what you had to do do drop the tank and do it the "right way" people wouldnt give you such a hard time. I was quoted $720 to do it in my g/f's 86 Iroc. Took me about 1 1/2 and cost me the fuel pump only.
If you know that your car is going to get cut nicley and finished is one thing, but if get a hack job that you didn't know about is another thing.
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here are the after pics. Just finished this up. Put the sheet metal with cocking under and around with sheet metal screws. Took it for a ride and good bye fumes. Now to go get it tuned. Thanx for the help guys
nice fix. Tell Rambo that his knife isn't good for that kinda work:). Lokked like he used the old " i can open a fish can with my knife" trick.
Good job.Now maybe you should address the "fumes" problem? Doesen't that suggest an exhaust leak?