Can my car keep up w/ a Crown Vic or Impala w/ a police package? Always wondered what the specs are on Cop Cars.
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Can my car keep up w/ a Crown Vic or Impala w/ a police package? Always wondered what the specs are on Cop Cars.
Not only would you keep up, you'd walk away from them. They're really heavy with all if their police crap.
I think you will smoke it. i would love to race a cop just to see where they stand.
Pull up next to one at a light sometime and rev at him, i'm sure he will bite:yup:
Funny! After you... :yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
It'd probably be on my list if I had an hour to live :nilly:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeSomething
lol
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...cPoliceInt.asp
brand new ones have 250 horse, i'd be bad if roush made them or SVT
Right now those cars are maybe 235 h.p. stock, and then bare bones, 3600 pounds on the light side, then add the weight of the radio, computer, cage, paperwork, light bars, gadgets, guns, heavy duty suspension etc, ..what kind of question are you asking us? I would say crown vics, with everything that I have mentioned, maybe 16's in a 1/4. I went to the track the other night and a guy was runnin one them morauders, those have '02 320 horse cobra engines in them and 15.5's all night. Top end on the vic.s are usually limited to right around 130...the reason is tire issue, what maybe put on after the goodyears are spent.
Dont care how fast any of your cars are...including mine......we can't out run the two way radio..........:yup:
dude cop cars are no compare with LS1s!!! are u kidding me.. ok they are faster than regular crown vics. but not faster than u.. even without all those cop stuffs in them, you will still walk on them!
There's tons of used cop cars in my town that kids are modding up. This one kid lowered one and put glass packs on it with custom wheels. He tried racing me, but not even close. They are not very fast compared to any real sports car. They also have heavier frames in them for stability to push cars off the road. The last good fast cop cars were the B4C camaro's and Caprices. The Caprice was faster then the Mustangs!
faster than mustangs? well thats no surprise...
Well from personal experiance on a stock SS you will not hook up on launch and then you will pull so hard on them that the cop about 3 miles up the road will be waiting for you on an overpass, then they will both pull you over about 1 mile later. Oh yea thats after you slow down too about 80 and they get the chance too catch up. Lets just say that was an expensive group of fines. The funny part was it was an unmarked car that reved back at me so i was like umm yea lets go. lol
Fun times i guess
J
But beware I saw a Hemi Charger cop car the other day.
However we would still put lengths on them.
idk bought where yall live, maybe its just different here one of my friends is a cop and he got a new cruiser and took it out on the highway last week...just to make sure it would do 155, that car will go sideways in every gear..i was sittin there while he was saying that..."must make car even faster..." he kinda gave me a weird look
Just consider some parts "heavy duty" and there is your police package. Crown Vics (P71 on Fords) are decent, but no where near any LS-engine car. Police package and Taxi-package are pretty much the same thing. In a "legal" 1/4 run, a stock LS1 running on seven cylinders would still leave a Crown Vic (I know several troopers on NCSHP who had their Camaros deadlined and were forced back into Vics. They were not happy). 4000 lbs PLUS about 200-300 more in equipment. The only saving grace against a "stock" Vic is a better rear-gear, but sometimes THAT ain't enough and a stock Vic is actually faster than the police package!!! My '94 T-bird with a lightly modded 4.6 would leave a Vic, but it would not touch an LS1. Not even close. I've never actually driven the newer Impala "marked" cars, but I hear they have reliablity issues. Nobody seems to like the FWD either. I've driven a few unmarked ones, but they don't differ much from a "regular" Impala. Police packages are NOT really higher performance. That's a mystique that still continues on. I thought about putting a "Police Interceptor" badge on my kid's battery-powered Gator at one time!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeSomething
BTW, 130 mph is about top end on one (Vic), but it's not because of a limiter, it just runs out of horsepower around there. I'm not sure about the Impalas but i have seen 125 'ish out of one.The older 5.8L Vics were even slower than the 4.6's!!! I had one of the faster ones and it topped out at 128mph. But you could run it there for miles. It would not overheat, and that was probably the best attribute of the police package.
I wouldn't recommend a street race though. He won't pay you if YOU win, and he will definitely make YOU pay if YOU lose.:flex:
As the other guys have said, Police Interceptor Crown Vics really aren't that fast at all. Fully equipped, they weigh in at about 4200lbs, and they only have 235HP stock. Even with the "low restriction" police package exhaust, they still have less than 250HP.
So basically any car running 14's or better shouldn't have a problem getting away from one, provided they don't have your plate number and you can drive worth a damn :yup:
From personal experience with the 94-96 Caprices:
They were powered by an LT1, putting out 260 hp and about 330 lb/ft of torque. Mine was really quick, handled very very well (flat in the corners.), and built to last.
Lots of heavy duty stuff like brakes, shocks, springs, swaybars, some had posi-rear, thicker gauge steel frame, tighter and quicker steering, green silicone cooling hoses, heavy duty trans cooler, steering fluid cooler, additional oil cooler.......the list goes on. Lookin at about 7 secs 0-60 and the 1/4 in about 14.5 - 15 for a car weighing 4200 lbs.
The newer Crown Vics are NO MATCH for these older Caprices, much less an LS powered car. They're not all that bad, though some cops say they wallow like pigs in the corners. Not so with the big Caprices.
Police cars handle quite well for what they are, and many officers are trained to know the limits of their cruisers, and can probably drive their cars harder and better than we can drive ours. Plus, they only go to 80% of their car's capabilities, just to have that extra bit, or that margin.
Never ever try to outrun a cop. I'm not one by the way.
That being said, an LS car is much much faster, handles better, and is a true sports car. But I know not to mess with one of my old Caprices....she did 144 on the open highway.....and outran Mustang GTs....ahahahahaha!
Oh, and the new Impalas are terrible..... cops drive the beefed up version of the Impala LT...and watch out for those Charger R/Ts....they're everywhere, but you can still take'em.
True but all they have to do is radio ahead and then......well....they are auctioning off your vehicle at a public sale and then what......Quote:
Originally Posted by doodad.
yeah they are driving the srt8 and hemi chargers in the woodland texas. good luck getting to far away from thatQuote:
Originally Posted by cmaross01
i saw one here in Tulsa, i was like that sucks lol
They are slower than you think. I saw a couple at the track where I live. The new charger cop cars. They were runnin 16's. 15's for you sea level boyz.
Didn't they drive Charger's back in the 70's also? Funny how they go back to Mopar. It's gonna be an all out HP war soon. Once the Challenger starts selling like crazy, the Chevelle will arise. I think the only thing I would even think about out running a cop w/ is the new StingRay's coming out.
there is a new sting ray coming out?? or is that i joke and im stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeSomething
I ran a camaro cop car at the track once. I think he ran in the 14.7-8's. this is at Bandimere (5280ish elevation). you would easily walk from a caprice. The new charge cop cars have leather in the back, rather than the hard plastic seat. Little off topic, but interesting.
It's a Z06 w/ a supercharger slapped on. Like you don't already have enough HP w/ the NA Z06 right? LoL! If I bought one I'd throw some slicks on at the dealership, flatbed it to the track, and race it w/ the temp tags all on the same day!Quote:
Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am
where can i look this up at?? link?? i couldnt find anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeSomething
Cops have Ls1 Camaros in Pontiac Michigan.
I know they have fun with those.. you know how cops are since the cars arent theirs they do them how they want
Meaning wasting tons of gas, letting them idle constantly, and generally beating the hell out of them. Slow down for a speed bump or turn off the car while in Dunkin Donuts?? Why do that, its not their fuel or maintenance bill, its the taxpayers :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fade2Black
here in florida, when the 2005 mustangs came out, the seminole county police department bought three silver ones. limo tint unmarked. pulling all kinds of people over for trying to race them on I-4. was on the news.
I would never pull over for an umarked, silver Mustang GT with tints. The law here in NJ actually doesn't require you to, you're supposed to go to the nearest "well lit populated areas of police station" and then pull over.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrr23
You know what that means?? Bird out the window and drop the hammer...:haha:
so, in NJ, you can wait until you find a well lit police station in a populated area before you have to pull over??Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesman
don't want to try that here in florida. here's the wonder 316.191 statute. not to mention fleeing and evading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesman
cop cars are not that quick. And the radio doesnt help that much. All you gotta do is loose them b4 they get your plates or back-up arives. Cops are easy to out run. (but if they get your plates... theyll be waiting for you in your driveway) Then you dont have to worry about driving for a long time.
Also a friend of mine is a constable. Constables have to provide thier own vehicle. He has a wicked Tahoe. Lowered w/ black AR wheels, 3" exhaust, full eibach suspension (he can FLY around corners), and a couple of bolt-ons. By far the fastest Tahoe Ive ever seen. Since the car is his he can do what ever he wants to it. Before he added all the heavy police equiptment (wich he says slows him down a lot) He ran 14's.
are you serious??:kick:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeSomething
I'll let you in on a little secret:
The biggest thing going for cops in chases is the stupidity/inexperience/ego of the other driver. Being patient and waiting for a mistake is what will get them caught most of the time. Unfortunately, that usually means someone gets hurt.
Car performance is NOT usually in the favor of the law. Just a plain fact.
Only for unmarked vehicles. If its a marked Crown Vic with a light bar, you have to pull over under all circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrr23
Sounds like they are Nazis in florida...according to those laws, I could drive next to my buddy and get arrested for street racing based on the cops "discression" :rolleyes:Quote:
don't want to try that here in florida. here's the wonder 316.191 statute. not to mention fleeing and evading.
:haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Mine too. After I finish with one I will go find another!
Think about it guys, most of us have cars that will just plain smoke all cop cars, except the trooper Z28's. They have a chance to keep you in sight at least. Crown Vic's, not a chance in hell. Pure smokage.
The reason why cops have the advantage though, is b/c they are BEHIND you. So, all the "unknowns" will be encountered by the lead car first. That is why you always see the lead car getting f*cked up. And what happens, the cop has precious TIME to hit his brakes before dangerous stuff comes up.
Get him on a deserted country road, or out in the Nevada desert or some crap, and he will NEVER see you again. Take your time going around curves, not TOO fast, but juuusst right, and f*cking floor it on straightaways, and make sure you got good brakes. Brakes that will take a LOT of punishment without fade. He will CATCH HELL trying to stay close. Matter of fact, he will prolly kill himself cause Crown Vic's handle like sh*t.
Then you better hope he didn't get your plates, cause they could hit you up with 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter or some unfair sh*t like that.
usually if there is an unmarked policde theres normally a marked one up ahead a little bit to pull over the dumba$$ that dont pull over
rostem ur a fucking idiot
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Originally Posted by larryndog
Let me guess...you are a cop :rolleyes:
Just admit it - traffic cops are useless, they just give tickets to generate revenue. Anyone with a brain can see that. Theres no way they are keeping anyone safer by pulling someone over for doing 27MPH in a 25MPH (happened in my town) or giving someone a ticket for not having a front plate. Its just plain ridiculous.
Cops are there for a reason. They'd be the first person you called if you had your car stolen/broken into or just about anything else that could happen bad......yes tickets generate revenue but believe me.....they aren't just out there writing tickets...besides....if we dont speed we dont have anything to worry about right........Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesman
I come from a line of 5-0. I wont lie. Some of them are little bitches. (pardon my french) 27 in a 25!? Damn that would get cancelled in court so fast. But I have respect for them all. Traffic cops arenot useless. Your'e just on the criminal side. And so am I sometimes. I wanted to be a cop along with the rest of my family till I realized I HATE cops. But I have RESPECT for them. So should you.
The last Vic that I raced at the Police sponsored drags in Portland, Oregon was not all that fast. THe best I could get that car to do with power-braking and everything I could thing of was a 15.9 and I thought I was going to burn the tranny up. The newer Vics are a bit better, maybe .1 and 1mph, but not much.
Where my Vic shines is in the abuse it will take. I can run it up a curb at full speed, slam it into a wall, drive it off a cliff, and it just seems to continue to run.
The fastest I have ever had my Vic while in pursuit was a certified speedometer indicated 137mph. The limiters are set for 136mph. The first cop car I ever had was the LT1 Caprice. I had one of those in a pursuit in Portland on the 5 freeway witht he digital speedo flashing 155mph. WAY better car IMHO.
Nice, you speak to your mother with that mouth?Quote:
Originally Posted by larryndog
Nice MISS-spelling job, who's the idiot?
It must be nice to sit behind a computer and insult someone without consequences, just know that if I was beside you I would ram your head into that monitor and break all your teeth out with that keyboard. :growl:
Do you know why there are traffic cops? Because the community demands it. Period. When the vocal people in the community continue to complain about traffic, the police are forced to do something generally because when people complain, they complain to the mayors office, congressmen, and senators. That causes the need for traffic cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesman
The front plate issue is one of simple compliance. Your state requires a front plate. It is not that hard to comply. This is the same as a seatbelt law, window tint law, etc. They are plain, black and white rules. I rarely enforce that law unless there is a directive from my watch commander.
ok, this went south. we're done.