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i got my muffler installed on Monday ad I have to say im a lil disappointed. it does sound better but sounds like a lot of stock ss and trans am's on the internet. Found a smoking deal on a lm2 system. how much louder than my magnaflow muffler would it be. the muffler sounds good just a lil quiet for me.
If you have the stock manifolds on the car, the LM2 system sounds great and will be louder than the Magnaflow system, but not overwhelming. If you have headers installed in place of the stock manifolds, the LM2 system will be pretty loud and may generate some rasp at certain RPM levels.
From your description it sounds as though you simpy installed a muffler in place of the old one and left the original piping??
If so, you are still using your 2.75" I-pipe and 2 1/4" tailpipes, which will affect the sound a bit, taming it down some.
You'll also have a hard time getting much sound out of any muffler if you still run cats and stock manifolds.
The Magnaflow will get a little louder over time -- both Zach and I noticed that on our cars. It is still the best sounding muffler out there imo.
I run long tubes, into a mufflex 4 inch ypipe and a magnaflow quad tip catback. I got rid of the cats and it sounds great. Not obnoxious at idle, but sounds fantastic when you get on it. It's a little louder and deeper then stock at idle.
I have long tubes and a Kooks catted Y-pipe. When I need to be obnoxious, I just open the cutout. :)
time for long tubes and a new Y pipe...that'll wake her up!
Magnaflow is by far my fav,not much louder than stock,really needs long tubes and ory!
I just noticed my Magnaflow system has broken again so im looking at another system. Going true dual just deciding wether I want to fork over the money for a full kooks setup or do something custom. Plus I never close my cutout since the magnaflow is too quiet.
Good observation - something the OP needs to answer if he ever comes back to this thread :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebirdjones
What broke?Quote:
Originally Posted by raynor139
3 words that will wake that exhaust up. Head Er S
First time the actual muffler split. This time the weld on the hanger bracket snapped. Easy fix but its more the irritation of something I hear is such high quality has broken twice.
We run Magnaflow stuff on 3 of our vehicles and have never had an issue. Zapper recently had the case open up on his truck exhaust and had to replace that, but that may have been under warranty.
Do Kooks TDs if you can afford it. I have them and their headers but not installed yet and I have to say the quality is top notch compared to others I have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by raynor139
I have a header setup already and spending 2500 just to convert to true duals isnt exactly sitting well with me. Especially with the car needing new tires and a clutch in the next 6-12 months.
When mine did it got replaced under warranty. Now this less then a year later. Its great that they have the warranty but two problems in a yr plus when it broke the hot tips rested against the bumper warping it some and the tips are going to have to be polished. Ive got a 6 litreater diffuser to put on that will cover the damage to the bumper. But its that final straw that just makes me want to pull it and do something new. Or as my gf says its my excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by pajeff02
$2500? I got mine for $1500 (at the WS6TORE) but I have all the other suspension stuff needed minus the BMR DSL required but it will come under $2000 total. However, if there are other things your car needs I would get those first.Quote:
Originally Posted by raynor139
Either way, it's still a lot of money lol.
Worth it though or at least to me it is since I will never need a different exhaust system no matter my build, whether it is the 396 I am building or like I want to eventually have, a supercharged 454.Quote:
Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS
Can the kooks true duals hook up to tsp headers? Ive heard so many conflicting statements on what they will connect to with no issues. The 2500 came from if I had to do a full kooks system headers back. And 1500 plus miscellaneous stuff still adds up fast when I can start with the a basic system and have it fully customized for less then a grand.
I don't know if it can, what type of connection do TSP headers have at the collector? Is it a slip fit or a flange style? If it is slip fit it is likely they will fit since that is what Kooks are.Quote:
Originally Posted by raynor139
since where talking exhaust my friend had taken off his cats and also did a y pipe the car already had flow masters on it now with the extra exhaust flow it blew out something in the mufflers making it sound very raspey sound.people are telling him its a common problem.idk
Sounds like the baffles in the muffler broke. Also taking the cats off of certain systems will make it sound much more raspy which is another possibility as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jodmari
Flowmaster mufflers utilize a series of internal baffles. Magnaflow mufflers have a perforated pipe core and a glass mat packing.
My WS6 came with a Magnaflow when I bought it. I actually thought it was the stock muffler until I got it on a lift and examined it closer. Don't get me wrong, it did sound good for what it was, but it was just extremely to quite for my taste.Quote:
Originally Posted by jefff82
I eventually ended up ditching it and running a straight pipe set-up(basically a LM system, but with no resonater at all, and a piece of pipe where the muffler originally was)in its place, while still retaining dual exit outlets with my original dual/dual tips. I love it!
The sound difference is night and day. It's noticeably louder both at idle and of course WOT, even with stock manifolds and my stock y with cats.
Ha, the only way you get away with that is the fact that you still have your stock manifolds and stock Y with converters in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badass WS6
If you would have went the other direction and installed headers and off road Y and left the magnaflow in place, you may have been very pleased with the sound, and pick up some HP to boot.
If you removed the cats now, you'd be looking for a muffler to put back on that thing pretty quick :lol: Or the noise police would be following you around.
I have a Magnaflow catback on my Formula, and I get wood every time I start it up.
Yes, it's not loud at idle, but when it sounds amazing when you get on it IMO.
It's exactly what I wanted in terms of sound. It sounds mean when I want it to, but I can be quiet when rolling by cops and I can have a conversation in the car while doing 80 on the highway.
I've gotten a lot of compliments on it too.
Just add a cutout to it for when you want to be obnoxious.
Oh, and I bought mine used (with e-cutout installed) so I can't speak to it getting louder over time.