black smoke dodge

like the title states! i was minding my own business when this white dodge diesel came up beside me. paceing me and gunning it he filled up my car with yuky black diesel smoke. we were on a service rd doing 45 and i slid it into 2nd at 4500rpm's. when this doosche bag gunned it going to fill my car up again i floored it and liked to have hit him with the side of my car as i was spinning the whole time in 2nd all the way to 6900 rpm. i put 2 lengths on him spinning. sorry boost lag diesels. and idiot rednecks... the funny thing about his truck was he had guages on his dash and had banks in big letters. and the look was priceless when he came flying by me after i had let off. i wasted my gas again.

i get that all the time here in texas....best thing to do is just let them look stupid...if they start clouding you up, do just as you did and leave em behind....i like the ones who have their windows down...they get an ear full when i lay off into the pedal.

It's not just Texas. We have A hloes in New Jersey too. I love to watch them get pulled over by the State Troopers, we have smog rules in NJ.

Nice kill, Kerry! I think those black smokin' things are ridiculous. So what if it makes 1,000 ft lbs, it's still a truck that can't stop quick or even think about going around a corner.

I get that to from these black smoke blowing peices of shit, lol wow! Look at me I can blow black smoke, pulling trailers an blowing smoke is about all they are good for anyway. Makes me wanna pull out my 45 an blow their front tire out when they do that shit.:mad:

We get that here in farm country too. I kinda expect the worst whenever I see a big jacked up truck, so I avoid them the best I can. My wife laughs at them & calls them "Little wiener mobiles".....
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Originally Posted by Too Fast

Nice kill, Kerry! I think those black smokin' things are ridiculous. So what if it makes 1,000 ft lbs, it's still a truck that can't stop quick or even think about going around a corner.

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Yea cause that is what they are meant to do but further research will show the new diesels go from 60-0 in as good as 130ft. 2000 trans am 122ft a full 8 feet shorter not even one car length hell only half the length of a midsize car.

While I agree smoker diesels are stupid and the peopel who drive them a generally stupid they have their uses.

I like the power these diesels can make, and wouldn't mind owning one myself for towing purposes. I don't mind the smoke they make, just comes with the territory. What I don't like are the assholes that do it on purpose when next to a car, that's just being a dick in my opinion.

Couple years ago we were sitting at a light. I was in the chevelle and following my neighbor in his 67 stang. Diesel pulls up next to him in the other lane and proceded to foot brake the diesel while sitting still and fill the inside of the stang with black smoke right through the passenger window where his 70 year old wife was sitting. Light turned green and he took off. I was ready to jump out and yank his ass out of the truck and it wasn't even me who go blasted.

Just total assholes if you ask me. Stupid kids, I wouldn't expect any better.

4 of them leaving a classic car cruise just this past Saturday, driving like idiots and all of them blowing so much smoke it impared others vision. They merged on the highway and were dodging in and out of traffic smoking so much they left a trail you could see for a mile, and I eventually lost sight of them. About 10 miles up the road one of them was pulled over by Maricopa's finest :lol:

The sound of a diesel at idle reminds me of a can of nuts and bolts rolling down stairs.. :suicide:

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The sound of a diesel at idle reminds me of a can of nuts and bolts rolling down stairs.. :suicide:

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I agree the older ones were horrible. I think the manufactures have done a pretty good job quieting them down on some of the newer ones though so long as it hasn't been tinkered with. My neighbors 03 duramax is pretty darn quiet considering. I'm still not a huge fan of the odd noises they make though. Then you have people putting exhaust on them and it's just obnoxious. Don't think I could drive one everyday like that. There are some ridiculously loud diesels running around here, coming from me that says alot considering I have my share of fairly loud V8 cars here.

well my 04 gto is by far a very loud car. i have a custom built exhaust. i work with a guy that has a dodge diesel that he put nearly 5000$ in. 3000$ race head with race injectors. ported intake, and custom built header and exhaust. after all that it, it only ran mid 13's.

I'm not too familiar with the Dodge Cummins other than the fact they've been around forever. But the general consensus around the diesel guru's is that the Duramax from GM is the one to have, as they seem to make the most power.

13's in a truck that weighs 6,000 lbs. is moving no matter how you look at it. But I've seen those things run deep into the 11's as well so they are nothing to sneeze at when hopped up. You just never know what you're up against, and it wouldn't be surprising to see one whoop a car.

I have a couple of buddies running the D-max and they are into the low 13's high 12's.
Pretty damn' good for a lead sled extended cab.
I have an old video of one of them making 13 second runs because the other broke out that day.lol
He ran those numbers in 4-hi and lowered pressure AT's. lmao! He tunes his D-max to not smoke. D-max FTW! XD

I'll agree that the smoke is obnoxious, but the newer models have filters to slow down on that. Not saying people wont take that stuff out but it's definitely more of a hassle. My father has a late 07 Duramax and if anyone here has ever launched one, they get up and go. Launching in 4 high will bark all four tires and leave almost any car behind, its chipped and makes no smoke.

I had one of these trucks beat me before when I was stock. Actually, he didn't beat me, he whooped my ass.

^^^Damn gotta hate that when a big ole truck moves faster than a sport car.

Dammit. Is it sports or sport car?
^^^This all started for me in another thread, car definitions.

pony car...sports cars have 2 seats....at least thats what i always heard..

Guys the diesels that smoke a lot usually are setup to make that extra smoke. Do diesels smoke stock.. yes but it is minimal atleast in 1990 and newer. The diesels that pour smoke for miles are setup to do that either through a smoker or through the tune in the new models. There is a setting on most diesel piggyback tuners that tells the fuel system to dump fuel and create extra smoke for no purpose other than creating more smoke. That is why you will see diesels that are very close to stock most likely just an exhaust and tune who are dumping black clouds at 1/3 throttle..... because their owners want them to.

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Guys the diesels that smoke a lot usually are setup to make that extra smoke. Do diesels smoke stock.. yes but it is minimal atleast in 1990 and newer. The diesels that pour smoke for miles are setup to do that either through a smoker or through the tune in the new models. There is a setting on most diesel piggyback tuners that tells the fuel system to dump fuel and create extra smoke for no purpose other than creating more smoke. That is why you will see diesels that are very close to stock most likely just an exhaust and tune who are dumping black clouds at 1/3 throttle..... because their owners want them to.

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and thats what the op's point is....dickshits pouring smoke into people's faces...

Silly if you ask me. Used to be that smoke coming from an engine meant it was time for a rebuild (diesels were still in their infancy for the general public) and even somewhat embarassing to drive in that condition, now smoke has become the cool thing to do among the diesel crowd. Just seems odd to me.

I have one here that smokes pretty heavy (needs guides) so I refrain from even driving it until I get the time to rebuild the engine. Usually get it out late at night when I'm not seen and make a run to the gas station and back :lol:

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and thats what the op's point is....dickshits pouring smoke into people's faces...

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I agree and I hate that shit. I have had people try to blow smoke on my in the T/A, the vette and my old supra all with the tops off.

they also like to get up next to me and get high rpm with their culvert pipe exhaust.....i pray they have their windows down...

what year is your diesel that is smoking. i was a diesel fuel injection mechanic for close to 15 yrs myself. and yes it is all in the tune they blow black smoke. and yes they can be fast as hell. it is that 90% of them are not. they just think they are.

I love the way diesels sound. I dd a 2003 Jetta TDI, it rarely smokes.. and it can't beat many cars in a race.. I did beat a prius once..

my son has a bug with that engine. dang thng got nearly 50 on the hiway. and it ran pretty good.

plenty of these guys out there.....also notice the lack of smoke after the initial launch. Properly tuned diesel and set up for power and not show. Mine smokes a little under wot but not too bad. At some point though I will be putting the dsp5 switch in it so I can run 5 different tunes because more than once I wish I had a smoke tune. :D Mainly for people that tailgate or loud ass Harleys that ride right beside me.
11 second duramax, treating a chevelle like it has no feelings - YouTube

My Seat Leon have a turbo problems now
Black smoke is coming from exhaust and extra sound I thing from turbo
Last time I lost half oil from the engine
Im looking for turbo specialist in Richmond or Woking
Thanks

Wow, been so long since I posted in this thread I didn't even have a diesel then, and now have one, lol. Hey Orion, ever make a decision about buying another?

On the smoke deal, I have 5 custom tunes by Rob at ATP, none of them are smoke tunes. However they will blow smoke on the initial hit of the throttle, especially the race tune, but once spooled up and moving it runs pretty clean. According to Rob the race tune is good for low 14's and mid 90's at the track while still being safe for the stock trans. That's moving pretty good considering my truck scaled at exactly 7,000 lbs. empty. I have thought about participating at the diesel drags they have a couple times a year just for giggles and see what it actually does do.

keeping my truck....put exhaust and rims/tires on it. Went with 4" dual exit straight pipe and toyo mt's again on american outlaw buckshot wheels. Just too many issues with the newer diesels right now. Not paying $50k for a truc and then spend time either sitting in a dealership or wrenching on it. I'll wait and let them get this emission horse shit under control. Even then GM went with that POS cp4.2 pump. You know it's a POS when people are tearing into a new truck to install older cp3's before the 4 eats itself.

After hearing these horror stories on the new ones I agree, I think you made the right decision.

4 inch dual straight pipes??? HOLY MOLY :lol: So what does that sound like?? HAHA

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After hearing these horror stories on the new ones I agree, I think you made the right decision.

4 inch dual straight pipes??? HOLY MOLY :lol: So what does that sound like?? HAHA

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it's not really that loud......throatier than the single 4" and a tad bit more drone but still about like a gas burner with duals on it. It splits right before the axle. It was a major pain in the ass to do by myself. Just a ton of pipe to wrangle under there. Happy with it in the end and I went stainless this time so hopefully the last time I have to do it on this truck.....although.....I was eyeballing a stainless 3" downpipe to throw on there.

While we're on the truck subject.....take your screws out that hold your rear lights in place before they get too far gone and either replace them with new #8x3/4" screws or anti-sieze the shit out of those. Had a brake light go out this week and those screws were not coming out. I'd like to find the guy that said "just put a phillips head screw in it" and punch him in the mouth. Ended up having to drill them out and in that process managed to brake the plastic at the top of the light that the speed nut clips onto. Cut some plastic and super glued a piece in there and drilled it for the screw and bought new speed nuts. Went ahead and pulled the screws out of the other side and replaced them while I was at it and anti-siezed them.

Did you point the exhaust out both side so you can get either lane? :lol:

10-4 on the screws. I'll do that this weekend. Funny I just had one out about 3 weeks ago for a burnt bulb. I guess I got lucky it came right off.

the exhaust exits at the corner of the bumper on either side so I have to play the angle but I can still get both lanes. :D I'll snap some pics of it when I get a chance. Wife drove it last week and I heard her take off (funny how heavy her damn foot is when she's in my vehicles) and it sounds pretty bad ass. Definitely a different sound from just the single 4".

That's hilarious :lol:

I think that's a "woman" thing in general. Back in high school I had a 75 cutlass. Pretty slow car but I had true duals on it with 12" glass packs. You could hear that thing from one side of town to the other. My mom took it to the store one time and after she pulled out of the driveway I stepped outside to listen. She dogged my damn car all the way to the store and back. :lol: I could hear those glass packs popping blocks away. When she got home I was giving her hell about it....she denied it with every fiber of her being. :D

Hahaha, my mom was quite a lead foot herself. She used to burn rubber and race people all time in the 69 GTO my father bought new back then, the same one he still has. Boy do I have crazy stories about that, she had us on 2 wheels once, and not the back ones, lol. I thought we were going to die but the whole time she's yelling "I got it I got it" Wholy crap!!!! Thankfully she doesn't drive anymore, lol.

My wife is a little more tame but she has told me a couple stories when she was driving the newer Camaro daily, and lately a couple stories with the truck. For the last 6 months she's been daily driving my 79 1 ton truck, right when I installed a brand new 454 in it with some tweaks, it runs decently for an old truck. She's the one that has put all the break in miles on it, lol. She's already told me about how she gave a couple of mustangs a hard time that had to speed up and merge, lol. For the last month she's been driving the duramax. She claims it's because diesel is only $1.50 a gallon but I tend to think it's because I left it in the hot street tune and she's flogging it :lol:

I'm still working on the 69Z, motor is in the machine shop and I just tore all the front suspension apart. I can't wait to have that finished so I can get her out of my truck, lol. She's going to daily drive the Z, can't wait to hear what kind of trouble she'll get in with that. I'm setting it up to be a Pure Stock runner with tricks. I could send you a ton of pics but photobucket is such a pain in the ass. I'll PM you a couple of pics of what I've been into though.

what about the GT? Still got it? $1.50 for diesel? Wish it was like that out here.....it had recently been as low as $1.74 but it's eased it's way up to $2.04 now. Hoping it goes back down in time for our vacations this year. :D Hell....I'd be happy with $2 a gallon. I used 140 gallons last year on our trip to VA Beach and that was around $1 to $1.50 cheaper a gallon than the year before. It's like having an extra $200 to spend on vacation. If it stays at $2 that'll be about $1 cheaper than last year. Adds up.

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what about the GT? Still got it? $1.50 for diesel? Wish it was like that out here.....it had recently been as low as $1.74 but it's eased it's way up to $2.04 now. Hoping it goes back down in time for our vacations this year. :D Hell....I'd be happy with $2 a gallon. I used 140 gallons last year on our trip to VA Beach and that was around $1 to $1.50 cheaper a gallon than the year before. It's like having an extra $200 to spend on vacation. If it stays at $2 that'll be about $1 cheaper than last year. Adds up.

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Yup still got it. Restored it and now my son drives it daily to school. It's been a fantastic little car. I'm going to daily drive the nomad when I need to go somewhere, and my wife will be driving the Z daily. We've kind of diverted to driving classics anymore. The duramax is the newest thing we have and it will lead a life stashed in the garage unless it's needed.

Right now it's needed until the Z is ready, lol, and the cheap diesel sure is a nice bonus. I'm like you, I'm hoping it stays cheap at least through summer because I'm planning one more trip to Ohio with it pulling the enclosed trailer. Last trip diesel averaged $4 a gallon across country and I spent just over $1200 in fuel alone. Can you imagine the savings if fuel is just $2 a gallon? Makes me anxious to get the trip started before prices go up :lol:
Last trip pulling the 28 foot enclosed got me 11 mpg. I realized something just recently though, I didn't pump up the tires as per the manual recommends when towing. I left them around 60psi on both the truck and trailer (DUH!!). These tires are recommended 80psi cold when towing on both truck and trailer. So I experimented a few weeks ago and pumped the truck up to 68 front and 65 rear and MPG jumped 2 full numbers just while driving around empty. I'm going to try 70 on both truck and trailer while towing on this trip, maybe adds a little more stability too and see if it will improve on that 11mpg reading I got on the last trip.

I run mine at 70 when towing and 50 when not. It rides like shit around town jacked up to 70....you feel every crack and bridge expansion joint. Technically you could go all the way to 80 and that's actually what is recommended. I just like to keep it a little below that.

Yup 80 is recommended but like you, I want to keep it under that first and see how it goes. I thought 70 sounded like a good number to start for towing and see since 68/65 made such a bump in MPG for me.
It rides a bit rougher but nothing I'm not used to. One thing I did notice when towing the enclosed with only 60 in the tires, when I maneuver that thing around in parking lots it really folds the tires over while turning when I have that thing loaded. More air pressure that I should have been running to begin with should cure that.